Pandemic 2020
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PJ Diaz
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I found some recent numbers (from NJ) which illustrate exactly what I've been saying here:
COVID-19 breakthrough cases climb in NJ | NJ Spotlight News
As the number of breakthrough cases climb, Murphy administration urges vaccinated residents to mask up.
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"Over the past two weeks, breakthrough infections and deaths accounted for a much larger portion of new cases and deaths than they did in the 23 weeks after the first New Jersey residents were fully protected by vaccination on Jan. 19. Breakthrough cases and deaths made up less than 1% of all new infections and deaths between Jan. 19 and June 28. But cases in vaccinated people accounted for about 17% of more than 3,300 new cases and 24% of 71 deaths occurring between June 29 and July 12, the analysis found."
PJ Diaz
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Meanwhile in Los Angeles, over 25% of new covid cases are vaxxed individuals.
DIY-HP-LED
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WaPo: CDC Document Warns Delta Variant Spreads Like Chickenpox
The Washington Post is reporting on the details of an internal CDC document it obtained that warns the Covid Delta variant spreads as easily as chickenpox and causes more several illness than previous variants. We discuss that and more with Dr. Vin Gupta, Shannon Pettypiece, and Julie Pace.
The Washington Post is reporting on the details of an internal CDC document it obtained that warns the Covid Delta variant spreads as easily as chickenpox and causes more several illness than previous variants. We discuss that and more with Dr. Vin Gupta, Shannon Pettypiece, and Julie Pace.
doublejj
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they never told me the vaccine gave me immunity.....just a better chance of survival and less chance of spreading it....win/win in my book
DIY-HP-LED
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The Latest: US health officials to release new COVID-19 data
U.S. health officials are expected to release new data about the spread of COVID-19 on Friday that led to their decision to recommend that vaccinated people wear masks in some situations, a reversal of previous guidance.
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The Latest: US health officials to release new COVID-19 data
NEW YORK -- U.S. health officials are expected to release new data about the spread of COVID-19 on Friday that led to their decision to recommend that vaccinated people wear masks in some situations, a reversal of previous guidance.
The report, to be released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, comes from a recent investigation of a coronavirus outbreak in Provincetown, Massachusetts, according to a federal official who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to disclose the plan.
Earlier this week, the CDC changed its masking guidelines, recommending that even vaccinated people return to wearing masks indoors in parts of the U.S. where the delta variant of the coronavirus is fueling surges in new cases.
Citing new – but unreleased -- information about the variant’s ability to spread among vaccinated people, the CDC also recommended indoor masks for all teachers, staff, students and visitors at schools nationwide, regardless of vaccination status.
PJ Diaz
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No surprise here.The Latest: US health officials to release new COVID-19 data
U.S. health officials are expected to release new data about the spread of COVID-19 on Friday that led to their decision to recommend that vaccinated people wear masks in some situations, a reversal of previous guidance.
The Latest: US health officials to release new COVID-19 data
NEW YORK -- U.S. health officials are expected to release new data about the spread of COVID-19 on Friday that led to their decision to recommend that vaccinated people wear masks in some situations, a reversal of previous guidance.
The report, to be released by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, comes from a recent investigation of a coronavirus outbreak in Provincetown, Massachusetts, according to a federal official who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to disclose the plan.
Earlier this week, the CDC changed its masking guidelines, recommending that even vaccinated people return to wearing masks indoors in parts of the U.S. where the delta variant of the coronavirus is fueling surges in new cases.
Citing new – but unreleased -- information about the variant’s ability to spread among vaccinated people, the CDC also recommended indoor masks for all teachers, staff, students and visitors at schools nationwide, regardless of vaccination status.
PJ Diaz
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Unfortunately there are a lot of vaxxed folks out there who don't think they can spread it or get it. As soon as they got the jab the masks came off and parties were thrown.
doublejj
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i agree.....I'll be wearing a mask as long as it takes.
DIY-HP-LED
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Behind the Masks, a Mystery: How Often Do the Vaccinated Spread the Virus? (Published 2021)
The C.D.C.’s new masking advice was based in part on data showing that the virus can thrive in the airways of vaccinated people. The findings are expected on Friday.
