Soil pH adjustments in mid flower

[Oldman13]

Please excuse me if I quoted myself I didn't mean to!
I'm not used to places where you can't just talk no matter what.... . Hopefully I'm separating my one long sentence into more than just a sentence as well something else I'm not used to but I've always said the day you stop learning is the day you die !
So keep learning..

 

[Oldman13]

Change is supposed to be chained / chains... Yeah he must have escaped once again don't worry I'll get him.

hey mud ball oh, I don't know where to put this I'll probably get in trouble but here I got something for you- - - - it wasn't easy and it took a bit of time! But that last one was a little special so I polished it for you.....

 

[Three Berries]

Magnesium Bicarbonate is easy to find online and used for adjusting pH higher in wine and foods mostly. No sodium in my soil thank you.

 

[Oldman13]

Magnesium Bicarbonate is easy to find online and used for adjusting pH higher in wine and foods mostly. No sodium in my soil thank you.

okay magnesium bicarbonate .. can you tell me how fast it works? No sodium in my soil thank you. I wonder if it sounds 2 everybody else like it does to me? I can almost hear the disgust in your voice or through your fingers whichever you choose? But I must give you Kudos though because you actually came and suggested something although you say you don't want salt in your soil! But then you recommend it to everybody without even shedding a tear! You do this by telling them how easy it is to look up what do you think is not salt ! , magnesium bicarbonate ? Well that is unless you're just recommending this salty substance to me only? Let me Ponder on what you said~~~> yes I believe it was- - - - no sodium in my soil thank you.
I mean not even a no thank you please lol. No no no I don't like it no more !
No thank you please it only makes me sneeze and I'm tired of waking up on the floor...
Okay as I continue to Ponder! I also wonder if you even ever talk to you're beautiful young ladies and sometimes Maybe ask them what they like? Ponder Ponder Ponder I'm beginning to get visions of something that may be relevant or may not- - - - -> no sodium no salt no salt in my soil thank you..... do you hear that wait a minute I hear something in the background- - - - - daddy daddy could you please add some Blackstrap too my sodium please! It makes my lightly salted soil, taste so delicious healthy salty blackstrap molasses, no sulfates please , it almost taste like one of those payday's you humans eat sometimes you know salty peanuts and caramel !
And and all my little friends down there all those microbes that are climbing all over my roots oh my goodness, we all love salty black strap! But please don't over salt you can always get too much of a good thing and then I might need some of that (magnesium bicarbonate) to my upset tummy! You know that stuff you recommended that people look on the internet for ! And too much molasses plugs me up so I'm going to need a little bit of that baking soda because the sodium in it is a laxative! Oh Daddy you care for me so much you give me all the different types of salts I need and I can't live without them! Well I guess I can live but without the proper ones ! I will be so unhealthy I hope you never stop putting salt in my soil Daddy, thank you oh, thank you so very much! Oh my God if my limbs were arms I would hug you so very tightly! 333 okay I'm starting to refocus and the visions are starting to fade away now dash dash – wow wow wow that was a real trip oh boy- - - Wally woo , who's the Wally woo? I'm a Wally woo! Are you a Wally woo – – Wally Wally woo, Wally Wally woo- - - - sorry but I meant to leave that there last night but it was getting quite late. And by the way I just happen to have put a Wi-Fi into the bud room about 3 weeks ago... and lately I noticed her her leaves are yellow with greenish veins in the middle I tested the pH I couldn't believe it oh, it was 5.0 oh my God I didn't know what to do because the process has already started she's getting a considerable amount of delicious buds all over her last night I mixed 1 tbsp baking soda with one gallon of water flooded her with it I just watered her a few days ago so it ran through pretty quickly I drained out the excess check my pH today and it's 6.2 with only one tablespoon and overnight =full]4983417[/ATTACHMENT] to show you I just now took that picture I haven't had a chance to read very much about magnesium bicarbonate how fast does it work? that would be my question?! I'm going to try to find and find out now.
Have a nice one enjoy what you can and forget about the rest

 

[Three Berries]

^^^^

Actually what I have is Potassium Bicarbonate.

