I don't know WTF I'm doing here.....

harrychilds

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Here is my opinion/advise. Instead of running auto flowers, run photoperiod plants on 18/6 for 5 or 6 weeks on Veg (longer if needed) and then flip to flower, by doing this you will increase your yield and you will get much bigger plants. I would also get a Humidifier as it looks like you are struggling with low humidity. You should be able to pick one up from your local grow store for about 50 or 60 dollars
 

Hollatchaboy

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That list looks good to me marq. I think if the grow is at your house and you can watch over it you will do ok. Last time you were practically growing thru zoom call...lol.
Don't listen to that assclown above me. You mix up the soil right and keep it moist the whole grow top dress often and you should have a successful grow.
My 2 cents
Yea, I see nothing wrong with the list either.
 

Marq1340

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sorry to be this guy and be all rude but bro just stop .

1st you're Nutrients: scrap them go buy hydroponic nutrients a two part veg and two part bloom plus some calmag and ph down not this organic trash
2nd stop using soil indoors and go get some coca coir mixed with perlite
3rd keep your light alot lower 18 inches max the entire grow
4th get your self a ph meter and ppm or ec meter
that's just to start

look i haven't read this entire post but how in the hell has everyone on this form allowed this grower to mess up so many times with out just telling him to change tactics. no 3rd time you wont be lucky if you keep doing the same thing. organic growing indoors is not for noobs

you are just wasting time and money at this point
Love this comment.

enjoy helping this grower kill the pants again . if i wasnt lazy id zoom call the grower once a day and garantee sucessfull grow. but i kind of dont think this grower can fallow basic instructions . most people cant lol but i will be silently watching this thread and laughing sorry to be that guy but i like it
Zoom or Duo me anytime brother.
 

Marq1340

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That list looks good to me marq. I think if the grow is at your house and you can watch over it you will do ok. Last time you were practically growing thru zoom call...lol.
Don't listen to that assclown above me. You mix up the soil right and keep it moist the whole grow top dress often and you should have a successful grow.
My 2 cents
No seriously.:lol: I'm hoping the grow being in the next room this time makes all the difference. Thanks.
Here is my opinion/advise. Instead of running auto flowers, run photoperiod plants on 18/6 for 5 or 6 weeks on Veg (longer if needed) and then flip to flower, by doing this you will increase your yield and you will get much bigger plants. I would also get a Humidifier as it looks like you are struggling with low humidity. You should be able to pick one up from your local grow store for about 50 or 60 dollars
Hey thanks for the reply, I do have a couple photos and bag seeds waiting in the wing this time around. Whether this grow is successful or not I'll try a couple photoperiods afterwards.
Yea, I see nothing wrong with the list either.
Appreciate the comment. Now I just need to have the ability to grow I guess.
 

Hollatchaboy

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No seriously.:lol: I'm hoping the grow being in the next room this time makes all the difference. Thanks.

Hey thanks for the reply, I do have a couple photos and bag seeds waiting in the wing this time around. Whether this grow is successful or not I'll try a couple photoperiods afterwards.

Appreciate the comment. Now I just need to have the ability to grow I guess.
You'll do fine. Just ask for help if you need it.
 

Faithster88

Active Member
Seriously man scrap all those nutes and soil, go to your local hydro store and get a bag of kings mix or even fox farms ocean forest. I personally use coco and salts but that’s for more advance growers.
Also get some top tier genetics not that autoseed garbage, USA has a ton of top tier breeders, probably the best.
I started out buying ffof soil and fox farms nutrients, what’s probably your best bet.


Get the fox farms nutrient trio line up ($30-40) and feed at half strength of what the bottle says. If using tap you probably don’t need cal mag but just get it just in case you start seeing deficiencies down the road.

get a couple of bags of kings mix($15) or fox farm ocean forest($12)

Feed only 6.5 ph water for the first 2 weeks then start feeding the fox farms nutes, it will come with a feeding schedule but just feed at half strength.
Check out tree star website, he’s got a bunch of bad ass breeders beans.
 

