American Wildfires

Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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Word is that it took another crazy amount of time from when the Dixie Fire was reported to get any action. The Camp Fire, same. Both started in the same spot and it wasn’t like the lightning complex where they were spread thin. Yes i’m sure they were helping up north but god fucking damnit thats what i’ve been talking about.
 
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doublejj

doublejj

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Aeroknow said:
The River fire. Well, they didn’t send any tankers until just about night time when they also have to go home.
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Cal fire has limited resources and they have to prioritize. Many times they are busy on other fires with structures threatened. at times they must let forests burn and concentrate on saving towns/structures....
 
HGCC

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Man its gross out at the moment, smoke is pretty thick and hanging out like fog.

Edit: I would describe it as about 530 pm at a KOA campground level of smoke. All the campfires starting up with semi damp wood.
 
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Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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HGCC said:
Man its gross out at the moment, smoke is pretty thick and hanging out like fog.

Edit: I would describe it as about 530 pm at a KOA campground level of smoke. All the campfires starting up with semi damp wood.
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Once we felt like we were going to live and finally got going, i texted my buddy who was driving my other car with my
Male french mastiff to meet me down in Oroville. I made my way to storage to grab all my guns and a bunch of cash. I was like fuck yeah i’m alive and i got my cash. Fucker called me and told me he crashed the car into another car and he’s bleeding bad, Rex was on top of him. Omfg.
i made my way down to him fire on both sides of the road. Knew my house was gone and i had just barely dodged death by fire in a car. Scraped him and rex up(rudy broke bones in his face rex was ok). We did not stop until we made it down to my buddies house in Lockeford. I took rudy to the emergency room. While he was in there i went to a gas station and dude next to me talked some shit about the smoke.




I wanted to strangle that guy. Lol. Not saying this to talk shit to you just thought i had to say it.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Aeroknow said:
Fuck yeah. Shouldn’t we make that program even bigger for the non violent offenders? Duh!

i’m all for reduced sentences. But allot of our locked up bros in that program just got released. Good/bad. Lets open up that program to more heads. Fuck welding.

good time for participating should be 75% your time. Save the 50% for the heads that just wanna rot. Gotta have a grip of time to even get considered as is. Maybe change that too?
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Inmate fire fighters can't fight fires once they're released because their records prevent it. How fucked up is that?

Also, those guys make a couple dollars an hour, tops. That's indentured servitude or slavery, which puts them behind the 8 ball when they get released. Often, their only option is to go back and do it again...

The whole system is fucked. But we knew that.

 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Humble_Budlings said:
Exactly the opposite is true, but I am not trying to be a troll. High-intensity burns that eliminate the canopy increase the likelihood and severity of future wildfires. Most of the mega-fires start in or near recent burn scars, and the most intense fire behavior is seen in burn scars. Low-intensity controlled burns of the understory only, in the wet season,
eliminate fuels without destroying the canopy cover and are helpful...

But the issue of wildfire is not a consequence of fire suppression... That's a trope generated by the logging industry, and increasingly the bio-mass energy industry. People on the news repeat that crap because the high number of studies funded by companies like Sierra Pacific, Weyerhaeuser, IFG, Georgia Pacific and others.

In a nutshell, the most important underlying condition that determines wildfire intensity is the health of the water table. All forms of clearing and disturbance impact the water table severely. The density and depth of root veneration in soil is the biggest factor determining the infiltration of water during the wet season. Logging is in fact the utter main culprit, of course behind climate change.

It's very difficult to know for sure, but around 0.1% of our forests in California are "primary" or undisturbed. Where I live, the hills full of forest were a literal lunar landscape during the gold rush. Everything surrounding me was at least once clear cut, to fuel steam engines driving the mining equipment. The forest will take, depending on who you listen to, 500 to 1200 years to reach the level of soil veneration of a "primary" forest.

There's loads of things we as a state or as a country could be doing to accelerate the process of regenerating healthy forests. But mostly, the forest service is working for the timber industry. So you will probably continue to hear this trope about fuel loads circulated.
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TIL

Thanks for the lesson.
 
Cycad

Cycad

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We came close a couple of months ago here. A wildfire was set off by two arseholes using a barbecue, they emptied the ashes in the morning and... 65 properties were destroyed, they had tp bring in the big water bombing aircraft. I could see the red glow and all the smoke but this was about 3 miles distant so, OK. Or so I thought.
About 7pm on the second day my wife told me of a plume of smoke nearby on the lower slope of the mountain. I went to investigate and from half a mile I could hear the bangs and snaps of burning trees. The nearby quinta, people had no idea, I shouted and a guy came out in his vest. At first he didn't seem to believe me. A helicopter came over and someone managed to extinguish it before it got really going. I can still hardly believe that a wildfire burning three miles away can send over a brand that ignites my hillside. I take it seriously; I clearcut all wild brush within 20m of the house, and fortunately my house is fireproof, being made of adobe, concrete, steel and brick. Construction techniques and materials will have to change in places subject to wildfire risk. Building in wood is not something that's viable any more.
 
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