Behind the Masks, a Mystery: How Often Do the Vaccinated Spread the Virus?
The C.D.C.’s new masking advice was based in part on data showing that the virus can thrive in the airways of vaccinated people. The findings are expected on Friday.
The recommendation that vaccinated people in some parts of the country dust off their masks was based largely on one troublesome finding, according to Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
New research showed that vaccinated people infected with the Delta variant carry tremendous amounts of the virus in the nose and throat, she said in an email responding to questions from The New York Times.
The finding contradicts what scientists had observed in vaccinated people infected with previous versions of the virus, who mostly seemed incapable of infecting others.
That conclusion dealt Americans a heavy blow: People with so-called breakthrough infections — cases that occur despite full vaccination — of the Delta variant may be just as contagious as unvaccinated people, even if they have no symptoms.
That means fully immunized people with young children, aging parents, or friends and family with weak immune systems will need to renew vigilance, particularly in high-transmission communities. Vaccinated Americans may need to wear masks not just to protect themselves, but everyone in their orbit.
There are 67,000 new cases per day on average in the United States, as of Thursday. If vaccinated people are transmitting the Delta variant, they may be contributing to the increases — although probably to a far lesser degree than the unvaccinated.
The C.D.C. has not yet published its data, frustrating experts who want to understand the basis for the change of heart on masks. Four scientists familiar with the research said it was compelling and justified the C.D.C.’s advice that the vaccinated wear masks again in public indoor spaces.
The research was conducted by people outside the C.D.C., the scientists said, and the agency is working quickly to analyze and publish the results. The agency expects to publish the research on Friday, one official said.
Some of the research may be related in part to an outbreak in Provincetown, Mass., where Fourth of July festivities have led to 882 cases as of Thursday. Nearly three-quarters of those people were fully vaccinated.
The agency also has tracked data from the Covid-19 Sports and Society Workgroup, a coalition of professional sports leagues that is testing more than 10,000 people at least daily and sequencing all infections.
It’s still unclear how common breakthrough infections are and how long the virus persists in the body in those cases. Breakthroughs are rare, and unvaccinated people account for the bulk of virus transmission, Dr. Walensky said.
Regardless, the data that the C.D.C. is reviewing suggest that even fully immunized people can be unwilling vectors for the virus. “We believe at individual level they might, which is why we updated our recommendation,” Dr. Walensky said in her email to The Times.
The conclusion also suggests that vaccinated people who are exposed to the virus should get tested, even if they feel fine. (In Britain, vaccinated people who are contacts of a known case are required to isolate for 10 days.)
The new data do not mean that the vaccines are ineffective. The vaccines still powerfully prevent severe illness and death, as they were meant to, and people with breakthrough infections very rarely end up in a hospital.
About 97 percent of people hospitalized with Covid-19 are unvaccinated, according to data from the C.D.C. But scientists warned even last year that the vaccines might not completely prevent infection or transmission. (Immunity from natural infection may offer even less protection.)
Budzbuddha
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Florida might as well be a leper colony.
Plutonium
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Trump did the best thing he could have. He recommended hydroxychloroquine, the moment he did, doctors at the hospital I work at, immediately started using it and saving peoples lives! Hydroxychloroquine, Ivermectin, Doxycycline, Vitamin D and Zinc have all become standard operating procedure to treat SARS-CoV-2, in red states. Red States are beating Covid-19 and have been for months. Blue states continue to suffer with Covid-19, mask mandates, small business bankruptcy and death! The numbers the AP, NIH, CDC are flaunting are all bullshit, to convince the sheep to take a poison.
Porky1982
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doublejj
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Urophagia
Plutonium
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Seriously doubt drinking your own piss would cure you of Covid, but more power to you. Let us know how it works out for you baby!
doublejj
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Sir Napsalot
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Who are these "sheep" you speak of?
Budzbuddha
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injinji
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We're number 1! We're number 1!
Like we used to say in the Navy. What the Fuck? Over.
Budzbuddha
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Florida seems to have a voodoo curse on it already …
Qtard Governor , Resident Orange Dumbfuck …
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