DWC 1 TANK IDEA. Input requested

Throttlebuzz

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So, I just cleaned out my veg tent that has been sitting a while due to a five o scare. i restarted in flower tent first and got some clones ready to go as they do flower. Anyway, the smell was fucking insane. I had to cut a pipe and the inside was fucking awful. So, I have decided to write about an idea I have been thinking about. I am constantly worried about the roots clogging my pipes. I have a waterfall setup. I started looking around and for brewing beer there are very large fine mesh bags. i am thinking about attaching said bag to the net pot so roots grow inside the bag. i feel this will also help with any kind of movement that arises for flushing and vacuuming from time to time. well heres my idea on top of that. I am going to just make one big res in the tent. basically like a baby pool but square. figure i will use plywood and then a thick tarp draped in it. i will have a pump to that is used to pump water up and through a misting system blowing back down to cool the water as i have no chiller for this tent. i am thinking also anothr pump to just aerate the water and circulate it. I am going to buy the pink foam board to insulate the entire setup. I figure that with the extra water you can go 2 weeks before flush. Also, for anybody starting out the amount saved on bulkheads and pipes is huge. from what i gather the only reason to not grow multiple plants in one tanks is because the roots will grow together and they will choke each other out. the bag is the key as it will keep roots separate. I might try to waterproof the shit but for now i am leaning towards a liner like a pool. but using a tarp. i think it is the way to go instead of plumbing all this shit. what a hassle and the bulkhead cost is absurd. anyway let me know what ya think. if this is a fuckup waiting to happen let me know why.

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Throttlebuzz

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rkymtnman said:
i always wondered if you could do the same thing with pantyhose. probably way cheaper??
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I would think panty hose might restrict growth a little bit but maybe not. These brewer bags are 26 by 22 in so they are as big as the 28gal tubs I'm using in flower tent. I hate when i take them out of buckets to do maintenance and roots are exposed. Inside this bag you wouldn't have to worry about it as much and you wouldn't have to worry about them clogging up the plumbing. I don't think that it would retain anything negative that would impact the plants at all. Like in a root rot kinda way. I suppose in a way the idea leans towards aquaponics but only as far as setup goes.
 

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Throttlebuzz said:
I would think panty hose might restrict growth a little bit but maybe not. These brewer bags are 26 by 22 in so they are as big as the 28gal tubs I'm using in flower tent. I hate when i take them out of buckets to do maintenance and roots are exposed. Inside this bag you wouldn't have to worry about it as much and you wouldn't have to worry about them clogging up the plumbing. I don't think that it would retain anything negative that would impact the plants at all. Like in a root rot kinda way. I suppose in a way the idea leans towards aquaponics but only as far as setup goes.
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they also make aquarium pump bags too in a whole range of sizes. compare them to the brewing ones for prices.
 
redi jedi

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Throttlebuzz said:
So, I just cleaned out my veg tent that has been sitting a while due to a five o scare. i restarted in flower tent first and got some clones ready to go as they do flower. Anyway, the smell was fucking insane. I had to cut a pipe and the inside was fucking awful. So, I have decided to write about an idea I have been thinking about. I am constantly worried about the roots clogging my pipes. I have a waterfall setup. I started looking around and for brewing beer there are very large fine mesh bags. i am thinking about attaching said bag to the net pot so roots grow inside the bag. i feel this will also help with any kind of movement that arises for flushing and vacuuming from time to time. well heres my idea on top of that. I am going to just make one big res in the tent. basically like a baby pool but square. figure i will use plywood and then a thick tarp draped in it. i will have a pump to that is used to pump water up and through a misting system blowing back down to cool the water as i have no chiller for this tent. i am thinking also anothr pump to just aerate the water and circulate it. I am going to buy the pink foam board to insulate the entire setup. I figure that with the extra water you can go 2 weeks before flush. Also, for anybody starting out the amount saved on bulkheads and pipes is huge. from what i gather the only reason to not grow multiple plants in one tanks is because the roots will grow together and they will choke each other out. the bag is the key as it will keep roots separate. I might try to waterproof the shit but for now i am leaning towards a liner like a pool. but using a tarp. i think it is the way to go instead of plumbing all this shit. what a hassle and the bulkhead cost is absurd. anyway let me know what ya think. if this is a fuckup waiting to happen let me know why.

peace out
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Roots will grow right through the mesh and will eventually plug up. There isnt an effective way to stop them. Go big on your return piping is the best option IMO.

Roots growing together is fine. No issues there except if you need to cull a male or hermie then things become a PITA.
 
