CunningCanuk
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Unlike the asshole you replied to, you care about more than yourself.
Will You Take The Vaccine?
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Roger A. Shrubber
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well, lets deal with this line by line...we're actually worried that people who don't get vaccinated will breed new variants that are harder to resist and get over.
you CAN still get covid if you have the vaccination, but you are MUCH less likely to get seriously ill or die, and you get over the whole thing a lot faster, NOT requiring an icu bed which are already in short supply.
each individual is different in some ways, but not in all ways...getting vaccinated can save your life, but more importantly, it can save the lives of all the people who you would infect when you don't get vaccinated...so, in effect, by not getting vaccinated, your choice removes the choices of others around you, their choice to not be infected by you, to not catch a new variant that has bred in your non vaccinated body, to not die, to not pass along this new variant that you helped to create with your choice....
DIY-HP-LED
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Some antivaxx sock (are there any other kind) was spouting bullshit here and Mentioned Robert Malone...
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SciCheck’s COVID-19/Vaccination Project
Researcher Distorts Facts on COVID-19 Vaccine Approval, Liability
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The Food and Drug Administration issued the first full approval for a COVID-19 vaccine on Aug. 23. The full licensure for Pfizer/BioNTech’s vaccine, called Comirnaty — specifically for those 16 and older — arrived some eight months after the vaccine first rolled out in the U.S. under an emergency use authorization.
An EUA is typically less stringent than the full licensure, which is called a biologics license application. But for the COVID-19 vaccine EUA, the FDA included some more rigorous requirements. The full licensure was based on more data from the phase 3 clinical trials, which monitored more than half of participants for at least four months after their second shots.
Online, the news of the FDA approval was in some circles met by claims trying to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the licensure. Some dubiously asserted federal officials had pulled a “bait and switch” on the public.
“FDA ‘playing bait and switch’ with Americans, tricking them into believing shots currently being offered have been granted full approval when they have not,” declared the headline on LeoHohmann.com, shared on Facebook more than 5,000 times, according to CrowdTangle analytics data.
The story cited an interview with Dr. Robert Malone, a scientist who claims he invented mRNA technology and who has cast doubt on the COVID-19 vaccines in recent months.
In an interview with political strategist Steve Bannon on Aug. 24, Malone misleadingly said that the fully licensed product is not yet available — even though federal officials say the licensed vaccine is the same formulation as, and interchangeable with, the vaccine authorized for emergency use. He then falsely claimed that the vaccine that is available carries with it different liability implications.
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Researcher Distorts Facts on COVID-19 Vaccine Approval, Liability - FactCheck.org
The Pfizer/BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine was fully approved by the Food and Drug Administration, though an emergency use authorization also remains in place. Dr. Robert Malone misleadingly said Americans are being offered the shot only under the latter and that it carried different liability...
www.factcheck.org
SciCheck’s COVID-19/Vaccination Project
Researcher Distorts Facts on COVID-19 Vaccine Approval, Liability
Full Story
The Food and Drug Administration issued the first full approval for a COVID-19 vaccine on Aug. 23. The full licensure for Pfizer/BioNTech’s vaccine, called Comirnaty — specifically for those 16 and older — arrived some eight months after the vaccine first rolled out in the U.S. under an emergency use authorization.
An EUA is typically less stringent than the full licensure, which is called a biologics license application. But for the COVID-19 vaccine EUA, the FDA included some more rigorous requirements. The full licensure was based on more data from the phase 3 clinical trials, which monitored more than half of participants for at least four months after their second shots.
Online, the news of the FDA approval was in some circles met by claims trying to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the licensure. Some dubiously asserted federal officials had pulled a “bait and switch” on the public.
“FDA ‘playing bait and switch’ with Americans, tricking them into believing shots currently being offered have been granted full approval when they have not,” declared the headline on LeoHohmann.com, shared on Facebook more than 5,000 times, according to CrowdTangle analytics data.
The story cited an interview with Dr. Robert Malone, a scientist who claims he invented mRNA technology and who has cast doubt on the COVID-19 vaccines in recent months.
In an interview with political strategist Steve Bannon on Aug. 24, Malone misleadingly said that the fully licensed product is not yet available — even though federal officials say the licensed vaccine is the same formulation as, and interchangeable with, the vaccine authorized for emergency use. He then falsely claimed that the vaccine that is available carries with it different liability implications.
More...
DIY-HP-LED
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Dying in the Name of Vaccine Freedom | NYT Opinion
In the video above, Alexander Stockton, a producer on the Opinion Video team, explores two of the main reasons the number of Covid cases is soaring once again in the United States: vaccine hesitancy and refusal.
“It’s hard to watch the pandemic drag on as Americans refuse the vaccine in the name of freedom,” he says.
Seeking understanding, Mr. Stockton travels to Mountain Home, Ark., in the Ozarks, a region with galloping contagion and — not unrelated — abysmal vaccination rates.
He finds that a range of feelings and beliefs underpins the low rates — including fear, skepticism and a libertarian strain of defiance.
