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FACT FOCUS: Arizona canvass report draws nonsensical conclusions
A report released this week in Arizona's largest county falsely claims to have uncovered some 173,000 “lost” votes and 96,000 “ghost votes” in a private door-to-door canvassing effort, supposedly rendering the 2020 election in Maricopa County “uncertifiable.”

But its conclusions aren't supported by any evidence, according to county election officials and outside election experts, who called the report's methods “quasi-science" and its findings inaccurate.

Still, the 11-page document ⁠— which is separate from an ongoing partisan audit in the county ⁠— has been shared widely in conservative media and by Republican politicians, including state Rep. Mark Finchem, who is campaigning to be Arizona's secretary of state — the state's top election official.

CLAIM: An estimated 173,104 “missing or lost” votes and an estimated 96,389 “ghost” votes cast by people who didn’t appear to live at their voter registration addresses indicate that the 2020 election in Maricopa County included irregularities and is “uncertifiable.”

The “Grassroots Canvass Report” that gained traction on social media on Wednesday weaves a narrative of hundreds of thousands of voting errors in Maricopa County, but it bases those allegations on interactions with a fraction of that number of votes, analyzing data on just 4,570 voters in a handful of voting precincts.

Harris claims in the report that these smaller-scale findings can be extrapolated out to the entire county “at a scientifically correlated confidence level of 95%,” but Stanford University political science professor Justin Grimmer said that's inaccurate.

“From the description in the report, it is clear that this was not a random sample,” Grimmer said. Even if it was random, he said, certain areas were oversampled, and the authors didn’t take into account that the people who responded to the canvassers were likely different than those who didn’t respond.

“Their sample simply cannot justify their inference to the entire county,” Grimmer said.
 

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Gen. Flynn: Ariz. audit is key to restoring integrity of U.S. elections
General Michael Flynn highlighted the importance of the audit of 2020 elections in Arizona by saying the state’s legislature held the future of the country. In a recent interview, Flynn said he expected the upcoming results of the Arizona audit could lead to a decertification of 2020 results in the state.

“Everybody knows that he election was stolen,” he asserted. “There is no way in the world that 80 million people voted for this administration occupying the White House, no way.”

Flynn added the similar audits were necessary in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and other states.

“There’s gonna be a hearing on the 21st that’s going to decide whether or not they moved forward to decertify this election. Everybody needs to pay attention to it, not just in Arizona, but in the entire country,” he explained. “…We are talking about the future of our country cannot move forward until we resolve the election integrity issues of the 2020 presidential election, which clearly has issues.”
I wish they wouldn't refer to him as General Flynn anymore. It should be Traitor Flynn.

It's a fact he doesn't believe any of this crap. These guys are in it strictly for the money.
 

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Pennsylvania Republicans' Attempts At A 2020 Election "Audit" Are Off To An Awkward Start
Pennsylvania’s Senate Republicans kicked off their own “audit” of the 2020 election with a hearing Thursday, becoming the third state legislature to do so 10 months after voters rejected former president Donald Trump.

Stuart Ulsh, the chair of Fulton County Election Board in Pennsylvania, was the only witness at Thursday’s hearing. Ulsh had authorized a third party to conduct an election audit in his county at the request of a pro-Trump senator back in December. But in responding to questions from Democrats at the hearing, Ulsh repeatedly testified that the audit had found nothing wrong with the election. “Nothing was found,” he told senators.

Williams, the top Democrat on the committee, gave an impassioned speech during Thursday’s hearing, calling the audit “a sham,” “a travesty, plain and simple,” and “one part of the ongoing nationally orchestrated attack on our electoral system.” He called out Republicans on the panel, saying that the audit’s goal is “simply to stoke distrust and division.”

“And the most exasperating part of it all is that everyone on this panel knows that. We know this and you know this,” he said, referring to the Democrats and Republicans on the committee. “And yet here we sit, witnessing the exploitation of the people out there who honestly believe that the lies that they’ve been told about so-called irregularities and rigging, the basis of which is not founded in fact, because they trust what they are told and by whom they are told. This is sad and it’s wrong.”

It’s not clear what Pennsylvania’s audit will look like from here. Dush said that the committee will hold additional hearings, and it has set up a website asking Pennsylvanians to “share any potential violations of election law or voting irregularities they have witnessed personally” for potential testimony.
They wont be hiring Cyber Ninjas. Low bid came from AlphaWolf Ballot Commandos.
 

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Arizona Supreme Court allows release of Senate audit records
The Arizona Supreme Court on Tuesday rejected an effort by the state Senate to keep secret records of its ongoing review of the 2020 election in Maricopa County that are in the possession of the contractors conducting the recount.

The high court without comment rejected the appeal filed after an appeals court and trial court both ruled the documents are public records that must be released. The court also dissolved a stay on the appeals court ruling it put in place on Aug. 24 so it could review the record and decide whether to accept the appeal.

The Arizona Court of Appeals had ruled that the documents sought by the watchdog group American Oversight detailing how the recount and audit are being conducted are public and must be turned over.

Republicans who control the Senate have tried for months to keep secret how their contractors are conducting the recount. They argued that because the records are maintained by Senate contractors, they were not subject to public records law and that legislative immunity applies. But the appeals court in its Aug. 19 ruling rejected that argument.

The court said the main contractor, Florida company Cyber Ninjas, was subject to the records law because it was performing a core government function that the Senate farmed out.

“Allowing the legislature to disregard the clear mandate of the (public records law) would undermine the integrity of the legislative process and discourage transparency, which contradicts the purpose of both the immunity doctrine and the (law),” acting presiding Judge Maria Elena Cruz wrote for the three-judge panel.

