it's a $10k bounty to report your neighbors and why stop at abortions..?
see? you already got the idea..it wouldn't happen for vaccinations because 'it's your body'.
Is a reversal of Roe v Wade decision next?
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see? you already got the idea..it wouldn't happen for vaccinations because 'it's your body'.
Rurumo
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Well, they just energized Democrats for the next election cycle, the Repubes are going to have to double down on election fraud and gerrymandering to prop up their minority party. Getting out of Afghanistan will be a net positive for Biden in the end, even my Trump loving family members are happy about it, and AMAZED he had the guts to do it. Bush, Obama, and especially Trump, who made an Afghan withdrawal a KEY CAMPAIGN PROMISE, are all cowards.
the $10k is for a successful prosecution. not just for a report.
believe it or not Obama really wanted to 'but the generals'..he was no match for military complex like 'take you behind the shed' Biden.
leaving is leaving and this is exactly what would've happened with any other president or worse.
i'm happy.
there should be a special memorial for the 13.
hanimmal
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Also let's be real. All the Barrack "Hussein" Obama fear mongering was a set up for him to not be able to stop the warmongering without severe backlash.
Also all the white supremacist shit to come out the last couple years shows how tough of a situation it really was.
Im pretty happy that they had the couple month stand-down to root out the racist shit as soon as Biden took over. I would have hated to see the way they could have sabotaged the withdraw if you had a bunch of the serial killers like Trump pardoned over there.
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Florida Lawmakers Looking at Duplicating Texas Abortion Limits: Report
Republican legislative leaders in Florida indicated Thursday they plan to look at whether their state can enact similar restrictions.
According to a report by WUWF public radio in northwest Florida, Senate President Wilton Simpson, R-Trilby, referred to the Texas law as “a new approach,” and he called the Supreme Court’s 5-4 ruling allowing the measure to stand “encouraging.”
House Speaker Chris Sprowls, R-Palm Harbor, apparently weighed in on the same hot topic. He issued a statement saying he expects the abortion issue to be pursued during the 2022 legislative session, which is set to start in January.
“In Florida, we agree that killing an innocent human being with a beating heart is wrong,” Sprowls said in the statement, as reported by the station. “It is why we have worked every session to strengthen protections for unborn babies, including those for unborn children with disabilities last session."
Texas' law outlawing abortions after six weeks was widely panned by Democrats including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Joe Biden. Those criticisms were reiterated by state Democratic lawmakers, who quickly condemned the Supreme Court decision and Republican leaders for considering bringing similar strict regulation to Florida.
“More jaw-dropping hypocrisy from FL’s GOP ‘leaders’ who say it is their choice to wear a mask, but not a woman's choice what to do with her body,” Sen. Janet Cruz, D-Tampa, tweeted. The tweet referred to staunch opposition to mask mandates during the COVID-19 pandemic by Republicans including Gov. Ron DeSantis.
According to the radio report, DeSantis told reporters in West Palm Beach on Thursday he welcomes legislation to restrict abortions, but he added that the Supreme Court decision might not have been a “substantive ruling.” While the Supreme Court refused to block the Texas law from taking effect, it did not rule on the underlying constitutional issues. Still in place are the precedents of the landmark court ruling known as Roe v. Wade, although critics of the Texas law and high court's latest action insist this is a prelude to the conservative-majority Supreme Court gutting Roe entirely
“They (justices) basically said it's not ripe yet for a decision, that if it ends up going, then you could consider it at that time,” DeSantis said when asked if he would support a measure like Texas'.
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Republican legislative leaders in Florida indicated Thursday they plan to look at whether their state can enact similar restrictions.
According to a report by WUWF public radio in northwest Florida, Senate President Wilton Simpson, R-Trilby, referred to the Texas law as “a new approach,” and he called the Supreme Court’s 5-4 ruling allowing the measure to stand “encouraging.”