This doubt even extends to the staff at a regional hospital, where about half of the medical personnel are not vaccinated — even while the intensive care unit is crowded with unvaccinated Covid patients fighting for their lives.
Mountain Home — like the United States as a whole — is caught in a tug of war between private liberty and public health. But Mr. Stockton suggests that unless government upholds its duty to protect Americans, keeping the common good in mind, this may be a battle with no end.
In the video above, Alexander Stockton, a producer on the Opinion Video team, explores two of the main reasons the number of Covid cases is soaring once again in the United States: vaccine hesitancy and refusal.
“It’s hard to watch the pandemic drag on as Americans refuse the vaccine in the name of freedom,” he says.
Seeking understanding, Mr. Stockton travels to Mountain Home, Ark., in the Ozarks, a region with galloping contagion and — not unrelated — abysmal vaccination rates.
He finds that a range of feelings and beliefs underpins the low rates — including fear, skepticism and a libertarian strain of defiance.
This doubt even extends to the staff at a regional hospital, where about half of the medical personnel are not vaccinated — even while the intensive care unit is crowded with unvaccinated Covid patients fighting for their lives.
Mountain Home — like the United States as a whole — is caught in a tug of war between private liberty and public health. But Mr. Stockton suggests that unless government upholds its duty to protect Americans, keeping the common good in mind, this may be a battle with no end.
CunningCanuk
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In other words, you can’t fix stupid. Not even with duct tape.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Shit, sounds horrific. Scary place.
DIY-HP-LED
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If they think they are short staffed at hospitals there now, wait a few months.
Dr.Amber Trichome
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Right . I remember seeing a job posted for that hospital a year ago and peaked at the area and I remember they were offering shit pay and the town looked super lame with nothing but psychos . Arkansas is a really weird state.
DIY-HP-LED
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CDC says no young adults died after reporting heart inflammation following COVID shots
The CDC says that no young adults who reported a type of heart inflammation called myocarditis after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine have died, Reuters reports.
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Roger A. Shrubber
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i'm really over trying to convince people, i'd just as soon they all just got it and dropped dead. the only real problem is that they'll be breeding new strains while they're dying...
otherwise, fuck em. you show them the evidence, the facts, the doctors saying do it, the people who don't do it dying, the people who get vaccinated getting it occasionally, but almost never dying...that you're more likely to get blood clots from the virus than you are from the vaccine, but they don't want to hear it, and i'm getting tired of saying it...
otherwise, fuck em. you show them the evidence, the facts, the doctors saying do it, the people who don't do it dying, the people who get vaccinated getting it occasionally, but almost never dying...that you're more likely to get blood clots from the virus than you are from the vaccine, but they don't want to hear it, and i'm getting tired of saying it...
DIY-HP-LED
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Fact-checkers rip apart new anti-vaxx conspiracies about Pfizer vaccines
A popular reason anti-vaxxers are using for avoiding availing themselves of the Pfizer vaccine aimed at protecting them from COVI-19 got the fact-check treatment from the Washington Post on Monday.On Aug. 24, Dr. Robert Malone, who bills himself as one of the researchers behind mRNA vaccines...
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DIY-HP-LED
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I'm afraid they will have to learn the hard way, I figure the only time some pop their heads outta their asses is to post shit here. That's why I often post articles to scare the shit out of them, or troll them with coming mandates, most are simply victims of bullshit and political tribalism based on and bound by racism. They are simply victims of their own paranoia, hatred, willful ignorance and plain stupidity, who were spoon feed lies about covid, the election and other things. They wanted to believe and swam through an ocean of truth and facts to get to their disinformation turd of choice, then eagerly horked the shit down. The doctors and nurses in hospitals can't convince many of them who are dying from covid and on oxygen, what chance do we have?
DIY-HP-LED
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I wonder where our regular sock went? Caught covid perhaps? One can hope!
DIY-HP-LED
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COVID-infected conservatives are being killed by their own 'industrial outrage complex': SE Cupp
On CNN Tuesday, conservative pundit S. E. Cupp weighed in on the recent reports of anti-vaccine right-wing talk radio hosts dying of COVID-19, including Tennessee's Phil Valentine and Florida's self-styled "Mr. Anti-Vax" Marc Bernier."Given this new trend in what we're seeing, is there any...
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COVID-infected conservatives are being killed by their own 'industrial outrage complex': SE Cupp
DIY-HP-LED
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WATCH: Fistfight breaks out after Florida anti-masker assaults doctor outside school board meeting
An anti-mask protester appeared to assault a doctor outside a school board meeting in Lee County, Florida on Monday night. Then, as a reporter from NBC Channel 2 tried to interview the doctor about the alleged assault, a fistfight broke out. The incident occurred outside district headquarters...
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WATCH: Fistfight breaks out after Florida anti-masker assaults doctor outside school board meeting
DIY-HP-LED
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How the authoritarians among us will react to vaccine mandates
I want to pick up on Friday's newsletter in which I said civil society, especially businesses, is now asserting itself in the fight against the covid. Among others, Delta, Apple, Microsoft and recently Duke University are telling employees to get vaccinated or get another job. The president...
