Hempy transplant question

Earlytoker

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Ive been looking into hempy buckets and whatnot and i was thinkin bout
tryin one out. Im just wonderin like say i start it out in a 16 oz cup then
transplant to 3 gal. Would it be hard to transplant? Cuz perlites all loose
an stuff, will it just fall out or will the roots kinda hold the perlite in place? :confused:
 

Breakdancer003

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i found an easy way to transplant is to flush the soil with around 5 X the amount of water that their is soil ( not if you are using MG pre nuted soil but u shouldn't be so ... ) so 1 gallon container = 5 gallons of water then with the soil wet and a decent root system in place assumming your container is larger at the topthen at the bottom it should slide out in a perfect shape much like spam out of the can then just transplant it but dont forget to re water it with lite nutes and then just let the soil dry out and u should be fine this avoids breaking roots and causing your plant ot go into shock or die but if you are transplanting a small plant it might not have the root structure so i wouldn't start in such a small container unless your trying to grow like 100 of them and need to save the space i personnaly started out in a 5 gallon gorw bag right off the bat no problem and that avoids transplanting at all ( this is for seed appilcations not clones )
 

shnkrmn

Well-Known Member
Ive been looking into hempy buckets and whatnot and i was thinkin bout
tryin one out. Im just wonderin like say i start it out in a 16 oz cup then
transplant to 3 gal. Would it be hard to transplant? Cuz perlites all loose
an stuff, will it just fall out or will the roots kinda hold the perlite in place? :confused:
I've transplanted in hempy with no problems. If the roots are well developed, most of the perlite will remain in the shape of the container you removed it from. But plenty of times, either the roots hadn't completely filled the container or I just handled it carelessly, but much of the perlite falls away leaving you with a lot of bare roots. No problem, the perlite falls away so gently that it doesn't hurt the roots. I just plunk it into the new container and backfill with more perlite. I have never seen anything like transplant shock regardless of what happened during the transfer. Hempy rocks in this respect (as well as many others).
 

Earlytoker

Well-Known Member
i found an easy way to transplant is to flush the soil with around 5 X the amount of water that their is soil ( not if you are using MG pre nuted soil but u shouldn't be so ... ) so 1 gallon container = 5 gallons of water then with the soil wet and a decent root system in place assumming your container is larger at the topthen at the bottom it should slide out in a perfect shape much like spam out of the can then just transplant it but dont forget to re water it with lite nutes and then just let the soil dry out and u should be fine this avoids breaking roots and causing your plant ot go into shock or die but if you are transplanting a small plant it might not have the root structure so i wouldn't start in such a small container unless your trying to grow like 100 of them and need to save the space i personnaly started out in a 5 gallon gorw bag right off the bat no problem and that avoids transplanting at all ( this is for seed appilcations not clones )
I asked about hempy buckets dude..100% perlite soilless medium
 

Earlytoker

Well-Known Member
I've transplanted in hempy with no problems. If the roots are well developed, most of the perlite will remain in the shape of the container you removed it from. But plenty of times, either the roots hadn't completely filled the container or I just handled it carelessly, but much of the perlite falls away leaving you with a lot of bare roots. No problem, the perlite falls away so gently that it doesn't hurt the roots. I just plunk it into the new container and backfill with more perlite. I have never seen anything like transplant shock regardless of what happened during the transfer. Hempy rocks in this respect (as well as many others).
As a first time grower would i have a better grow (in your opinon) with
a hempy or with soil, reason i ask is only soils i can find are pre nuted booshat
 

Breakdancer003

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i think as a first time grower you will do just fine with either as long as you have done your research but if your lazy soil is the easyest not to fuck up as far as finding a good soil mix have you only looked at meijers and other chain super stores ? do a quick google search for hydroponic stores near you they will have what you need. and if their arn't any then flower shops nurserys the list goes on
 

morrisgreenberg

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I've transplanted in hempy with no problems. If the roots are well developed, most of the perlite will remain in the shape of the container you removed it from. But plenty of times, either the roots hadn't completely filled the container or I just handled it carelessly, but much of the perlite falls away leaving you with a lot of bare roots. No problem, the perlite falls away so gently that it doesn't hurt the roots. I just plunk it into the new container and backfill with more perlite. I have never seen anything like transplant shock regardless of what happened during the transfer. Hempy rocks in this respect (as well as many others).
dude i totally agree, i experimented with a dozen clones hempy style and the roots are so vigorous, what a difference, the hempy buckets give your root system a hydro effect, and you also like hydro control nutes from the outset
 

shnkrmn

Well-Known Member
As a first time grower would i have a better grow (in your opinon) with
a hempy or with soil, reason i ask is only soils i can find are pre nuted booshat

I've fucked up both ways! They both have their pitfalls. But I like hempy. Here's why:

Number 1 noob error is overwatering. YOU CAN'T DO THIS IN HEMPY. It's not a problem.

Number 2 noob error is overfertilizing. This is easy to do in any medium, but a lot easier to rectify in hydro or soilless, because you can flush much, much more thoroughly.

Lots of people here have grown successfully with pre-nuted soils like Miracle Grow. I haven't done it, but I think the key is to not use other nutes. Most people who have problems with MG are adding other MJ-specific nutrients which, combined with the MG, result in overfertilization. I'm basing this on threads I have read here, not on personal experience, but the same story comes out over and over.

I would say get a soil grow under your belt. Go ahead and use MG or whatever you are finding (I'm sure if you look a little more, you can find clean, unjuiced potting soil, though). I would mix that about 60/40 with perlite to increase drainage and help keep you from overwatering.

Fine out about the water you are using. If it's tap water, find out from the city what its characteristics are (this shouldn't be hard, or suspicious); pH and TDS (total Dissolved Solids). If you water's pH is between 5.8 and 7.0 and TDS is under 150 ppm, you can use that. If not, consider using RO water.

On the other hand, my first grow was in shitty potting soil, using really bad city water and no understanding of plant needs. The three females I ended up with looked like shit, never smelled during flowering and were kind of puny but I ended up with over 4 ounces of cured, hard nugs which was some of the best smoke I'd ever had.

Anyway, your first grow is going to be a big learning experience. Plenty of folks here don't even get to harvest that first time. Keep it simple and don't be too hard on yourself. Most important, don't love your plants to death!
 

tmbt

Active Member
Hi Earlytoker,
there is no need to trasplant.
Start your hempy bucket in a PLASTIC 16 oz cup.
As soon as u want to trasplant just cut the entire bottom of the cup and place the plastic cup in the new 3gal bucket. If you check the Hempy Collective thread carefully you will find some pics of what i'm saying.

Peace
 

Earlytoker

Well-Known Member
Btw can i use my foxfarm 3 pack of nutes of a hempy? If so
when should i start, first sign of deficiency?
 

tmbt

Active Member
Hi Earlytoker,
i never used Foxfarm because i m not able to find foxfarm where i live.
I always use General Hidroponics nuts (3 parts) and the Lucas formula.
Hempy bucket is a passive hydro so every hydro nuts are ok. I read anyway that is possible to use soil nuts also but i cannot remember for sure.
Keep in mind that perlite is an inorganic medium so the plant will not be able to find any nuts inside. Water the plants every day (only water) (i usually add a product to increase root stimulation after the first week of life) for the first 2 week. Than start feeding using 1/8 of the normal quantity.
Slight increase the feeding and keep ph around 6 - 6.5 or u will have a nutrient lockout.


Peace
 
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