JustBlazin

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Seriously man scrap all those nutes and soil, go to your local hydro store and get a bag of kings mix or even fox farms ocean forest. I personally use coco and salts but that’s for more advance growers.
Also get some top tier genetics not that autoseed garbage, USA has a ton of top tier breeders, probably the best.
I started out buying ffof soil and fox farms nutrients, what’s probably your best bet.


Get the fox farms nutrient trio line up ($30-40) and feed at half strength of what the bottle says. If using tap you probably don’t need cal mag but just get it just in case you start seeing deficiencies down the road.

get a couple of bags of kings mix($15) or fox farm ocean forest($12)

Feed only 6.5 ph water for the first 2 weeks then start feeding the fox farms nutes, it will come with a feeding schedule but just feed at half strength.
Check out tree star website, he’s got a bunch of bad ass breeders beans.
As long as he follows the directions on mixing the soil he will be fine. It's pretty simple, just make sure you mix it up good. I do mine in 2 gallon layers then mix a couple layers at at a time really good, then repeat until you got enough. Your right a bag of fox farm is super easy, but I would top dress organic nutes instead of the bottled nutes.
I used to use bags of ffof until I did a side by side with a mix of promix a Gaia green dry amendments. I found the one I mixed was way bigger, haven't bought another bag of living soil/ffof again.
I don't grow autos, only photos, maybe autos would not react as good to a hot soil, I really have no knowledge of autos sorry
 

Hollatchaboy

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As long as he follows the directions on mixing the soil he will be fine. It's pretty simple, just make sure you mix it up good. I do mine in 2 gallon layers then mix a couple layers at at a time really good, then repeat until you got enough. Your right a bag of fox farm is super easy, but I would top dress organic nutes instead of the bottled nutes.
I used to use bags of ffof until I did a side by side with a mix of promix a Gaia green dry amendments. I found the one I mixed was way bigger, haven't bought another bag of living soil/ffof again.
I don't grow autos, only photos, maybe autos would not react as good to a hot soil, I really have no knowledge of autos sorry
Bottled nutes suck for soil. Dry amendments and ewc..... almost impossible to fuck up.
 

farmingfisherman

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Look....If I can make it to some sort of harvest then I succeeded....

Auto Seedies:
Gorilla Girl XL Auto 3x
Glue Gelato Auto 3x
Lemon Auto 1x
Sour Diesel Auto 1x
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Equipment:
La Garden 4x4x6.5 Tent
2x Sunraise QB2000 Led Lights
Sunraise SW-3000
4.5L Humidifier
8" AC Carbon Filter
8" AC Booster fan(I know, I know...I'll try and upgrade)
12" Hurricane Oscillating fan
Honey Well 11.3 Air Circulation fan
5.5" USB Fan
5 Gallon Pots
14" Saucers
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Soil & Nutrients:
Fox Farm Ocean Forrest
Roots Organics(Lemon and Sour diesel pots)
Miracle-Gro Perlite
Dr earth Flower Girl 3-9-4
Dr Earth All Purpose 4-4-4
Dr Earth Root Zone 2-4-2
Black Gold Organic Earthworm Casting
Swan Epsom Salt
Jobe's Organic Bone Meal
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Integrated Pest Management:
Bonide All season Organic Liquid Insect Killer
Black Flag Fly Stick Insect Trap 2x
LKAN Dual-Sided Yellow Sticky Traps -20 Packs - 6x8 Inches (Twist Ties Included)
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8 Autos Plans and techniques:
My very First grow
Organic Grow
18/6 Light Times
Venting exhaust into exhaust register
LST
Tap Water
Mainling(?)
No ph'ing
700 watts
Led + Cob Led
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Ambitious!
 

Marq1340

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Seriously man scrap all those nutes and soil, go to your local hydro store and get a bag of kings mix or even fox farms ocean forest. I personally use coco and salts but that’s for more advance growers.
Also get some top tier genetics not that autoseed garbage, USA has a ton of top tier breeders, probably the best.
I started out buying ffof soil and fox farms nutrients, what’s probably your best bet.