House Speaker Chris Sprowls, R-Palm Harbor, apparently weighed in on the same hot topic. He issued a statement saying he expects the abortion issue to be pursued during the 2022 legislative session, which is set to start in January.
“In Florida, we agree that killing an innocent human being with a beating heart is wrong,” Sprowls said in the statement, as reported by the station. “It is why we have worked every session to strengthen protections for unborn babies, including those for unborn children with disabilities last session."
Texas' law outlawing abortions after six weeks was widely panned by Democrats including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Joe Biden. Those criticisms were reiterated by state Democratic lawmakers, who quickly condemned the Supreme Court decision and Republican leaders for considering bringing similar strict regulation to Florida.
“More jaw-dropping hypocrisy from FL’s GOP ‘leaders’ who say it is their choice to wear a mask, but not a woman's choice what to do with her body,” Sen. Janet Cruz, D-Tampa, tweeted. The tweet referred to staunch opposition to mask mandates during the COVID-19 pandemic by Republicans including Gov. Ron DeSantis.
According to the radio report, DeSantis told reporters in West Palm Beach on Thursday he welcomes legislation to restrict abortions, but he added that the Supreme Court decision might not have been a “substantive ruling.” While the Supreme Court refused to block the Texas law from taking effect, it did not rule on the underlying constitutional issues. Still in place are the precedents of the landmark court ruling known as Roe v. Wade, although critics of the Texas law and high court's latest action insist this is a prelude to the conservative-majority Supreme Court gutting Roe entirely
“They (justices) basically said it's not ripe yet for a decision, that if it ends up going, then you could consider it at that time,” DeSantis said when asked if he would support a measure like Texas'.
Florida Lawmakers Looking at Duplicating Texas Abortion Limits: Report
The Texas abortion law banning almost all abortions in the state already appears to be having a ripple effect.Republican legislative leaders in Florida indicated Thursday they plan to look at whether their state can enact similar restrictions.According to a report by WUWF...
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Okla. reported demand for abortions in August before Texas bill went into effect
Trust Women — an organization that operates two abortion clinics in Wichita and Oklahoma City — said it had already started seeing an increase in Texans requesting appointments in the weeks before the bill was enacted. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) signed the legislation in May.
"In the weeks before Texas’ de facto abortion ban, SB 8, went into effect, Trust Women clinics in Oklahoma City and Wichita were already seeing an increase in appointments from Texas patients seeking essential abortion care," the group wrote in a press release.
"Our clinics remain open and ready to provide quality, compassionate abortion care to everyone who needs it, regardless of ability to pay," it added.
Trust Women’s Oklahoma City clinic, which is more than 100 miles away from the state’s border with Texas, had already scheduled abortion-related appointments for roughly 40 people from Texas as of Tuesday, The 19th reported, citing spokesperson Zack Gingrich-Gaylord.
The group’s Wichita clinic, which is nearly 300 miles away from the Texas border, already had 10 visits booked for people from Texas by the end of August.
While the group’s locations do normally perform abortions for Texans, Gingrich-Gaylord said those numbers represent a significant increase from typical levels. “We’ll obviously continue to try to add more capacity, but it’s already a sign of the coming wave that we’re looking that far out,” he added.
Joan Lamunyon Sanford — leader of the New Mexico Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, which helps people financially if they travel to the state for abortions — told the outlet that they are “planning on a large increase [in calls] starting late this week and next week.”
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Trust Women — an organization that operates two abortion clinics in Wichita and Oklahoma City — said it had already started seeing an increase in Texans requesting appointments in the weeks before the bill was enacted. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) signed the legislation in May.
"In the weeks before Texas’ de facto abortion ban, SB 8, went into effect, Trust Women clinics in Oklahoma City and Wichita were already seeing an increase in appointments from Texas patients seeking essential abortion care," the group wrote in a press release.
"Our clinics remain open and ready to provide quality, compassionate abortion care to everyone who needs it, regardless of ability to pay," it added.
