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[70DAZE]

Here is a pic of the cut. This was not grown by us but the cut came from us via Mainely. You can check the grower on IG
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Hello everyone. I've lurked here for a LONGGG time lol. This is actually my grow of the Apple Fritter from AJ. Temperatures were higher than normal since summer heat is a real bitch at times in my location. The average was about 80-83 and lights-off temps only 4-6 degrees lower than that. I notice that in my garden I get much more color on my strain in the cooler months when lights-off temps can drop quite a bit more.

Unfortunately, I lost my clones of this AF, but I have one flowering rn under 3 SF-2000s. The one in the photo was under a Mars Hydro FCE6500 (Baller ass light FWIW). It's growing great. I did take some clones at Day 22 in flower after my cloner pathogen issue, and they have rooted, so I am going to attempt get them to reveg. Otherwise on my next order from AJ I will just buy it again, because this is a cut that I want in my garden personally. I get a strong apple terp. Very present almost reminds me of when my mom would make fried apples as a kid. For those of you that don't know, "fried"apples aren't really fried. They're just cooked down in a saucepan into a mush, then used for various dessert fillings. There is also a little bit of "foot funk" in there too lol. It's stinky.

Is it Lumpy's cut? I dunno. Don't really care tbh. It's a great cut and I think I can grow it much better than that even.

 

[Sqwee]

Helen Back clone isn't looking too good. Not sure if this is just bad heat stress from shipping or something else.

 

[Oliver Pantsoff]

Helen Back clone isn't looking too good. Not sure if this is just bad heat stress from shipping or something else.
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Yea, it looks like it's been thru hell and back...

OP

 

[Auntie Janes Nursery]

Helen Back clone isn't looking too good. Not sure if this is just bad heat stress from shipping or something else.
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did you scope them at all for mites??

 

[oswizzle]

yeah you might have Broad Mites bro

 

[Sqwee]

did you scope them at all for mites??

Yea first thing I did when I got them was to check the underside of all the leaves and the stems for pests or eggs with a jewelers loupe and I didn't see anything, just gave them another look over and still don't see any pests. Other than that I haven't done anything to them besides put them in some soil and give them a little drink of water phed to 6.5, no nutes. The GMO clones look okay, just a bit of tacoing from heat stress. I'm tempted to top the Helen Back to get rid of that mutated growth and that nasty leaf to see how the new growth looks but don't want to stress it any more until its recovered from shipping and transplant.

 

[Auntie Janes Nursery]

Yea first thing I did when I got them was to check the underside of all the leaves and the stems for pests or eggs with a jewelers loupe and I didn't see anything, just gave them another look over and still don't see any pests. Other than that I haven't done anything to them besides put them in some soil and give them a little drink of water phed to 6.5, no nutes. The GMO clones look okay, just a bit of tacoing from heat stress. I'm tempted to top the Helen Back to get rid of that mutated growth and that nasty leaf to see how the new growth looks but don't want to stress it any more until its recovered from shipping and transplant.

Doesn't look like hardening off and heat stress you would probably see a little more necrosis. I wouldn't chop any new growth at all. It could be PH or it could be Broad mites. Those are my two guesses. But it could be something completely different. The tacoing though is high ph.

When you got them they were in Rockwool I am guessing?? The roots may still be in the rockwool media and not in the soil yet which could lead you to high ph stress even though you are at 6.5 for the soil. That is just something I have noticed before actually myself.

 

[Sqwee]

Doesn't look like hardening off and heat stress you would probably see a little more necrosis. I wouldn't chop any new growth at all. It could be PH or it could be Broad mites. Those are my two guesses. But it could be something completely different. The tacoing though is high ph.

When you got them they were in Rockwool I am guessing?? The roots may still be in the rockwool media and not in the soil yet which could lead you to high ph stress even though you are at 6.5 for the soil. That is just something I have noticed before actually myself.

Yea they were in rock wool, I always use rapid rooters, no experience with rock wool and just planted them in the soil like I would with rapid rooters. I thought they were heat stressed considering they came to AZ and the person who delivered them never rang the door bell so they were just sitting outside on the table for who knows how long until I went outside and noticed the package.

 

[oswizzle]

you need a scope that goes like 200x to find micro mites

 

[Spondylo Grow]

I was gonna guess russets.

 

[tkufoS]

Yea they were in rock wool, I always use rapid rooters, no experience with rock wool and just planted them in the soil like I would with rapid rooters. I thought they were heat stressed considering they came to AZ and the person who delivered them never rang the door bell so they were just sitting outside on the table for who knows how long until I went outside and noticed the package.