Get the fox farms nutrient trio line up ($30-40) and feed at half strength of what the bottle says. If using tap you probably don’t need cal mag but just get it just in case you start seeing deficiencies down the road.

get a couple of bags of kings mix($15) or fox farm ocean forest($12)

Feed only 6.5 ph water for the first 2 weeks then start feeding the fox farms nutes, it will come with a feeding schedule but just feed at half strength.
Check out tree star website, he’s got a bunch of bad ass breeders beans.
I'll keep that in mind but I'm deeply invested on making this work and staying organic. Thanks for taking the time out of your day to add some constructive criticism. All replies are welcomed.

Ambitious!
For a third time and beyond! lol

He has no faith in you whatsoever bro! :|
Exactly. I took that personally.:grin:
 

JewelRunner

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I'll keep that in mind but I'm deeply invested on making this work and staying organic. Thanks for taking the time out of your day to add some constructive criticism. All replies are welcomed.


For a third time and beyond! lol


Exactly. I took that personally.:grin:
As long as you don’t overdo the dry amendments you’ll be all good. You should look into getting a few pounds of agsil16h. It really helps promote thick stems and growth, you can water it in(it raises ph so you’ll want to balance that) and it works great as a foliar as well. Helps prevent pm that way too.
 

Marq1340

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As long as you don’t overdo the dry amendments you’ll be all good. You should look into getting a few pounds of agsil16h. It really helps promote thick stems and growth, you can water it in(it raises ph so you’ll want to balance that) and it works great as a foliar as well. Helps prevent pm that way too.
Thanks, I'll look into it later on tonight.
 

beansin

Active Member
Excuse my ignorance, but.... Although my plants could be dealing with certain toxicities in their soil I still top dressed.
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this is the reason why i say organics and soil isnt good for indoors.
you are playing a guessing game .
using synthetics you know exactly what your plant is getting also why you use a well draining inert medium so if a problem occurs its allot easier to flush and rectify the issue.
in veg to every 1000ml water i add 1ml cal mag then 1ml each of a two part veg nutrient . then adjust ph to 6.2 ish for flower i do the same mix with bloom nutrients and ph to 5.8 ish .
water same time once a day just till run off and you're done .
stop planting your seeds in such a big pot .
start with a 4 inch max then transplant once its bigger plus keep your light 18 inches the entire grow
or seedlings keeping the light close s a better idea so it does not stretch and fall over . as you have already seen happen
once the seeds produces its 1st real nodes the main stem will stop stretching and you can mark down day 1 of veg
seedlings dont need allot of watering probably ever second day i will feed a veg mix at 50% the above veg mix for two weeks then right to full mix what is technically a week mix already.
after two or three weeks the seed should now be more then big enough to transplant to a 8 inch pot or bigger and receive its 1st topping and maybe some lst
then as it grows keep topping and using lst as needed until you have filled 80% of your grow space
then lollipop the lowers of the plant and remove about 50% of the big fan leaves wait 3 ish days then flip to 12/12
keep feeding veg nutrients for the 1st week then change over to the bloom nutrients
feed daily at this point . same time preferably
genetics will play one of the biggest roles. if its not a fem then you run the risk of getting males and wasting 4 months grow time maybe more if it takes a while to show sex
temps and humidity sure play a role but if they are off abit you can get away with it . too much out and you will have issues regardless
not ideal but 45-55% humidity the entire grow will work and 28c lights on up with a max of 30c . that's pushing it . lights of 18c -14c is getting abit low but can still work. thats celsius not fahrenheit
when it comes to using coca coir it need extra buffering regardless of what the bag says . you need to get them catin exchange sits depleted from potassium and filled with calcium or else you will run in to deficiencies . i sock my coir in a strong cal mag mix with water and leave it for 48 hours then allow to drain before planing anything in to it
i could keep going but im bored now . happy growing or trying at least
 

