Dyna Gro Foliage Pro

[ISK]

you'll still always be Dr. Evil to me. lol.

see if you can get Jack's RO or Tap formulas up your way. I'm on the RO now. love it. 3-1-4 start to finish.

LOL... remember when RIU was off-air for about 2 weeks? I opened an account on Grasscity and called myself Dr. Evil

Jacks is another one I would consider but also can't find it locally, never heard of Taps.....might have to road trip to Bellingham Washington to stock up on supplies

cheers
Dr. Evil .... and mini-me

 

[toomp]

I've heard that Foliage Pro can be used from start to finish without using Grow and/or Bloom ...can anyone confirm this is all one needs or are Grow & Bloom worth while to use as well?

My local grow-shop recommends using "Grow" and "Bloom" as well as "Foliage Pro", but they are into selling more products

BTW: I grow hempy style, typically 75% perlite / 25% vermiculite in 2L pop bottles.

cheers
ISK

I use foliage pro only when I run chems because ease of use
I get lower yields than when using foxfarm entire line up
cant explain the science all I know is the result genetics where the same.

 

[ISK]

I bought a gallon (3.7 L) of Dyna-Gro Foliage Pro, as such I'm doing a comparison between the Dyna Gro and GH MaxiBloom

In Canada we are only allowed to grow 4 plants, as such my comparison is merely for my personal knowledge and should not be considered a proper study, as it is what it is.

I started 4 seedlings, designated the "best and weakest" for Dyna Gro, and the "middle ones" for GH MaxiBloom...all get Cal-Mag as well

Note: I did mess up with my pH, as such all four had issues but are back on track now

So far, I have noticed a huge difference between the two test groups, but to my surprise the MaxiBloom is doing much better

The instructions for the Dyna Pro says 2-3 tsp per gallon in recirculating systems and 1 tsp for non-circulating systems

So since I growing hempy style I would assume this is non-circulating, thus went for 1 tsp (5ml) per gallon (3.7 L), so sized to 1.35 ml per litre (as I only need one litre at a time for the 2 plants)

It became very obvious by the lack of growth (compared to the MaxiBloom plants) and light green pale look of these 2 plants have, it was obvious that they were not getting enough nutes, so I increased to 2 ml per litre, and recently increased to 3 ml per litre

@Nizza since I know you have hempy experience, what ratio of Dyna Gro Foliage Pro have you used for your hempy grows?

The two getting MaxiBloom


The two getting Dyna Gro





For more pic's, see my Grow Journal which is linked in my "Signature" (My 2021 Fall Grow) ....or the link below

https://www.rollitup.org/t/my-2021-fall-grow.1060685/


cheers
ISK

 

[Billy the Mountain]

Dyna Foliage Pro and MaxiBloom are very different.
Fpro has too much N for flower in my experience, also lacks sulfur and only .5% magnesium

Sometimes a picture is worth a few words:

5ml/gal FPro:


5g/gal MaxiBloom:

 

[Billy the Mountain]

Just noticed you said you're giving Foliage Pro at 3 ml/liter?
That's 350 ppm Nitrogen which is way way too high
More is rarely better

Fpro at 3ml/liter

 

[ISK]

Just noticed you said you're giving Foliage Pro at 3 ml/liter?
That's 350 ppm Nitrogen which is way way too high
More is rarely better

Fpro at 3ml/liter
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I hear you, but it was so obvious that 1.35 ml/litre was not enough....maybe 3 is too high but it has been improving since I increased the dose to 2 ml...maybe I'll back off a bit

 

[Nizza]

I bought a gallon (3.7 L) of Dyna-Gro Foliage Pro, as such I'm doing a comparison between the Dyna Gro and GH MaxiBloom

In Canada we are only allowed to grow 4 plants, as such my comparison is merely for my personal knowledge and should not be considered a proper study, as it is what it is.

I started 4 seedlings, designated the "best and weakest" for Dyna Gro, and the "middle ones" for GH MaxiBloom...all get Cal-Mag as well

Note: I did mess up with my pH, as such all four had issues but are back on track now

So far, I have noticed a huge difference between the two test groups, but to my surprise the MaxiBloom is doing much better

The instructions for the Dyna Pro says 2-3 tsp per gallon in recirculating systems and 1 tsp for non-circulating systems

So since I growing hempy style I would assume this is non-circulating, thus went for 1 tsp (5ml) per gallon (3.7 L), so sized to 1.35 ml per litre (as I only need one litre at a time for the 2 plants)

It became very obvious by the lack of growth (compared to the MaxiBloom plants) and light green pale look of these 2 plants have, it was obvious that they were not getting enough nutes, so I increased to 2 ml per litre, and recently increased to 3 ml per litre

@Nizza since I know you have hempy experience, what ratio of Dyna Gro Foliage Pro have you used for your hempy grows?