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hanimmal
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Brainwashed idiots. The doctors reaction was a classic example of what sanity looks like when surrounded by crazy.WATCH: Fistfight breaks out after Florida anti-masker assaults doctor outside school board meeting
An anti-mask protester appeared to assault a doctor outside a school board meeting in Lee County, Florida on Monday night. Then, as a reporter from NBC Channel 2 tried to interview the doctor about the alleged assault, a fistfight broke out. The incident occurred outside district headquarters...
WATCH: Fistfight breaks out after Florida anti-masker assaults doctor outside school board meeting
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Georgia anti-vaxxers shut down mobile vaccine event
The office of Georgia Public Health Commissioner Kathleen Toomey told the newspaper Monday that public health staff at vaccination drives "have been harassed, yelled at, threatened and demeaned by some of the very members of the public they were trying to help." At a press conference Monday, Toomey said they had also received hostile and harassing emails.
"This is wrong. This is absolutely wrong," Toomey said, according to the Macon Telegraph. "These people are giving their lives to help others. We should be thanking them for trying to get life-saving vaccines to our state."
The mobile vaccination event that was shut down was set to take place in north Georgia, where a group of protestors showed up to harass public health professionals, according to the Journal-Constitution.
Nancy Nydam, Toomey's spokeswoman, told the newspaper that "aside from feeling threatened themselves, staff realized no one would want to come to that location for a vaccination under those circumstances, so they packed up and left."
Toomey said the harassment "comes with the territory to someone in my position" but that "it shouldn't be happening to those nurses who are working to try to keep this state safe," according to the Journal-Constitution.
The confrontations in Georgia are the latest in a series of incidents in which anti-vaccine and anti-mask protestors have publicly harassed and berated health care workers.
thehill.com
The office of Georgia Public Health Commissioner Kathleen Toomey told the newspaper Monday that public health staff at vaccination drives "have been harassed, yelled at, threatened and demeaned by some of the very members of the public they were trying to help." At a press conference Monday, Toomey said they had also received hostile and harassing emails.
"This is wrong. This is absolutely wrong," Toomey said, according to the Macon Telegraph. "These people are giving their lives to help others. We should be thanking them for trying to get life-saving vaccines to our state."
The mobile vaccination event that was shut down was set to take place in north Georgia, where a group of protestors showed up to harass public health professionals, according to the Journal-Constitution.
Nancy Nydam, Toomey's spokeswoman, told the newspaper that "aside from feeling threatened themselves, staff realized no one would want to come to that location for a vaccination under those circumstances, so they packed up and left."
Toomey said the harassment "comes with the territory to someone in my position" but that "it shouldn't be happening to those nurses who are working to try to keep this state safe," according to the Journal-Constitution.
The confrontations in Georgia are the latest in a series of incidents in which anti-vaccine and anti-mask protestors have publicly harassed and berated health care workers.
Georgia anti-vaxxers shut down mobile vaccine event
Anti-vaccine protestors in Georgia have disrupted several mobile COVID-19 vaccination drives and caused one to shut down completely, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.The office of Georgia …
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DIY-HP-LED
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Those that want vaccines can get them with little difficulty, even if they have to go to a pharmacy or a doctor. This is suicidal behavior, but it is also terrorism and fits the definition and should be prosecuted federally as such, let them deal with the legal bills. This was no mere protest, but crossed several lines and the FBI should investigate, you cannot tolerate this kind of bullshit. Using violence to affect policy is terrorism, as is making death threats against election and public health officials, the top targets on the republicans list. If the federal government doesn't step on these assholes you won't have any public health officials and all the election officials will be racist liars and cheats.Georgia anti-vaxxers shut down mobile vaccine event
The office of Georgia Public Health Commissioner Kathleen Toomey told the newspaper Monday that public health staff at vaccination drives "have been harassed, yelled at, threatened and demeaned by some of the very members of the public they were trying to help." At a press conference Monday, Toomey said they had also received hostile and harassing emails.
"This is wrong. This is absolutely wrong," Toomey said, according to the Macon Telegraph. "These people are giving their lives to help others. We should be thanking them for trying to get life-saving vaccines to our state."
The mobile vaccination event that was shut down was set to take place in north Georgia, where a group of protestors showed up to harass public health professionals, according to the Journal-Constitution.
Nancy Nydam, Toomey's spokeswoman, told the newspaper that "aside from feeling threatened themselves, staff realized no one would want to come to that location for a vaccination under those circumstances, so they packed up and left."
Toomey said the harassment "comes with the territory to someone in my position" but that "it shouldn't be happening to those nurses who are working to try to keep this state safe," according to the Journal-Constitution.
The confrontations in Georgia are the latest in a series of incidents in which anti-vaccine and anti-mask protestors have publicly harassed and berated health care workers.
Georgia anti-vaxxers shut down mobile vaccine event
Anti-vaccine protestors in Georgia have disrupted several mobile COVID-19 vaccination drives and caused one to shut down completely, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.The office of Georgia …