Trust Women’s Oklahoma City clinic, which is more than 100 miles away from the state’s border with Texas, had already scheduled abortion-related appointments for roughly 40 people from Texas as of Tuesday, The 19th reported, citing spokesperson Zack Gingrich-Gaylord.
The group’s Wichita clinic, which is nearly 300 miles away from the Texas border, already had 10 visits booked for people from Texas by the end of August.
While the group’s locations do normally perform abortions for Texans, Gingrich-Gaylord said those numbers represent a significant increase from typical levels. “We’ll obviously continue to try to add more capacity, but it’s already a sign of the coming wave that we’re looking that far out,” he added.
Joan Lamunyon Sanford — leader of the New Mexico Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice, which helps people financially if they travel to the state for abortions — told the outlet that they are “planning on a large increase [in calls] starting late this week and next week.”
States near Texas reported demand for abortions in August
Clinics in Oklahoma and Kansas were already experiencing an increased demand for abortions before the controversial bill in Texas went into effect on Wednesday. Trust Women — an orga…
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Stephen King buries Susan Collins: ‘Women in Texas must pay the price for her gullibility’
Famous Bangor resident and bestselling author Stephen King on Thursday slammed his home-state's senior senator after the United States Supreme Court refused to block the controversial anti-abortion law passed by Texas Republicans.Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) voted to confirm Brett Kavanaugh to the...
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Multiple GOP-Led States See Texas Law as Model to Curb Abortions
Republican states that have passed increasingly tough abortion restrictions only to see them blocked by the federal courts have a new template in an unusually written Texas law that represents the most far-reaching curb on abortions in nearly half a century.
On Thursday, Republican lawmakers in at least half a dozen states said they planned to introduce bills using the Texas law as a model, hoping it provides a pathway to enacting the kind of abortion limits they have sought for years.
In Mississippi, Republican state Sen. Chris McDaniel said he would “absolutely” consider filing legislation to match the Texas law after a sharply divided U.S. Supreme Court let it stand, 5-4.
“I think most conservative states in the South will look at this inaction by the court and will see that as perhaps a chance to move on that issue,” he said.
The Texas law, which took effect Wednesday, prohibits abortions once medical professionals can detect cardiac activity, usually around six weeks and before many women know they’re pregnant.
While a dozen states have tried to enact bans early in pregnancy, those laws have been blocked by courts. But Texas may have found a way around federal court limits by enacting an unusual enforcement scheme that authorizes private citizens to file lawsuits in state court against abortion providers and anyone involved in aiding an abortion, including someone who drives a woman to a clinic.
The law includes a minimum award of $10,000 for a successful lawsuit, but does not have government officials criminally enforce the law.
In addition to Mississippi, GOP lawmakers and abortion opponents in at least five other Republican-controlled states — Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, North Dakota and South Dakota — said they were considering pushing bills similar to the Texas law and its citizen-enforcement provision.
“Even though you may have pro-life legislators, you do not always have pro-life bureaucrats who are willing to do enforcement inspections,” said Indiana state Sen. Liz Brown, a Republican who has been the sponsor of several anti-abortion bills adopted in recent years.
Republicans for years have turned to statehouses in conservative states to find new ways to erode abortion rights enshrined by the high court’s landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade decision. The Supreme Court — at least for now — has cleared a path forward for them.
“We’re excited, and we really do think that the heartbeat bill strategy is working," said Blaine Conzatti, president of the Idaho Family Policy Center, which opposes abortions.
Idaho passed a law this year with restrictions similar to those in Texas, but it will only go into effect if a U.S. appeals court upholds another state's law, a condition that has not been met.
Arkansas state Sen. Jason Rapert on Thursday tweeted that he planned to file legislation mirroring Texas’ law when lawmakers reconvene this fall. The Republican lawmaker sponsored a 2013 “heartbeat” abortion ban that was later struck down by federal courts and another outright ban enacted this year that a federal judge has blocked.
Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson, a Republican, said the state should wait until the more stringent anti-abortion Arkansas law receives a final judgment.