Today wasn't a nice day for clones outside.. I got in the car today @ 3ish and the temp inside read 114 F .

 

[Sqwee]

Dookie got back to me about it said he doesn't know why its messed up. He said all the clones got a good spray of insecticide and a dip in Pure Crop before shipping. I wonder if that plus heat could have caused this damage? Only the Hellen Back looks like shit though and he offered to replace it I want.

 

[Mattbryson]

Dookie got back to me about it said he doesn't know why its messed up. He said all the clones got a good spray of insecticide and a dip in Pure Crop before shipping. I wonder if that plus heat could have caused this damage? Only the Hellen Back looks like shit though and he offered to replace it I want.

Never had no issues with dookie his cuts were always clean from what I could tell but I treat every clone like there is a chance they might have bugs or a issue I make sure I spray them like 3 times the first week with lost coast plant therapy or something like that but I have had some stressed out and look like hell after shipping but I learned what works for me to have alot less stress on the clone what works for me is when I get the clone I transplant it into a solo cup with coco Loco, great white and water in with some super thrive then I stick the clones in a tray with a dome for 24hrs with the vents all open then pull the dome off and keep the clones and not right under the light for the first week to get them use to my environment ( just what works for me )

 

[Titanium Rex]

One thing I have noticed by many businesses owned by smokers is they dont have the same business ethics as a non-cannabis-related business. Too many people in it for quick cash, or to supplement their consumption. I know more than a couple dispensories operated by former illegal dealers (pot, meth, cocaine, opioids etc) before this area went cannabis legal. They were dickhead drug dealers that didnt care how many families they destroyed or how their customers stole from their families and friends for the meth they sold them. All that mattered was they got paid. And then they take that money thats been stuffed in a hiding place for years and buy into the industry when it became legal. I know two brothers or I wouldnt mention that. They lost their licenses for buying flower illegally. But within 6 months time they were already back to business under a shell corporation and still in business today. Under cutting legal dispensory prices by 60-70%. (back to the same old tricks) And then there are the ones that work so stoned they cant remember who ordered what. Smokers work at their own pace and when you get irritated because you havent got your product in months all you get is "Im working on it bro give me some time" or "the latest covid excuse" And when you get it and the quality of the product is T-total crap and the next communication is sometimes followed with a parting comment like "Go F Yourself". Most of these guys arent dishonest they just dont have that good work ethic or this is their first foray into the world of entrepreneurship. Either they dont kow how or just dont give a rats rear. Now Im not saying everyone that smokes pot is a bad person to do business with. That would leave us without anyone to buy from in this industry...lol But I see more bad seeds in this industry than any other Ive encountered. And Ive met some guys that smoke that run a tight ship. They are usually the ones with their own large sum money invested or borrowed against their homes to turn this industry into their dream job and they rely on this business to make a living and feed their families. Hard to tell the good ones from the bad ones online when customer reviews are so easily manipulated. Thats why forums are much better for advice on who to deal with. You pretty much eliminate the competition posting bad reviews on their competitors and so many know each other here and have developed a certain trust or respect within the forum community.

 

[Auntie Janes Nursery]

Dookie got back to me about it said he doesn't know why its messed up. He said all the clones got a good spray of insecticide and a dip in Pure Crop before shipping. I wonder if that plus heat could have caused this damage? Only the Hellen Back looks like shit though and he offered to replace it I want.

That could very well be the effect of heat damage and oils. Definitely can agree with that. The oils could have clogged the stomatas. It should hopefully grow out of it.

Shipping in the summer sucks. Have to time it out to where the weather is right. Sometimes you have to turn down orders for the time being because the weather is a hell house and you know the survival rate and sometimes patience is better than sending a ton of cuts out as replacements. I follow the weather and if it is going to hit in the close to mid 90s I hold off.