Hollatchaboy

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this is the reason why i say organics and soil isnt good for indoors.
you are playing a guessing game .
using synthetics you know exactly what your plant is getting also why you use a well draining inert medium so if a problem occurs its allot easier to flush and rectify the issue.
in veg to every 1000ml water i add 1ml cal mag then 1ml each of a two part veg nutrient . then adjust ph to 6.2 ish for flower i do the same mix with bloom nutrients and ph to 5.8 ish .
water same time once a day just till run off and you're done .
stop planting your seeds in such a big pot .
start with a 4 inch max then transplant once its bigger plus keep your light 18 inches the entire grow
or seedlings keeping the light close s a better idea so it does not stretch and all over . as you have already seen happen
once the seeds produces its 1st real nodes the main stem will stop stretching and you can mark down day 1 of veg
seedlings dont need allot of watering probably ever second day i will feed a veg mix at 50% the above veg mix for two weeks then right to full mix what is technically a week mix already.
after two or three weeks the seed should now be more then big enough to transplant to a 8 inch pot or bigger and receive its 1st topping and maybe some lst
then as it grows keep topping and using lst as needed until you have filled 80% of your grow space
then lollipop the lowers of the plant and remove about 50% of the big fan leaves wait 3 ish days then flip to 12/12
keep feeding veg nutrients for the 1st week then change over to the bloom nutrients
feed daily at this point . same time preferably
genetics will play one of the biggest roles. if its not a fem then you run the risk of getting males and wasting 4 months grow time maybe more if it takes a while to show sex
temps and humidity sure play a role but if they are off abit you can get away with it . too much out and you will have issues regardless
not ideal but 45-55% humidity the entire grow will work and 28c lights on up with a max of 30c . that's pushing it . lights of 18c -14c is getting abit low but can still work. thats celsius not fahrenheit
when it comes to using coca coir it need extra buffering regardless of what the bag says . you need to get them catin exchange sits depleted from potassium and filled with calcium or else you will run in to deficiencies . i sock my coir in a strong cal mag mix with water and leave it for 48 hours then allow to drain before planing anything in to it
i could keep going but im bored now . happy growing or trying at least
Really.......

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I must be doing something wrong then. :wall:

And I'm not even any good at growing. If I can do it, @Marq1340 can do it damnit! :hump:
 
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farmingfisherman

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Got to admit I made my earlier comment without looking when your thread started. :D. Thank last plant in the scrog looks great! Keep up the good work!
 

PJ Diaz

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As long as he follows the directions on mixing the soil he will be fine. It's pretty simple, just make sure you mix it up good. I do mine in 2 gallon layers then mix a couple layers at at a time really good, then repeat until you got enough. Your right a bag of fox farm is super easy, but I would top dress organic nutes instead of the bottled nutes.
I used to use bags of ffof until I did a side by side with a mix of promix a Gaia green dry amendments. I found the one I mixed was way bigger, haven't bought another bag of living soil/ffof again.
I don't grow autos, only photos, maybe autos would not react as good to a hot soil, I really have no knowledge of autos sorry
Was your side by side with identical clones or from seed?
 

JustBlazin

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Was your side by side with identical clones or from seed?
Clones, it was a few years ago they were both the same size and put in same size containers can't remember what strain it was, I had them right beside each other the Gaia green plant got 33-50 % bigger I'd say then the room was getting too packed so I tossed the fox farm for more space cause the other one was much bigger and nicer
 

Marq1340

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Third grow is on its way!

Second grow but first time transplanting autoflowers
Day1
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A week later
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Later learned if you're going to try and transplant autos then make sure they're healthy.
Third grow, second time transplanting.
Transplanted when healthy, used about a 1/2 tsp of myco bliss organic mycorrhizal around the transplant area, along with a couple sprays of water with liquid seaweed/kelp on each plant. Transplanted 6 total 3 days apart.
Mixed days 1-6
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