Hutchinson called the court’s ruling on Texas’ law a “procedural victory” for abortion opponents, but said it doesn’t reflect the court’s view on whether Roe v. Wade should be reversed. Overturning that decision is abortion opponents’ foremost goal.
In Tennessee, Stacy Dunn, the president of Tennessee Right to Life, said she is hopeful the Supreme Court's decision to allow the Texas law to go in effect means the high court will rule to reverse Roe. Ten states, including Tennessee, have laws that would effectively outlaw most abortions should Roe v. Wade be overturned.
“This Texas law could be a ray of light at the end of a very long and dark tunnel, and our state is ready,” Dunn said in a statement.
Democrats also anticipated the Supreme Court’s new conservative majority overturning Roe, although they fear a ruling striking it down would leave old state laws outlawing abortions in effect.
“Reproductive freedom in our state is built on case law,” said New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy, a Democrat, as he pushed for state lawmakers to enact a bill that would enshrine access to abortions.
“All of that case law is in turn built on the Supreme Court’s decision on Roe v. Wade. If the foundation of that series of case laws is impacted, impaired, taken away, the entire reality in our state falls like a house of cards, which is why we need to, as soon as possible, put this protection into statute."
In New Mexico, Democratic state Rep. Patricia Roybal Caballero of Albuquerque said she was angered by the Texas law because it might lead to underground abortion procedures that endanger the lives of women unable to find clinics offering safe protocols for the practice.
Roybal Caballero, a “Catholic for choice” in her words, wants New Mexico to provide safe passage to anyone seeking medical care, including abortion procedures that she believes should be a matter of personal choice. A clinic in Albuquerque is one of only a few independent facilities in the country that perform abortions close to the third trimester without conditions.
“We don’t want to go back to the 1960s and 1970s underground days of illegal abortions," she said. "It’s our decision. And if it’s going to be our decision, it should be a safe and healthy outcome.”
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Republican states that have passed increasingly tough abortion restrictions only to see them blocked by the federal courts have a new template in an unusually written Texas law that represents the most far-reaching curb on abortions in nearly half a century.
On Thursday, Republican lawmakers in at least half a dozen states said they planned to introduce bills using the Texas law as a model, hoping it provides a pathway to enacting the kind of abortion limits they have sought for years.
In Mississippi, Republican state Sen. Chris McDaniel said he would “absolutely” consider filing legislation to match the Texas law after a sharply divided U.S. Supreme Court let it stand, 5-4.
“I think most conservative states in the South will look at this inaction by the court and will see that as perhaps a chance to move on that issue,” he said.
The Texas law, which took effect Wednesday, prohibits abortions once medical professionals can detect cardiac activity, usually around six weeks and before many women know they’re pregnant.
While a dozen states have tried to enact bans early in pregnancy, those laws have been blocked by courts. But Texas may have found a way around federal court limits by enacting an unusual enforcement scheme that authorizes private citizens to file lawsuits in state court against abortion providers and anyone involved in aiding an abortion, including someone who drives a woman to a clinic.
The law includes a minimum award of $10,000 for a successful lawsuit, but does not have government officials criminally enforce the law.
In addition to Mississippi, GOP lawmakers and abortion opponents in at least five other Republican-controlled states — Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, North Dakota and South Dakota — said they were considering pushing bills similar to the Texas law and its citizen-enforcement provision.
“Even though you may have pro-life legislators, you do not always have pro-life bureaucrats who are willing to do enforcement inspections,” said Indiana state Sen. Liz Brown, a Republican who has been the sponsor of several anti-abortion bills adopted in recent years.
Republicans for years have turned to statehouses in conservative states to find new ways to erode abortion rights enshrined by the high court’s landmark 1973 Roe v. Wade decision. The Supreme Court — at least for now — has cleared a path forward for them.
“We’re excited, and we really do think that the heartbeat bill strategy is working," said Blaine Conzatti, president of the Idaho Family Policy Center, which opposes abortions.