It's what flower and veggie growers use as I understand it to adjust their pH and what was suggested to me. I got it from a brewers supply company.

Go ahead and use sodium bicarbonate. In my water mix I use ammonia to raise pH.

But if doing the watering right, and watering till a good runoff then there is no need to use either in the soil. This is what I was not doing. The bicarbonates would only be for a hard correction and not continual use.

But what is more beneficial to a pot plant, potassium or sodium in the free form?

 

[Three Berries]

Here is the article about soil pH adjustment by greenhouses and such.

 

[Oldman13]

^^^^

Actually what I have is Potassium Bicarbonate.

It's what flower and veggie growers use as I understand it to adjust their pH and what was suggested to me. I got it from a brewers supply company.

Go ahead and use sodium bicarbonate. In my water mix I use ammonia to raise pH.

But if doing the watering right, and watering till a good runoff then there is no need to use either in the soil. This is what I was not doing. The bicarbonates would only be for a hard correction and not continual use.

But what is more beneficial to a pot plant, potassium or sodium in the free form?

So you like to steer people in the wrong course on purpose?! I really hope that's not a question

Here is the article about soil pH adjustment by greenhouses and such.

Here is the article about soil pH adjustment by greenhouses and such.

Well I see your ice cube barrier starting to melt a little but not much at least it doesn't seem like it's when you say stuff like--- – – as if maybe you didn't suggest to use magnesium bicarbonate in the first place! Be very careful your potassium bicarbonate because you put too much it will lockout one other nutrient!
And then you go on basically saying in a perfect world! Although not in those words!
But if we were in a perfect world and did everything exactly the way we were supposed to do at the precise right times and all that stuff! I guess there would be no need for this site or basically any site at all no matter what we're talkin about?!
But since we are in our world, mistakes can be and will be made, and when I looked up potassium bicarbonate it seemed to be talking more like it is best used in hydroponic systems?! If I was using a hydroponic system my 5.0 would have been fine I wouldn't have needed to mess with it at all well maybe a little but not much! It also said do your best not to Splash any of this onto your plant foliage for it may burn it! And it was talking about a hundred gallon mixtures. Leading back to Hydroponics! And I do believe that potassium is not only very good for your plants just as the proper salts are but not only is it good it's a very important necessity!
But if I'm not mistaken I believe the main aspect was how fast can I change my pH since my plant is already in its budding cycle potassium bicarbonate said it could take up to two weeks before you even know that it's working! When you only have an 8-week budding cycle and you already used up three of them , you certainly don't want your lady to be sitting in what is already considered acid for an extra 2 weeks before you decide if it worked!
And I would think a tablespoon of baking soda really isn't pushing the edge- - - - but seriously I do really appreciate that you got the all the author's permission to share that information cuz it's very useful very nice of you to post it so again I thank you for that also is it really this hard to get somebody on this site to just nicely give information on how to help somebody? Because I thought that's what this is all about helping a fellow cannabis cultivator from your Superior experience and experiences that you have learned through the past days gone by or decades?
Anyway I know you're actually a pretty cool person and you probably know a hell of a lot and I thank you so very much for any usable information you have given in order to help ouch a fellow cultivator that may be down on their luck or was sick and couldn't find the energy in order to handle doing what they should be doing at the proper times.

 

[Three Berries]

WTF...... What;' your problem? And maybe shrink your screen captures somehow.

 

[Oldman13]

^^^^

Actually what I have is Potassium Bicarbonate.

It's what flower and veggie growers use as I understand it to adjust their pH and what was suggested to me. I got it from a brewers supply company.

Go ahead and use sodium bicarbonate. In my water mix I use ammonia to raise pH.

But if doing the watering right, and watering till a good runoff then there is no need to use either in the soil. This is what I was not doing. The bicarbonates would only be for a hard correction and not continual use.