 

[Auntie Janes Nursery]

One thing I have noticed by many businesses owned by smokers is they dont have the same business ethics as a non-cannabis-related business. Too many people in it for quick cash, or to supplement their consumption. I know more than a couple dispensories operated by former illegal dealers (pot, meth, cocaine, opioids etc) before this area went cannabis legal. They were dickhead drug dealers that didnt care how many families they destroyed or how their customers stole from their families and friends for the meth they sold them. All that mattered was they got paid. And then they take that money thats been stuffed in a hiding place for years and buy into the industry when it became legal. I know two brothers or I wouldnt mention that. They lost their licenses for buying flower illegally. But within 6 months time they were already back to business under a shell corporation and still in business today. Under cutting legal dispensory prices by 60-70%. (back to the same old tricks) And then there are the ones that work so stoned they cant remember who ordered what. Smokers work at their own pace and when you get irritated because you havent got your product in months all you get is "Im working on it bro give me some time" or "the latest covid excuse" And when you get it and the quality of the product is T-total crap and the next communication is sometimes followed with a parting comment like "Go F Yourself". Most of these guys arent dishonest they just dont have that good work ethic or this is their first foray into the world of entrepreneurship. Either they dont kow how or just dont give a rats rear. Now Im not saying everyone that smokes pot is a bad person to do business with. That would leave us without anyone to buy from in this industry...lol But I see more bad seeds in this industry than any other Ive encountered. And Ive met some guys that smoke that run a tight ship. They are usually the ones with their own large sum money invested or borrowed against their homes to turn this industry into their dream job and they rely on this business to make a living and feed their families. Hard to tell the good ones from the bad ones online when customer reviews are so easily manipulated. Thats why forums are much better for advice on who to deal with. You pretty much eliminate the competition posting bad reviews on their competitors and so many know each other here and have developed a certain trust or respect within the forum community.

I was having this conversation with someone the other day. My dad once said "If you do something you love, you'll get by". That always stuck with me. There are a lot of great people in this business, whether legal or illegal. They are in it for the plant. The cash itself is a great supplement and definitely mitigates a lot of the risk in a sense, but their main focus was something about the product itself. I couldn't tell you how many countless times I have heard people say marijuana saved their lives. Whether getting off of pain meds, or psychologically or just being able to focus during the day. How many stories of soldiers with PTSD who are not able to disassociate from it until they finally found cannabis and it changed their life around. I mean I don't think scientifically it can cure all diseases and what not but I still believe that it is a wonder. It can cure so many ailments and illnesses and help with side effects of the others. It can be medicinal or recreational. It is just a beautiful plant and I myself owe a lot to it for helping me get by. The best way to do so is to pay it forward somehow.

 

[Sqwee]

That could very well be the effect of heat damage and oils. Definitely can agree with that. The oils could have clogged the stomatas. It should hopefully grow out of it.

Shipping in the summer sucks. Have to time it out to where the weather is right. Sometimes you have to turn down orders for the time being because the weather is a hell house and you know the survival rate and sometimes patience is better than sending a ton of cuts out as replacements. I follow the weather and if it is going to hit in the close to mid 90s I hold off.

Yea I highly doubt its pests, they would be on the other clones in the same shipper and I'd be seeing this on more than just the one plant. Its still growing so with time it should grow out of it, I hope.

Definitely not getting clones shipped here again in the summer months, I'll wait for it to cool off.

Dookiefarms and I talked about heat possibly being an issue before shipping and he took extra steps to give the cuts the best chance of survival getting here, I'm not holding anything against him and still happy with his customer service.

 

[Tangerine_]

Dookie got back to me about it said he doesn't know why its messed up. He said all the clones got a good spray of insecticide and a dip in Pure Crop before shipping. I wonder if that plus heat could have caused this damage? Only the Hellen Back looks like shit though and he offered to replace it I want.

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That could very well be the effect of heat damage and oils.

I've had similar damage with Pure Crop. I know a lot of folks swear by it, and it does appear to be a good product but oils shouldnt be used prior to shipping, especially in this heat.

 

[colocowboy]

Too much moisture trapped in during stints in this heat will rot and mold cuts all kind of nasty as well!

 

[mudballs]

I was having this conversation with someone the other day. My dad once said "If you do something you love, you'll get by". That always stuck with me. There are a lot of great people in this business, whether legal or illegal. They are in it for the plant. The cash itself is a great supplement and definitely mitigates a lot of the risk in a sense, but their main focus was something about the product itself. I couldn't tell you how many countless times I have heard people say marijuana saved their lives. Whether getting off of pain meds, or psychologically or just being able to focus during the day. How many stories of soldiers with PTSD who are not able to disassociate from it until they finally found cannabis and it changed their life around. I mean I don't think scientifically it can cure all diseases and what not but I still believe that it is a wonder. It can cure so many ailments and illnesses and help with side effects of the others. It can be medicinal or recreational. It is just a beautiful plant and I myself owe a lot to it for helping me get by. The best way to do so is to pay it forward somehow.

I woulda been a homicidal sociopath long ago if i didnt have pot