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mooray

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Do you see the projection there? How you moved the goalpost from education to taxes and then accused myself of deflection?
 

Rob Roy

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Yes, you are not 100% free, but you're nowhere near a "slave" either and you throw out a serious word while undermining many people's hard life experiences like it's effin candy and you shit on them when you do that.
Slavery takes many forms. If you allow your oppressor / masters to be the ones that one the definition of words, you certainly won't ever get much freer.

I think that if you object to math and science and history and literature, then you're in effing lala land and Natural Light is probably your main form of daily nutrition.

This is a red herring.

I would probably need to be threatened with water boarding before consuming a Natural Lite.
 

mooray

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After almost 2 years, I’ve finally put the clown on ignore. Do yourself a favour.
I should. We never really make any progress. As soon as his points get cornered, he either checks out and disappears, or starts posting memes and offers nothing but silly comments.
 

Rob Roy

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I should. We never really make any progress. As soon as his points get cornered, he either checks out and disappears, or starts posting memes and offers nothing but silly comments.
That's a stale after the party Nattie Lite, with a couple of cigarette butts floating in it the next morning.
 

topcat

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I want him to spend the rest of his life behind bars, with no reduction of sentence for any reason, including good behavior. There's no parole in the Federal system. That's more satisfying and long lasting. Faced with that, he might do us a favor and take the coward's way out of this world.
 

Fogdog

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China's contracts tend to be neither symmetrical nor equitable. So I don't accept mutually satisfactory.

Signing something under pressure, and the Chinese are masters of subtle coercion, is not mutually agreeable.
Not to mention that kickbacks or bribes are how a lot of these contracts are made.

 

Fogdog

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I want him to spend the rest of his life behind bars, with no reduction of sentence for any reason, including good behavior. There's no parole in the Federal system. That's more satisfying and long lasting. Faced with that, he might do us a favor and take the coward's way out of this world.
There is no way Roof is innocent.

I'm against there being a death penalty due to the injustice inherent in our police and courts. But as long as they continue to execute others, it would be an injustice if Roof were NOT executed.
 

topcat

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There is no way Roof is innocent.

I'm against there being a death penalty due to the injustice inherent in our police and courts. But as long as they continue to execute others, it would be an injustice if Roof were NOT executed.
I'm against the death penalty. There have been too many innocent people executed. For the religious, they can look at Jesus of Nazareth. Life without freedom is satisfactory for murder.
 

CatHedral

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There is no way Roof is innocent.

I'm against there being a death penalty due to the injustice inherent in our police and courts. But as long as they continue to execute others, it would be an injustice if Roof were NOT executed.
I was once cool with the death penalty. Until someone explained to me that I had not considered a moral dimension. If we kill our worst offenders, what does that say about our society, both in prctice and in our ideals?

Add the practical dimension that a life sentence without parole is less expensive than a death penalty case.

There have been enough cases of an executed convict later being found innocent or doubtfully guilty. I donot even want one soul to be done that way by our judicial system. Humans make mistakes.
 

Fogdog

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I'm against the death penalty. There have been too many innocent people executed. For the religious, they can look at Jesus of Nazareth. Life without freedom is satisfactory for murder.
OK, so, I'm with you about the injustice in how the death penalty is applied, which should preclude the death sentence for anybody. However, killing Roof would not be an injustice. The death penalty is in effect and people are being executed. Why save him while executing others? Equal justice under the current law, to me, means Roof dies.

Change the laws for everybody or apply them in the same way to everybody.
 

Fogdog

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I was once cool with the death penalty. Until someone explained to me that I had not considered a moral dimension. If we kill our worst offenders, what does that say about our society, both in prctice and in our ideals?

Add the practical dimension that a life sentence without parole is less expensive than a death penalty case.

There have been enough cases of an executed convict later being found innocent or doubtfully guilty. I donot even want one soul to be done that way by our judicial system. Humans make mistakes.
How is it immoral to kill Roof while the state continues to execute others?
 

topcat

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OK, so, I'm with you about the injustice in how the death penalty is applied, which should preclude the death sentence for anybody. However, killing Roof would not be an injustice. The death penalty is in effect and people are being executed. Why save him while executing others? Equal justice under the current law, to me, means Roof dies.

Change the laws for everybody or apply them in the same way to everybody.
Because the death penalty is legal is not an excuse to continue the practice.
 

mooray

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I'd be for widening the crimes available for the death penalty in the cases where there's irrefutable proof. And it's not out of hate/anger, it's more out of euthanizing type of sadness. Like hardcore forcible rape caught on camera with an admission and dna evidence, it's just the right thing to do for everyone involved.
 
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