Idaho passed a law this year with restrictions similar to those in Texas, but it will only go into effect if a U.S. appeals court upholds another state's law, a condition that has not been met.
Arkansas state Sen. Jason Rapert on Thursday tweeted that he planned to file legislation mirroring Texas’ law when lawmakers reconvene this fall. The Republican lawmaker sponsored a 2013 “heartbeat” abortion ban that was later struck down by federal courts and another outright ban enacted this year that a federal judge has blocked.
Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson, a Republican, said the state should wait until the more stringent anti-abortion Arkansas law receives a final judgment.
Hutchinson called the court’s ruling on Texas’ law a “procedural victory” for abortion opponents, but said it doesn’t reflect the court’s view on whether Roe v. Wade should be reversed. Overturning that decision is abortion opponents’ foremost goal.
In Tennessee, Stacy Dunn, the president of Tennessee Right to Life, said she is hopeful the Supreme Court's decision to allow the Texas law to go in effect means the high court will rule to reverse Roe. Ten states, including Tennessee, have laws that would effectively outlaw most abortions should Roe v. Wade be overturned.
“This Texas law could be a ray of light at the end of a very long and dark tunnel, and our state is ready,” Dunn said in a statement.
Democrats also anticipated the Supreme Court’s new conservative majority overturning Roe, although they fear a ruling striking it down would leave old state laws outlawing abortions in effect.
“Reproductive freedom in our state is built on case law,” said New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy, a Democrat, as he pushed for state lawmakers to enact a bill that would enshrine access to abortions.
“All of that case law is in turn built on the Supreme Court’s decision on Roe v. Wade. If the foundation of that series of case laws is impacted, impaired, taken away, the entire reality in our state falls like a house of cards, which is why we need to, as soon as possible, put this protection into statute."
In New Mexico, Democratic state Rep. Patricia Roybal Caballero of Albuquerque said she was angered by the Texas law because it might lead to underground abortion procedures that endanger the lives of women unable to find clinics offering safe protocols for the practice.
Roybal Caballero, a “Catholic for choice” in her words, wants New Mexico to provide safe passage to anyone seeking medical care, including abortion procedures that she believes should be a matter of personal choice. A clinic in Albuquerque is one of only a few independent facilities in the country that perform abortions close to the third trimester without conditions.
“We don’t want to go back to the 1960s and 1970s underground days of illegal abortions," she said. "It’s our decision. And if it’s going to be our decision, it should be a safe and healthy outcome.”
Multiple GOP-Led States See Texas Law as Model to Curb Abortions
Republican states that have passed increasingly tough abortion restrictions only to see them blocked by the federal courts have a new template in an unusually written Texas law that represents the most far-reaching curb on abortions in nearly half a century.On Thursday,...
Rob Roy
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Should people be forced to fund ideas they don't support ? That's the underlying question that should be asked.
DIY-HP-LED
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Yes, we do it all the time, just because you have a personal preference means nothing, unless you enact it into law and policy. Otherwise ya go along with those who do, like it or not. The problem with not being involved in politics, is that you are ruled by your inferiors, or so it seems.
Rob Roy
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The problem with politics is it sanctions using coercion. We can do better. Put your gun down.
HGCC
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It isnt really a should, but as part of a society we agree to pay taxes and those fund whatever society as a whole opts to spend it on. (Yes...that somewhat ignores real world of no bid contracts and such)
I dont care for the military or police, yet I toss my tax dollars into the collective pool that funds them. I can protest against that and advocate for how I want that tax money spent, same as the abortion people. People are free to counter protest.
I do have to say though, I seriously doubt the abortion protesters go away over a tax win. They are on a moral crusade.
why travel when you have a perfectly good kitchen table here?
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Rob Roy
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I'm not a fan of abortion, but my disapproval doesn't create a right for me to intervene in matters that don't concern me.
There will be no abortions on my kitchen table, only a vase filled with flowers.