Do you count the first week of 12/12 as "transition" or week 1 of flower?

[A.k.a]

Doesn’t giving it longer dark hours speed up maturing if you don’t mind losing yield?

 

[bk78]

Doesn’t giving it longer dark hours speed up maturing if you don’t mind losing yield?

Any links to this study done?

 

[jondamon]

Personally I’m only counting days of 12/12 now because I’ve got a thread going and can easily work out where I am.

I count mine like this as days of 12/12.

the plant will finish when it’s ready and not when I say you’ve had enough days lol.

but for newbies counting flowering time

YOU SHOULD NOT INCLUDE THE STRETCH PHASE TRANSITION AS FLOWERING!!

IT IS STILL VEG GROWTH!

 

[A.k.a]

Any links to this study done?

I’m not sure it’s even a thing, but I’ve seen it mentioned a few times and it seems to make sense since it would mimic winter coming.

I’m also curious if anybody has anything solid related to this.

 

[magnetik]

I use 12/12 day one to be more consistent. I also don't pull until done. Instead of counting your transition week.. just start 12/12 and add days/weeks to the end. Esp if growing different cultivars since you'll have differing transition times. I use an app called Days Counter. It allows me to set a date and it will show the # of days since start. I generally start looking at trichs on the day the breeder says they'll be done or if I see considerable fade... which is never under and always over so it works out. I just know I'm generally near the finish line at that point.

 

[Rum Nugginz]

I’m not sure it’s even a thing, but I’ve seen it mentioned a few times and it seems to make sense since it would mimic winter coming.

I’m also curious if anybody has anything solid related to this.

13 off 11 on does help some sativa strains mature faster, some pure sativa landrace strains will not even begin to flower indoors unless they get at least 13 hours of darkness. I don't know the exact reason why, but from what I have researched about sativas, it has something to do with their native habitat being at or below the equator and the relation to equal hours of sunlight and darkness in that part of the world. I can also tell you that giving them 48 hours of darkness at the very beginning of flower will help kick them right into bloom.

 

[Rum Nugginz]

I use 12/12 day one to be more consistent. I also don't pull until done. Instead of counting your transition week.. just start 12/12 and add days/weeks to the end. Esp if growing different cultivars since you'll have differing transition times. I use an app called Days Counter. It allows me to set a date and it will show the # of days since start. I generally start looking at trichs on the day the breeder says they'll be done or if I see considerable fade... which is never under and always over so it works out. I just know I'm generally near the finish line at that point.

I don't normally pull until done either, I was just wondering how other people keep track of flowering times. I also like to know when to begin scoping the trichs as well. I have found judging by fade to be tricky on certain strains, for example when they start to fade I start to watch for the swelling, then I know it's time to scope the trichomes, imo

 

[curious2garden]

I don't normally pull until done either, I was just wondering how other people keep track of flowering times. I also like to know when to begin scoping the trichs as well

Without an agreed upon standard it's grower preference. So know you have a minimum two week variation in flowering time. Then figure they know the strain and have it dialed so figure maybe another 2 weeks. Then figure their 'maturity' may differ from yours and you eventually reach a point of clear confusion.

I count from the date I flipped lights and I chop when they appear to need it or I've had enough of them.

 

[Rum Nugginz]

Without an agreed upon standard it's grower preference. So know you have a minimum two week variation in flowering time. Then figure they know the strain and have it dialed so figure maybe another 2 weeks. Then figure their 'maturity' may differ from yours and you eventually reach a point of clear confusion.

I count from the date I flipped lights and I chop when they appear to need it or I've had enough of them.

You are correct, it is usually a 2 week difference give or take. It works out roughly the same, just a different method of looking at it.

 

[jondamon]

or I've had enough of them.

Literally laughed out loud at this lol.

 

[Rum Nugginz]

Without an agreed upon standard it's grower preference. So know you have a minimum two week variation in flowering time. Then figure they know the strain and have it dialed so figure maybe another 2 weeks. Then figure their 'maturity' may differ from yours and you eventually reach a point of clear confusion.

I count from the date I flipped lights and I chop when they appear to need it or I've had enough of them.

or you get mad at em

 

[curious2garden]

or you get mad at em

No use, the plant is done when it’s finished

 

[osowhom]

Just the last 2 waterings with r/o

i just do the final watering with ro and i drown them with like 5 gallons the night before harvest but thats just me and it does make a mess lol

 

[curious2garden]

I've been trying to wean back on the food a little earlier now and flush longer, to prevent the plant from continuing to push out pistils and fox tailing at the end, so that it can focus instead on ripening. I flush for up to 3 weeks in some cases. In a 3 gallon pot, I will run a gallon of r/o water through the soil and then about an hour later I will flush another gallon through to push out the salts that the first gallon tied up, then I won't flush again until the soil dries up and they actually need a watering. I repeat every 3-4 days or so until the plant is ripe enough to harvest.

Cutting back on a plant in senescence is one thing, starving a finishing plant does nothing but decrease yield and make your plant susceptible to the mold you're worrying about.

I like to let the soil dry out completely before harvesting to prevent mold/mildew issues during the slow drying process.

How does drying out a plant completely stop fungus from forming on a chopped and hung plant?

 

[Star Dog]

Change the timer and wait 10 weeks for starters, you soon get an idea when to pick up the loupe ime it's never before 10 weeks.

That's 10 weeks of feeding I can't get my head around not feeding them for 1-3 weeks, what does it achieve

 

[bk78]

Furthermore, I do not starve my plant

I do a ripening flush using NFTG products for the first 2 weeks, then onto straight water until ripe. .

K

 

[xtsho]

What's senseless is flushing for 3 weeks and running 1 gallon of water followed an hour later with another gallon through a 3 gallon pot.

 

[Rum Nugginz]

What's senseless is flushing for 3 weeks and running 1 gallon of water followed an hour later with another gallon through a 3 gallon pot.

Have you never heard of leaching soil?

 

[Rum Nugginz]

or do you just like to disagree?

 

[xtsho]

Have you never heard of leaching soil?

Yes I've heard of it and it's a waste of time. Unless you accidently measured incorrectly and significantly overfed there is no reason to do it.