Can you switch from organics to salts mid grow

green_machine_two9er

green_machine_two9er

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myke said:
Good point,fish hyrdroslate is water soluble and acts fast. Salts are easy though ,ORGANIC is for patient people,salts for busy people.
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Hahaha I always say it’s the “slow game”. Trust the process, but this shit takes time snd SPACE. And a shiton of water. But we all know who wins the race. The tortoise

to the op. I’m no helpon this one. Except I think floraflex is making a decent linefrom what I’ve heard.

be happy to help you dial in your organics tho when you get back at it. Sometimes it’s the simplest thing to get things chugging good.
 
PJ Diaz

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PadawanWarrior said:
Fine for the plants. Not great for the soil if you want to reuse it.
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Not true. So long as you aren't adding an excessive amount of salts, your soil base and microherd will persist in health. Of course if you do plan to reuse your soil, you will also want to re-amend it between crops.
PadawanWarrior said:
No. You just don't want excess salt to build up. That's why you water to runoff when using salts.
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You shouldn't get salt buildup if you are using correct feed rates. The plants will simply absorb the salts you feed it. Watering to runoff with salts in soil is in fact more likely to lead to salt accumulation simply due to the total salts you have added to the soil volume, and you also risk having root issues due to oversaturation.
 
PadawanWarrior

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PJ Diaz said:
Not true. So long as you aren't adding an excessive amount of salts, your soil base and microherd will persist in health. Of course if you do plan to reuse your soil, you will also want to re-amend it between crops.

You shouldn't get salt buildup if you are using correct feed rates. The plants will simply absorb the salts you feed it. Watering to runoff with salts in soil is in fact more likely to lead to salt accumulation simply due to the total salts you have added to the soil volume, and you also risk having root issues due to oversaturation.
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Do you actually reuse your soil?

And that makes absolutely no sense that watering to runoff is more likely to lead to salt accumulation. You're confused.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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PadawanWarrior said:
Do you actually reuse your soil?

And that makes absolutely no sense that watering to runoff is more likely to lead to salt accumulation. You're confused.
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I don't grow cannabis in soil, but yes I do reuse it in my raised garden beds outdoors and also containers. Yeah, I've grown various crops in soil for decades, and I'm not one to just throw away good materials once the plant has run it's course. Heck I even save all my leaves and stems for compost, mulch, or whatever. I believe you've asked me this before, and I've already said this before in the past. Do you somehow believe that all crops grown in field soil with salt based fertilizer regimens don't have a microherd? Sure as I mentioned, excessive salts can become an issue, so just be sure to not be excessive about your feeds. As far as the water to runoff in soil question, no I'm not confused. It's simple math really. Lower total volume of salts vs water to runoff (higher total volume of salts) is a pretty obvious math problem, which has the same answer every time. I believe that in fact you are confused by thinking that a salt-based feed in soil, somehow should mimic how one would approach a sterile type of substrate such as coco or rockwool.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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PJ Diaz said:
I don't grow cannabis in soil, but yes I do reuse it in my raised garden beds outdoors and also containers. Yeah, I've grown various crops in soil for decades, and I'm not one to just throw away good materials once the plant has run it's course. Heck I even save all my leaves and stems for compost, mulch, or whatever. I believe you've asked me this before, and I've already said this before in the past. Do you somehow believe that all crops grown in field soil with salt based fertilizer regimens don't have a microherd? Sure as I mentioned, excessive salts can become an issue, so just be sure to not be excessive about your feeds. As far as the water to runoff in soil question, no I'm not confused. It's simple math really. Lower total volume of salts vs water to runoff (higher total volume of salts) is a pretty obvious math problem, which has the same answer every time. I believe that in fact you are confused by thinking that a salt-based feed in soil, somehow should mimic how one would approach a sterile type of substrate such as coco or rockwool.
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So you don't grow in soil, but are giving advice about it, lol?
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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PadawanWarrior said:
Are you really bringing out your transcript, lol? What college is this anyways, lol?
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Welp you claimed that I wasn't qualified to say shit, but apparently I am. It doesn't really even matter if I grow in soil or not; it's not like you are gonna be able to tell visually if your nutes kill your microbes or not. What college? It's the college of notlivingatmymama'shousesogottahaveafulltimejobtopaythebillsandfeedmyfamilysokindlyfuckoffokthanks.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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PJ Diaz said:
Welp you claimed that I wasn't qualified to say shit, but apparently I am. It doesn't really even matter if I grow in soil or not; it's not like you are gonna be able to tell visually if your nutes kill your microbes or not. What college? It's the college of notlivingatmymama'shousesogottahaveafulltimejobtopaythebillsandfeedmyfamilysokindlyfuckoffokthanks.
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That's what I thought. I've never heard of that University, lol.

I took a horti class in high school so I know what I'm talking about, lol.
 
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