Throttlebuzz

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Well, after spending a couple of days fucking with trying to fix leaks in thid stupid ass design for a hydroponics system. i finally fucking snapped as I've been known to do, and beat the ever loving shit out of it. So, there goes that. No more debating on whether or not to try a different setup. One thing i noticed by the water thst flooded was how goddamn nasty the supply lines are. I had root rot a couple of times. I had bleached it but who knows what was surviving. I am so pissed still thinking about the time and money wasted on this bullshit. Wait, i paid for my education. That's what i did. I still have the other tent running smooth and all these bucketscand pipes can suck my motherfuckin dick. I have hated them since the first leak on the first assembly. Anyway. How messy is a drip to waste system? I got a long run to get to waste but can do it. Can i go from drip to rdwc? Or is it best to go from rdwc to rdwc? I move plants over to my 5x5 after flowers are done. Think i will buy that 4x4 tank and srt up a fountain in it under the lid. Long night. Just going to bed but still too wound up. Definitely need to get on the dirtbike today...
 

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Major Blazer

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Deep breaths brother. Dtw drip systems aren't messy at all but since the mediums usually chosen are rockwool or coco moving into rdwc for flower might not be ideal. What about waterfarms? They are recirculating drip systems that you can easily diy with waterfarm kits and the netpots you already have, that way you can remove the halos before flower and just drop them right into your flower system.
 
Throttlebuzz

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Haha. I decided not to purchase a tank and make one instead. I used pallets cause thry are free. Lined with foam insulation then astic then a heavy tarp. Coveted eith foam board. One pump blasting inside should oxygenate enough i hope. I have a fan blowing on water but it looks like the insulation isn't going to be enough so i am contemplating chiller ideas. She holds 50 gallons ehich is up a lot from the 12-15 before and should find my mixing nutrients a lot less. Hopefully if water is kept cold i can go 3 to 4 weeks easily. Here's some pics. Nothing major but the cost was around 50 bucks as i had some shit already. Definitely something to consider in the futurr
 

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Bags are going to work awesome and i was thinking that due to the veg starting from clones.. I might cango the entire 8 weeksoon 1 tank. Afterwards, pump it out, take tarp in front yard for a quick cleaning and then I'm ready to go again. No scrubbing buckets. Just a pushbroom to scrub and a hose
 
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So far i have noticed water temps are running high. I thought the insulation was going to do better but the air temp is the air temp and its going to effect the water temp. I am going to grab the pump and put it outside the res. I'll just have to prime it. Also thinking about buying a countertop ice maker and running a coil of 50 ft of 1/4 inch tubing into it and hope it cools it some. It's not too bad at 74 degrees.
 
GanjaJack

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I just use 1 net pot and 1 five gallon bucket for 1 plant. Just harvested 17 ounces dry. 1000w,

Room temps at night go to about 69... during the day they can top at 79 at their highest.

I run no chiller, use 4 air stones with a 4 way GH air pump. Have never had a problem with root rot or any of the like.
 
Throttlebuzz

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Throttlebuzz said:
tarp wont work well for flushing and cleaning. hmm how about a think mill plastic that can just be removed and tossed insted of cleaning you add a new piece
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tarp can be moved. I put plastic under it for backup, but was thinkibg the same thing. Just get rid of it as its only a 6x6 piece
 
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redi jedi said:
Roots will grow right through the mesh and will eventually plug up. There isnt an effective way to stop them. Go big on your return piping is the best option IMO.

Roots growing together is fine. No issues there except if you need to cull a male or hermie then things become a PITA.
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Well, Jedi hit the nail on the head. I thought that if the roots had plenty of room the bags would work. That's a negative. Already have grown through the bag where current was blowing it up against it. All i ccan do now is hope roots stay apart. I guess i could make partitions with the leftover pink board have them only come up 2/3 of the way or even 1/2 since the bottom of roots it the problem.
 
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Throttlebuzz said:
tarp can be moved. I put plastic under it for backup, but was thinkibg the same thing. Just get rid of it as its only a 6x6 piece
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Throttlebuzz said:
Well, Jedi hit the nail on the head. I thought that if the roots had plenty of room the bags would work. That's a negative. Already have grown through the bag where current was blowing it up against it. All i ccan do now is hope roots stay apart. I guess i could make partitions with the leftover pink board have them only come up 2/3 of the way or even 1/2 since the bottom of roots it the problem.
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So as far as the res goes. This is the first flush i have done and it is pretty nice not having to worry about vaccuuming out the stranded water due to bulkheads. It is pretty fucking nice for sure. I am going to have to reinforce the top so i can make it into 2 pieces. I am going to do the black plastic removable line and get away from cleaning all together. Maybe stack about 8 pieces and they will be like tear offs on dirtbike goggles. Hahaha. So yeah., I'm really digging the one tank on the cheap so far and am debating switching the flower over. Its a bitch to flush.
 

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