“The requested records are no less public records simply because they are in the possession of a third party, Cyber Ninjas,” Cruz wrote later in the ruling.

Senate President Fan tells Ninja's to release records. Of course the turtles will say they still have covid and have not done their homework so the release will be delayed.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Good Guy: "I think money was stolen from our safe"
Bad Guy: "I can tell you for 100% certainty that money was NOT stolen from our safe"
Good Guy: "That's great news! I'm going to count it to make sure"
Bad Guy: "NOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can't do that!!!!! If you TRY i will try to STOP you and make sure you FAIL!!!!!"

So the left think the election was rigged, so does the right, and so does the rest of the world. What now?
You seek mental help?
 

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Audit findings to be presented Sept. 24, Fann says
Arizonans will finally get to see on Sept. 24 what auditors have concluded about whether there was fraud, misconduct, mistakes or anything else in the conduct of the 2020 election in Maricopa County that denied a Donald Trump victory in the state.

Senate President Karen Fann said there will be an open session at 1 p.m. that day on the Senate floor so that Doug Logan, CEO of Cyber Ninjas, can present the findings to her and Sen. Warren Petersen, R-Gilbert, who chairs the Judiciary Committee. Cyber Ninjas, hired by Fann to conduct the review, was given possession of about 2.1 million ballots plus voting equipment and charged with determining the accuracy of the official results that gave the victory to Joe Biden.

There also will be a presentation via video from Shiva Ayyadurai, who has been linked to various election conspiracy theories. The Senate separately hired Ayyadurai to review voter signatures on mail-in ballots.

At that point, Fann said, electronic copies of the report will be made available. She said the findings will not be discussed until a future — and not-yet-scheduled — meeting of Petersen’s committee.

All this comes as the attorney for the Senate was in court on Thursday explaining to Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Michael Kemp why his client has not yet disclosed all of the documents it has in its possession.

Kory Langhofer said thousands of pages already have been turned over to American Oversight, the self-proclaimed watchdog organization that filed suit demanding everything relating to the audit. He said there are documents, including texts, that the Senate believes are shielded from public disclosure under the concept of “legislative privilege.’’

Fann told Capitol Media Services the number of withheld documents is about 2,700.

That doesn’t include perhaps 60,000 other documents still in the possession of Cyber Ninjas that have not yet been turned over to the Senate despite a Tuesday ruling from the Arizona Supreme Court. Langhofer said once the Senate gets those documents there may be claims that some are confidential.

Attorney Keith Beauchamp, who represents American Oversight, argues that his client and the public are entitled to see not just the final report but also draft versions.

Those drafts could prove crucial in determining what changes were made between the time Cyber Ninjas submits its findings to the Senate and what is released as the final conclusion. Any changes are bound to raise questions about why the alterations were made.

“We ought to receive that today if it’s in their possession and it’s a public document,’’ Beauchamp told the judge.
Fann, however, said the Senate does not yet have the draft report. Langhofer conceded in court there’s a caveat to all that.
“I believe the Senate or its agents are in possession of a draft report, but not from Cyber Ninjas,’’ he told the judge. “There were some ancillary reports. But the main one, the Senate does not have yet.’’

Fann said some of that comes from Shelby Busch, co-founder of We The People Arizona Alliance, who has raised questions about the accuracy of the election results. The Senate president said Busch worked with “some grass-roots people who worked the polls.’’

“They put a document together of things that they observed at the polls, things that went on,’’ Fann said. “They went through all of the recordings and videos of MCTEC (Maricopa County Tabulation and Election Center) about some things.’’

Fann said there are people who have filled out affidavits “documenting things when they were working at the polls, what they observed.’’
Whatever Fann has, American Oversight wants that, too.

As to that draft report, Langhofer said the Senate is under no legal obligation to make it public, either before or after the promised Sept. 24 release of the final version.

“There are reasons that drafts shouldn’t be made public because there are things about them that need to be rethought or refined,’’ he said. Langhofer said that’s why the public does not get draft court opinions or police reports.

Beauchamp called the comparison invalid. “It’s an audit,’’ he said. “It’s nothing like a draft judicial report or a draft criminal investigatory report.’’

That still leaves the legal question of a potentially large trove of documents that the Senate says are protected by legislative privilege and are none of the public’s business.

One batch in dispute involves texts between Fann and Logan. The Senate contends that all is protected by “legislative privilege.’’
Roopali Desai, another attorney for American Oversight, said the Senate is stretching the definition of what is privileged.
“We believe records they are withholding that are ancillary to the audit — procedures, hiring, fundraising, those kinds of things — those don’t come under the legislative privilege and should be produced,’’ she said.
 

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Trump demands Abbott back election audit in Texas
Former President Trump is pressuring Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) to back a bill to launch an election audit in the Lone Star State, signaling an expanded effort to throw his broader 2020 election defeat into question.

While Trump won Texas handily in November, he issued an open letter to Abbott on Thursday repeating his unfounded claims of voter fraud and other irregularities "in some" counties in the state and urged the governor to back the election audit bill in the Texas Legislature's upcoming special session.

“Despite my big win in Texas, I hear Texans want an election audit! You know your fellow Texans have big questions about the November 2020 Election,” Trump said.

“Texas needs you to act now. Your Third Special Session is the perfect, and maybe last, opportunity to pass this audit bill,” he added. “Texans know voting fraud occurred in some of their counties. Let's get to the bottom of the 2020 Presidential Election Scam!”

"I want audits done in every state until I have more of the popular vote than Biden." "And my inaguration crowd was larger than Biden's."
 
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