California Gubernatorial Recall Election

BodegaBud

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I do not see anyone in the USA promoting communism. Your refusal to post a concrete example is pretty damning, as is your assignment of “social democrat” policies to outright Communists. I think you may be one of the misguided souls who believes there is a far left movement of any consequence in the States,
and so just another troll.

So people being on unemployment for over a year and houses being commandeered by the government so people could live for free and get money through the mail is what them? A “ Passive break?” Come one now. We all know it’s a hustle and the job market is begging people to work
 

PJ Diaz

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Why is it my responsibility to take care of your kids? Why are you having kids you can’t afford? Do I also have to take care of your dog and water your lawn? Every handout we give costs is more money that could go to something that benefits everybody instead of just the ones who don’t contribute
Do you not believe in social safety nets? Everyone's reality is different, but perhaps someone had kids when they could afford them, and then they got in a debilitating accident which drained their savings, and they could no longer work. Would you just have the family cast out to the streets to starve? I don't believe that would make for a positive society.
 

BodegaBud

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Summer long protests because of Trump's embracing of killer cops and hate monger pandering like his pardoning of genocidal maniacs while sending in federal goons to attack peaceful protesters because of a handful of white natinoalists using the protests as a backdrop to bust shit up?

600k+ dead due to a virus that would magically disappear?

Yeah right.

Yeah I saw all those peaceful protesters looting and burning down entire towns while the governors told the cops to stand down. What happened last year was anything but peaceful.
 

BodegaBud

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Do you not believe in social safety nets? Everyone's reality is different, but perhaps someone had kids when they could afford them, and then they got in a debilitating accident which drained their savings, and they could no longer work. Would you just have the family cast out to the streets to starve? I don't believe that would make for a positive society.

But that should be the exception and a program that is strongly scrutinized case by case. Not just a free for all like it is now
 

hanimmal

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Yeah I saw all those peaceful protesters looting and burning down entire towns while the governors told the cops to stand down. What happened last year was anything but peaceful.
I am sure you were spammed that enough that you actually believe it.

Trump was POTUS last year is the entire point.
 

Grandpapy

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Why is it my responsibility to take care of your kids? Why are you having kids you can’t afford? Do I also have to take care of your dog and water your lawn? Every handout we give costs is more money that could go to something that benefits everybody instead of just the ones who don’t contribute
I'm pretty sure your tax dollars are funding a Sewage plant at the state and fed level.
 

PJ Diaz

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But that should be the exception and a program that is strongly scrutinized case by case. Not just a free for all like it is now
So, only that one exception? How about an exception for when someone gets a disease which causes them to be unable to work, or even just a simple disability which becomes onset and limits one's ability to sustain their income?

Or how about when an employer mandates a vaccine and the employee refuses and loses their job? You think they should just either rot in the streets or choose to get the jab? Inquiring minds want to know?
 

BodegaBud

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I am sure you were spammed that enough that you actually believe it.

Trump was POTUS last year is the entire point.

And he wanted to send in the Nat Guard to contain the looters and rioters but was met with resistance. That’s not protesting. That’s terrorism
 

BodegaBud

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So, only that one exception? How about an exception for when someone gets a disease which causes them to be unable to work, or even just a simple disability which becomes onset and limits one's ability to sustain their income?



Or how about when an employer mandates a vaccine and the employee refuses and loses their job? You think they should just either rot in the streets or choose to get the jab? Inquiring minds want to know?


I am saying it should be case by case and limited. There are plenty of able bodied adults that choose not to work. That’s fine but don’t expect everybody to pay your way
 

Grandpapy

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So people being on unemployment for over a year and houses being commandeered by the government so people could live for free and get money through the mail is what them? A “ Passive break?” Come one now. We all know it’s a hustle and the job market is begging people to work
Shame Trump couldn't come up with an Infrastructure Plan as he stated in the beginning.
 

CatHedral

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So people being on unemployment for over a year and houses being commandeered by the government so people could live for free and get money through the mail is what them? A “ Passive break?” Come one now. We all know it’s a hustle and the job market is begging people to work
Communism is defined by nationalizing the means of production. What you are describing is a healthy repudiation of “libertarian” ideology. Small government as a viable idea went out with the 19th century.
 

BodegaBud

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Shame Trump couldn't come up with an Infrastructure Plan as he stated in the beginning.

It’s a shame he was met with so much resistance with everything he did. Personality wise he’s not what I would of chose but I feel he could of got a lot of things done if everybody worked together
 

hanimmal

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I am saying it should be case by case and limited. There are plenty of able bodied adults that choose not to work. That’s fine but don’t expect everybody to pay your way
Because you say so?

How many white women were working in the 50's?
 

BodegaBud

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Communism is defined by nationalizing the means of production. What you are describing is a healthy repudiation of “libertarian” ideology. Small government as a viable idea went out with the 19th century.

Yeah right. Along with work ethics and morals
 

PJ Diaz

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I am saying it should be case by case and limited. There are plenty of able bodied adults that choose not to work. That’s fine but don’t expect everybody to pay your way
If we're talking about unemployment specifically, it is case-by-case and it is limited.

I also hope that you realize that anything that is "case-by-case" is going to require substantial bureaucracy and larger government, which it seems that you are fundamentally opposed to. So, how do you square that circle?
 

BodegaBud

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Because you say so?

How many white women were working in the 50's?
So because you say so?

All the women worked if they could. They worked their asses off raising families. Very important job. Back then single family earners could provide for an entire family. Now everybody struggles and why I’m so against high taxes that usually hurt the middle
 
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