topcat
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I'll consider her, but I'm not a single issue voter. Mr. Natural is another option.Look at Jackie McGowan, a cannabis activist.
Trump's attempted coup and R congress people
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Sir Napsalot
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Mr. Natural's first name is Fred
topcat
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Few would recognize the name. Mr. Natural though, gets attention. He might make a good governor, but I'm voting no on the recall.
CatHedral
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This didn’t work.
topcat
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Thanks for the tip. I was going to write in a joke candidate, then realized I'd be working against myself. If Newsom doesn't get over 50%, then one of the 46 names will finish his term. Someone with 9% of the vote could then be governor. So, I'm voting no on recall and for McGowan, just in case. This recall process is way too easy and will become a strategy for Republicans in any state that has the provision in the future. They'll even introduce legislation to include the recall process in states that don't have it.Look at Jackie McGowan, a cannabis activist.
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hanimmal
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And if anything happens to Feinstein and a Republican won they would be able to take the senate from the Democrats.
topcat
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Here in Sonoma County, a recall of the District Attorney is on the ballot. It was initiated by Bill Gallaher, a developer and owner of Oakmont Senior Living and two others after being prosecuted for abandoning 100 elderly residents during the Tubbs fire in 2017. He is the sole financier of the recall, because of a personal grudge. No one is listed as a candidate running against her.
I do not like Jill Ravitch because of her decision not to prosecute Sheriff deputy Erick Gelhaus for the murder of Andy Lopez, 13. However, she ran again, I voted against her and she still won. I'll vote no on this recall, as well, because we had our chance to get rid of her and lost. I'm still pissed at the Gray Davis recall that gave us Ahnodt Shvatsenboogah. This recall provision requires a higher standard.
hanimmal
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It really is scary how easy it is to remove your governor.
Although it is nice that they mail out ballot applications (think that they said applications and not the actual ballot, but not 100%) to every eligible voter though.
topcat
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"All active, registered voters will be automatically sent a ballot in the mail (CA Senate Bill 29)"
hanimmal
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Nice. That is how it should be done.
topcat
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until you are taken off, which is the strategy in the South. purging eligible voters.
my friend, laws are just paper and some paper supersedes other paper.
yeah that's the one everything thinks of first.
DIY-HP-LED
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As Frustration Grows w/DOJ's Inaction, Let's Compare the 1/6 Insurrection Investigation w/Watergate
As Donald Trump continues to spread The Big Lie - continues to undermine the election results and our democracy - frustration grows with the apparent inaction of the Department of Justice.
The fact of the matter is complex conspiracy investigations take time. This video looks at the insurrection investigation through the lens of how long it took to indict some of the main players in the Watergate burglary and coverup.
Additionally, although people are asking if Attorney General Merrick Garland and the others in DOJ leadership positions are up to the task of holding Trump and his criminal associates accountable, given Garland's prior work as a prosecutor he would fully understand the importance to our nation of holding Trump accountable for inciting the insurrection on January 6.
As Donald Trump continues to spread The Big Lie - continues to undermine the election results and our democracy - frustration grows with the apparent inaction of the Department of Justice.
The fact of the matter is complex conspiracy investigations take time. This video looks at the insurrection investigation through the lens of how long it took to indict some of the main players in the Watergate burglary and coverup.
Additionally, although people are asking if Attorney General Merrick Garland and the others in DOJ leadership positions are up to the task of holding Trump and his criminal associates accountable, given Garland's prior work as a prosecutor he would fully understand the importance to our nation of holding Trump accountable for inciting the insurrection on January 6.
i disagree. if you look at the dates of Watergate you'll find the true commission didn't take place for quite some time after House proceedings.
so let's NOT compare..let's NOT be critical of Biden..let's just shut our mouths and let this guy do his job already.
frustration? i am frustrated of our Media.
CatHedral
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You made me look it up. Thirteen months. “Halfway there” using 70s tech.
I’m hoping the holiday season will start with a giant turkey roast.
I’m patient.
nuskool89
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Trump also tried to stage a coup with the help of a corrupt and treasonous DOJ official named Jeffrey Clark. Mister Clark is gonna be on the congressional hot seat for so fucking long his butt will be well fucking done when he gets off. 1/6 wasn't the only coup attempt, this one came closer and if it succeeded, 1/6 would have been the beginning of open civil war.
So when he couldn't win by cheating and fucking up the election and post office as much as he could, he resorted to a coup and trying to illegally change the election results, culminating in the failed insurrection attempt on 1/6. Republican congress people were in on the plot to overthrown democratic government, or parts of it, in a conspiracy with the trump administration and this included the 1/6 insurrection. Thus ending 240 years of the peaceful transfer of power in the USA, hurt political stability, damaged America's image abroad and lessened the confidence of important allies.
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The full picture of Trump's attempted coup is only starting to emerge
President Donald Trump -- back in the final days of his presidency -- didn't exactly make a secret of his effort to overturn the election he'd just lost and so it's very easy to get tired of thinking about it, now that he's out of office and his official powers have been clipped.amp.cnn.com
The full picture of Trump's attempted coup is only starting to emerge
(CNN)President Donald Trump -- back in the final days of his presidency -- didn't exactly make a secret of his effort to overturn the election he'd just lost and so it's very easy to get tired of thinking about it, now that he's out of office and his official powers have been clipped.