But what is more beneficial to a pot plant, potassium or sodium in the free form?

So you like to steer people in the wrong course on purpose?! I really hope that's not a question

Here is the article about soil pH adjustment by greenhouses and such.

^^^^

Actually what I have is Potassium Bicarbonate.

It's what flower and veggie growers use as I understand it to adjust their pH and what was suggested to me. I got it from a brewers supply company.

Go ahead and use sodium bicarbonate. In my water mix I use ammonia to raise pH.

But if doing the watering right, and watering till a good runoff then there is no need to use either in the soil. This is what I was not doing. The bicarbonates would only be for a hard correction and not continual use.

But what is more beneficial to a pot plant, potassium or sodium in the free form?

WTF...... What;' your problem? And maybe shrink your screen captures somehow.

what the fuck is
Exactly what I said every time you suggested something to use and then came back and would say something like – – well you go ahead and use th such and such but this is what I use! And then you put something down entirely different from what you said in the prior conversation ? Or say something like what's more beneficial for your pot sodium or potassium ! I mean doesn't that sound sarcastic to you ? Of course potassium is good for your plants but not too much of it of course ! I mean you went from--- magnesium bicarbonate to potassium bicarbonate to ammonia--- so yes seriously – – what the fuck ----if you want to put it that way! Not only did you surprisingly change it each time but – – but you said it in a manner that made it sound like what are you stupid you go right ahead and use that but this is what I use! So again WTF..... And I do apologize for the size of a screen captures! I'm really not used to any of the controls at any of these sites! I don't know hopefully that's better that is t if it even came out? But all this says is it 4 Hydroponics I don't know if it works in soil or not? Potassium hydroxide what's your opinion on that just out of curiosity I mean like I said though it doesn't mention anything about soil?! Okay dude hopefully we can get along better now? It was not my preference or intention to not I along with anybody here in the marijuana section of this site there's a different Section , I believe it is (Section 8 )which I cannot can say the same about! And please remember that not everybody has access to every ingredient at a moment's notice sometimes we have to improvise or get something different altogether due to a time limit! Or due to their health!

 

[Three Berries]

All you want is a base to raise the pH. Ammonia leaves behind nitrogen, any bicarbonate will leave behind the base metal. Magnesium and Potassium are beneficial. Sodium is not.

A hydroxide will work too, it's basically what ammonia is. But they are fast acting. I would not use them in the soil on a planted pot. I use ammonia to raise the pH of my nute water.

I just went though mine drenching with my well water and a limestone that easily dissolves in water. Watered to run off two days in a row and now the run off water is mid to high 6 pH.

I was reading someone here said not to use dolomite (limestone). I don't know why though. It's a great pH buffer, meaning it maintains a pH until it's gone. As it reacts it release calcium and magnesium. And you can't use too much of it. But it is slow to react. Better to use in the initial soil.

 

[Oldman13]

All you want is a base to raise the pH. Ammonia leaves behind nitrogen, any bicarbonate will leave behind the base metal. Magnesium and Potassium are beneficial. Sodium is not.

A hydroxide will work too, it's basically what ammonia is. But they are fast acting. I would not use them in the soil on a planted pot. I use ammonia to raise the pH of my nute water.

I just went though mine drenching with my well water and a limestone that easily dissolves in water. Watered to run off two days in a row and now the run off water is mid to high 6 pH.

I was reading someone here said not to use dolomite (limestone). I don't know why though. It's a great pH buffer, meaning it maintains a pH until it's gone. As it reacts it release calcium and magnesium. And you can't use too much of it. But it is slow to react. Better to use in the initial soil.

