American Wildfires

Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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Cycad said:
We came close a couple of months ago here. A wildfire was set off by two arseholes using a barbecue, they emptied the ashes in the morning and... 65 properties were destroyed, they had tp bring in the big water bombing aircraft. I could see the red glow and all the smoke but this was about 3 miles distant so, OK. Or so I thought.
About 7pm on the second day my wife told me of a plume of smoke nearby on the lower slope of the mountain. I went to investigate and from half a mile I could hear the bangs and snaps of burning trees. The nearby quinta, people had no idea, I shouted and a guy came out in his vest. At first he didn't seem to believe me. A helicopter came over and someone managed to extinguish it before it got really going. I can still hardly believe that a wildfire burning three miles away can send over a brand that ignites my hillside. I take it seriously; I clearcut all wild brush within 20m of the house, and fortunately my house is fireproof, being made of adobe, concrete, steel and brick. Construction techniques and materials will have to change in places subject to wildfire risk. Building in wood is not something that's viable any more.
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I’m a metal stud framer by trade. Union lather. Drywall/lath is the name of our trade.
If my house up in paradise was built out of metal studs, it would have still burned down.
I didn’t have a metal roof, but had zero exposed eaves, stuccoed. stucco exterior, and those ember safe soffit vents i showed earlier. My property was kept tight.

There is no stopping the fires that are getting blown at us around here anymore. Your shit is just in the path. You guys need to understand this. Do the new codes help? Yes. Don’t get me wrong. But
 
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Aeroknow

Aeroknow

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Can’t just tear down all the houses in our communities and rebuild with the most fire resistant materials. Just ain’t gonna happen. And even if that were to happen, we would still burn. That’s all i’m saying
 
Cycad

Cycad

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Agreed. But rebuilding and new builds? Things have to change. My house is made of 8-inch mud block. The roof is brick and concrete held by steel girders.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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Maybe it is time to start building down instead of up?

idk, there has to be a combination of ways that we can figure out how to safely live there.

It would not be easy or cheap. Those days are over for much of the planet that humans have decided to destroy the life that had been there for thousands of years. Our time scale is so short until recently.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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mooray said:
Gotta live where nature tells us to live. Nuts don't grow in the desert naturally, so don't grow them there. You should never have to water acres of anything.
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How are they going to keep all the golf courses green in the drought stricken west unless they waste water on them?

www.azcentral.com

Some Arizona golf courses are pushing back against the state's plan to reduce water use

"We can't go on with business as usual": Arizona officials have plans to reduce water use on golf courses. Some in the golf industry are pushing back.
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topcat

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topcat

topcat

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xtsho said:
How are they going to keep all the golf courses green in the drought stricken west unless they waste water on them?

www.azcentral.com

Some Arizona golf courses are pushing back against the state's plan to reduce water use

"We can't go on with business as usual": Arizona officials have plans to reduce water use on golf courses. Some in the golf industry are pushing back.
www.azcentral.com
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Arizona is asking a measly 3.1% of reduction. In California, they're asking the 20% of us that aren't agriculture to cut our use by 20%. They call this another drought, but actually, we've been in a prolonged drought for 10 years. We had one year with near average rainfall and they called the drought over. The only thing that has enabled most to ignore it is the snowpack and high water content of it, but it's caught up to us.
 
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mooray

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It sucks that there is even such a thing as "world food production". People are supposed to grow/trade/eat within their community and not be affected by some meat corporation getting hacked halfway around the world, or truckers going on strike, or a fuel shortage. Things will get ugly, but it will probably have to collapse in order to restructure, because we are incapable of learning without a life or death experience.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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topcat said:
Arizona is asking a measly 3.1% of reduction. In California, they're asking the 20% of us that aren't agriculture to cut our use by 20%. They call this another drought, but actually, we've been in a prolonged drought for 10 years. We had one year with near average rainfall and they called the drought over. The only thing that has enabled most to ignore it is the snowpack and high water content of it, but it's caught up to us.
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The mindset of these people pushing back against common sense measures that need to be taken sickens me. I understand the golf industry's concerns. They don't want to give an inch and have that turn into a mile but things are getting to the point where the actual viability of their business needs to be questioned. There are farmers that are not planting food because of lack of water. At some point food is going to overtake golf for water use. It's just a fact. If the drought keeps up for another 5-10 years there is no way water can be wasted on keeping a bunch of grass green in desert climates.
 
farmingfisherman

farmingfisherman

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Just read about this guy, I'm hoping that a special place in hell is reserved for him.

news.yahoo.com

Criminal Justice Prof Set Blazes Across NorCal as Dixie Fire Raged: Cops

Sonoma State University/GettyA criminal justice professor allegedly went on an arson spree in Northern California along the edges of the gargantuan Dixie Fire in late July.Gary Maynard, age 47, set a series of fires in Lassen National Forest and Shasta Trinity National Forest, an area in rural...
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mooray

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farmingfisherman said:
Just read about this guy, I'm hoping that a special place in hell is reserved for him.

news.yahoo.com

Criminal Justice Prof Set Blazes Across NorCal as Dixie Fire Raged: Cops

Sonoma State University/GettyA criminal justice professor allegedly went on an arson spree in Northern California along the edges of the gargantuan Dixie Fire in late July.Gary Maynard, age 47, set a series of fires in Lassen National Forest and Shasta Trinity National Forest, an area in rural...
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Wood chipper.
 
topcat

topcat

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farmingfisherman said:
Just read about this guy, I'm hoping that a special place in hell is reserved for him.

news.yahoo.com

Criminal Justice Prof Set Blazes Across NorCal as Dixie Fire Raged: Cops

Sonoma State University/GettyA criminal justice professor allegedly went on an arson spree in Northern California along the edges of the gargantuan Dixie Fire in late July.Gary Maynard, age 47, set a series of fires in Lassen National Forest and Shasta Trinity National Forest, an area in rural...
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Wicker Man.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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farmingfisherman said:
Just read about this guy, I'm hoping that a special place in hell is reserved for him.

news.yahoo.com

Criminal Justice Prof Set Blazes Across NorCal as Dixie Fire Raged: Cops

Sonoma State University/GettyA criminal justice professor allegedly went on an arson spree in Northern California along the edges of the gargantuan Dixie Fire in late July.Gary Maynard, age 47, set a series of fires in Lassen National Forest and Shasta Trinity National Forest, an area in rural...
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I volunteer to administer punishment.
 
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