But in addition to the lies he was spreading all along, we continue to learn new and disturbing details about his obstinate and pernicious efforts to poison the system from within, which included an "Apprentice"-style showdown between two top Justice Department officials at the White House and threats of resignation.
Woven together, they show that Trump's assault on democracy, which looks more and more like an attempted coup, was even more reckless and insistent than previously thought.
The recent news includes these items:
CNN's Marshall Cohen, Jason Morris, Christopher Hickey and Will Mullery have put together an in-depth timeline of Trump's efforts to corrupt the US government and the Georgia government. It is exhaustive and shocking.
- Trump pressured acting DOJ officials like acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen on December 27 to "Just say that the election was corrupt + leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen," according to the notes of acting Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue's notes, shared with House investigators.
- A day later, on December 28, at least one acting DOJ official, Jeffrey Clark, who was in charge of the civil division, apparently bought into Trump's lies, or wanted to assuage him, and drafted a letter suggesting there were election irregularities in the election (there weren't), but it was rebuffed by other top acting officials.
- Officials like Rosen's chief of staff Patrick Hovakimian drafted letters of resignation in case his boss was pushed out in favor of Clark.
It's the threat of a block of DOJ resignations among the acting officials (these people, as acting officials, were supposed to be Trump loyalists) that may have stopped Trump from a last-minute firing of officials at Justice.
Bear in mind that Trump's pressure on Rosen and Donoghue came exactly one day after the final resignation of former Attorney General William Barr.
Barr left the administration in its final month, not long after he'd told a reporter the truth, that there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud that could change the outcome of the election.
Trump exploded at this perceived betrayal by Barr in a White House meeting documented by Jonathan Karl in a forthcoming book.
On Barr's last day, Trump was on the phone with officials in Georgia, encouraging them to "find" votes. They wouldn't do it.
These details will come out in a fuller narrative now that House investigators are interviewing former Trump officials.
That official record will supplement the details we already knew, like the "Apprentice"-style showdown, which went on for hours, where Rosen and Clark each presented arguments to Trump about how to proceed in his final days.
That occurred January 3. Three days later, Trump's supporters attacked the Capitol to stop the counting of electoral votes.
The strain of Trump's efforts to undermine the election were not isolated to the Justice Department. Earlier this year we learned from another book that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Mark Milley was actively engaged in countering any effort by Trump to use the government to seize power.
It's good news that even officials once perceived as Trump loyalists would not help him overturn the election. But it all needs to be considered in context and with the knowledge that Trump could very well run for the White House again.
It's also worth considering whether he broke the law by exerting pressure to break the US democratic process.
"Forget about a crime. I see several federal crimes here," said the former federal prosecutor and CNN analyst Elie Honig, who has recently published a book that is an indictment of Barr's time in the Trump administration.
Here's more detail from Honig, who made these comments to CNN's Erin Burnett:
"I'll be specific. It is a federal crime to deprive a state of a fair election.
It is a federal crime to solicit false counting of ballots, false certification of an election.
It is a federal crime to conspire against the United States.
Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources
The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.
FBI finds little evidence Jan. 6 insurrection was organized attack: report
"There was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones ... to storm the Capitol and take hostages"
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FBI confirms there was no insurrection on Jan. 6 - Washington Examiner
The Cambridge Dictionary defines “insurrection” as: “an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence” By that definition, there was no “insurrection” at the United States Capitol on Jan. 6, according to the FBI. Reuters...
www.washingtonexaminer.com
So now what?
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CatHedral
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Two observations. Wecan dismiss the Washington Examiner as having a dog in this hunt. Owned by a "conservative Christian" billionaire. Propaganda, and we have seen how disconnected from fact right-bias imitation reality is.Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources
The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.www.reuters.com
FBI finds little evidence Jan. 6 insurrection was organized attack: report
"There was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones ... to storm the Capitol and take hostages"
FBI confirms there was no insurrection on Jan. 6 - Washington Examiner
The Cambridge Dictionary defines “insurrection” as: “an organized attempt by a group of people to defeat their government and take control of their country, usually by violence” By that definition, there was no “insurrection” at the United States Capitol on Jan. 6, according to the FBI. Reuters...
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The second is that when you're hunting duck or turkey, you make sounds like "all is clear". The fowl is usually terminally surprised later. Someone can be using that paper to plant a soothing story that will induce the principals to leave more data. This one isn't dead by a long shot.
Someone posted a video of a former prosecutoranalyzing the Reuters release. It pretty much left Trump and minions holding the bag alone. So the folks at the DOJ might be lining up a buttload of dominos and waiting with teir breath held for the moment to tip the front one. I like watching those sorts of theings, except in terms of climate change.
the post was meant to make you (or others) look it up and learn the historical fact in order to understand the OP article was trolling trying to prove dems should have no patience and be blood-thirsty with DOJ (thereby making us no better than Trumpers). People willing to write articles screaming and crying hyperbole about DOJ and who get paid a living writing, should also know instead of whipping up readership.
i hope that made sense..Glueball #7..i lose myself.
i feel a real undeserved turn here for DOJ on 1/6 and Biden on Afghanistan.