That's a big-KOWABUNGA to you dude,,,,, I give you lots of kudos-----> and your right Dolomite lime is excellent and raises pH the only problem is from what I've read that it takes way too long for what I needed a long- term slow-release! Lately I've been reading a lot about things but at times I still cherish the knowledge and ambition of top-notch cultivators.... this particular young lady needed quick attention and everywhere I read I was getting different and overlapping information! But again thank you very much for your help. And from what I'm getting from this particular conversation you do to Hydroponics maybe you do both I don't know but I'm not a hundred percent sure there's a few things you said though that leads me to believe that without you actually saying it LOL and I used to use hydrated Limestone threes mydh but I recently read that it burns her roots otherwise I would have used it and it also doesn't work overnight! The only thing I found that was safe enough to use that has a very quick reaction, quicker than I actually thought in reality!! Sadly to say because of the salt – is baking soda! – – – but I read about the salt in that particular product and it's a laxative type nothing like a table salt! In such a small amount I really didn't feel it would be a problem, but because there's not much time left to go and I didn't want her to be sitting in acid anymore I didn't want to boil her roots! As I recently read as dehydrated lime will do! Also I have read a lot about salts- recently and I was amazed at what I saw because I too have always thought salts of any type was detrimental 2 your plants!

 

[Oldman13]

Well I see there is a few typos in there!
I apologize and also apologize because I didn't punctuate or separate my paragraphs very well please excuse ,,,I'm learning a lot,, I've always said the day you stop learning is the day you die, so keep learning! today makes another year I have lived upon this planet. It's a shame it has to be 9/ 11 but I didn't have much choice in that one

 

[Oldman13]

Now I have to go in separate some trichomes from my saved up trim so I can make some delicious hash

 

[Three Berries]

No I grow in FoxFarm and use Miracle Grow.....

Lime is too strong. If you have acid you need to flush it out or slowly treat it. A fast neutralization with a strong base like lime will create heat and physically burn the roots.

I used pelletized Nuetralime, a tablespoon or so per gallon in my well water. My well water is 7.5 or so. They also have a liquid. Limestone added to the soil when initially mixing is the way to go.

 

[Oldman13]

Okay just so you know because it's very relevant! I live on a very strict fixed-income money isn't all that available! So I do best I can with what I can. I'm surprised that you're using Miracle-Gro?
Although that's what I used to use myself until I found out about time release of nitrogen that might release in the middle of my Bloom or flowering! When at that time I'm supposed to be cut back to 50% of nitrogen! So now I use Fox Farm Happy Frog I think it's fox Farm from Humboldt County and I mix coconut coir 50/50 in order to retain water and air and cut down on my price of soil, Happy Frog bags $20 for I believe that it is two and a half cubic feet, it is a bit larger than the other bags of premixed potting soil that was why originally started using it!
Then when I read more about it and depending on if you want to believe the guy who said so it's like the best potting soil you can use for cannabis! Now I don't know if he works for Fox Farm or not!? I mean he says it's from experience of using and knowing the great success of Happy Frog potting mix! So far it's been good sometimes I have a little bit of yellowing but that could be because the coconut coir holds on to some of the nutrients and not to mention my health isn't the greatest of times so I sometimes don't feel well and can't take care of them the way I need to! It's funny but when A person isn't feeling good or get someone sick their plans also do the same when there's nobody to take over at those times.

 

[Oldman13]

You know it sucks that this site doesn't allowed MP4 download or upload or file attachment something like that

 

[Oldman13]

You know it sucks that this site doesn't allowed MP4 download or upload or file attachment something like that

I mean I thought using their own camera help load a video I thought it would automatically make it uploadable but that's not true I have found out LOL I wonder why it doesn't convert it is there camera?

 

[Oldman13]

Even routing video through here where I usually do to change it to PNG doesn't work this time? I'm pretty computer illiterate and I don't own a computer because of that so I'll probably never know why! But it did work on a screenshot though not what I wanted but it's understandable I believe LOL

 

[Oldman13]

 

[Budzbuddha]

Use Oyster Shell soil amendment- Down to earth brand @ local nurseries and Amazon.
You get around 35% calcium from it. It easily rebalances depleted soils far as calcium and alternative to lime.
I use this at times to supplement my layered soil mixes for prolonged photo grows that deplete medium over time.

No Drama.