The two getting MaxiBloom
View attachment 4969705

The two getting Dyna Gro

View attachment 4969706



For more pic's, see my Grow Journal which is linked in my "Signature" (My 2021 Fall Grow) ....or the link below

https://www.rollitup.org/t/my-2021-fall-grow.1060685/


cheers
ISK

I think the last time i used FP was like 8 years ago. I was bouncing between 1/4 dose and 1/2 dose, and feeding at full "half dose" or "quarter dose" then diluting it in half, feeding the next time, then half again to 1/4 of that strength with 10 % runoff each time.
so it was "full feed" (1/2- 1/4), half feed ( half of that) , 1/4 feed ( half again), repeat to control the salts build up

always loving the sun grows ISK, hope you have fun with the foliage pro, that stuff was awesome

 

[ISK]

I think the last time i used FP was like 8 years ago. I was bouncing between 1/4 dose and 1/2 dose, and feeding at full "half dose" or "quarter dose" then diluting it in half, feeding the next time, then half again to 1/4 of that strength with 10 % runoff each time.
so it was "full feed" (1/2- 1/4), half feed ( half of that) , 1/4 feed ( half again), repeat to control the salts build up

always loving the sun grows ISK, hope you have fun with the foliage pro, that stuff was awesome

thanks Nizza...so far I'm not having fun with the Dyna Gro, as I just don't have it dialed in as I do MaxiBloom

I have started another seed, so not sure if I'll play if safe with MaxiBloom, or try to find the happy spot with Dyna Gro

 

[Nizza]

One thing i remember with Dyna grow is that you gotta really shake it up. before shaking it up inspect it and if there is salts on the bottom it may be crystallized salts. This is usually due to freezing of the bottle during shipment and can be solved by diluting it in half with hot water and stirring it up to re dissolve it then using double what you would calculate. I have only bought the pint sized when i started

 

[ISK]

One thing i remember with Dyna grow is that you gotta really shake it up. before shaking it up inspect it and if there is salts on the bottom it may be crystallized salts. This is usually due to freezing of the bottle during shipment and can be solved by diluting it in half with hot water and stirring it up to re dissolve it then using double what you would calculate. I have only bought the pint sized when i started

I do regret buying the gallon size.....it will last me years...should have got the pint size

Can't see to the bottom of the jug to determine if there's a build up....but I will give it a serious shake

 

[curious2garden]

I do regret buying the gallon size.....it will last me years...should have got the pint size

Can't see to the bottom of the jug to determine if there's a build up....but I will give it a serious shake

I've never had Foliage Pro precipitate out on me, only their Bloom fwiw

 

[ISK]

I've never had Foliage Pro precipitate out on me, only their Bloom fwiw

thanks c2g .....I did give it a good shake, suppose it can't hurt any

 

[curious2garden]

thanks c2g .....I did give it a good shake, suppose it can't hurt any

I shake mine. I shake my GH Flora Trio too and feel like an idiot every time I do it too but old habits

 

[ISK]

I shake mine. I shake my GH Flora Trio too and feel like an idiot every time I do it too but old habits

LOL....I know I conduct certain rituals just because it was important in the old days but is no longer required.....hard to teach an old dog new tricks

 

[Forage]

For the Maxibloom: I sort of clone Canna Coco's formula using a bunch of shit I have lying around. They use a 10/11 PK booster 4 weeks before harvest. You could use the maxi bloom for that, and cut the foliage pro just a little bit. Or not, I'm only doing it because Canna does it, it's not like I've run a side-by-side.

Bloom formula: I just spent more years than I care to say growing weed that was both burned and starving at the same time because I was using high P formulas in coco and promix. When I ran 3-1-2 in flowering it solved all that. But I have heard that hydroton/dwc/perlite may be where that high P stuff works.

 

[Wastei]

Been using it for years. Used bloom to lower N in late flower. You can boil the precipitates/clumps in RO water to get them to dissolve again. Then use that and measure EC/ppm as usual.

Like @rkymtnman mentioned it's low in Mg and might need supplementation but I only added tiny amounts of epsom in hydro.

 

[Rurumo]

It really doesn't have too much N for flower. A lot of companies are raising their N in bloom formulas or all in 1 formulas now to catch up with the times. I've use a lot of maxibloom over the years and I wish it had more N and less P. It certainly works well but isn't optimal. I just bought a bag of Megacrop 1 part to use on my next grow, I'm liking the #s for that a lot on paper. I would definitely make adjustments with Foliage Pro, it could certainly benefit from additional epsom salts.

 

[ISK]

I quit using the Dyna Gro for now.....started feeding them MaxiBloom and they are looking much better.....just not sure why the Dyna Gro just didn't do well for me.

I may try it again another grow

 

[rkymtnman]

I quit using the Dyna Gro for now.....started feeding them MaxiBloom and they are looking much better.....just not sure why the Dyna Gro just didn't do well for me.

I may try it again another grow

that's weird for sure. i was a maxi guy for years: i really like the 3-1-2 or 3-1-4 ratio now instead of Lucas of 1-2-2.

if you can get it up your way, check out Jack's RO or Tap 1 part formulas. i like it better than foliage pro for sure.

 

[Billy the Mountain]

One thing to keep in mind is that FPro has virtually no sulfur, and only 2% Ca and 0.5% Mg
I've used Fpro with rockwool without issues, with coco it needs some help.