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Cotyledon420

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IME - vape zero and let your lowers grow in your garden - then roll joints with them and use as needed.
I was smoking about a dozen relatively low-powered joints a day at first. About the only negative is that I now have a taste for joints again - just not 12 / day! :P

I kicked some "harder" habits too, almost ten years ago - no fun; but a HUGE learning experience.
--- not recommended, there's easier ways to learn! :spew:
Kudos to being clean...kudos to everybody
 

Cotyledon420

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My last mod sub $20 GX350 Smok met its untimely end when it kept turning the watts up to 300. My poor lungs when I wasn’t looking and take a whiff of 300 watts on a sub ohm. If it happened while close to dry I have inhaled flaming cotton :wall:

last time it happened I got so pissed I chucked the thing about 100ft across pavement. So far lil blue here has stayed on my good side
I feel like it's a marketing tactic...300w? You trying to power your dishwasher in the mean time lol
 

Cotyledon420

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Any body know anything about kind led ? The commercial supposedly the best grow light on thearket pulling 4 lbs off one light..."the industry standard"
 

Cotyledon420

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Not bagging on you bro, but I need proof for those numbers. I thought "Kind" was just another Chinese repack.
No I tried sharing the video but it's age restricted type in kind led on YouTube watch the guys from Oklahoma on the office channel should be first video
 

Cotyledon420

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Not bagging on you bro, but I need proof for those numbers. I thought "Kind" was just another Chinese repack.
Yea I thought that too untill they sent me a coupon in the mail most expensive light I've seen on the market more than gavita or growers choice
 

Cotyledon420

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X² Commercial LED Grow Light
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GSI1 Controller for X2 Commercial LED Grow Light
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  • Product Description
    • Spectrum3 Channel - Fully Adjustable*
      Diodes384 OSRAM OSLON SSL
      Max Wattage750w (±5%)
      Efficacy2.2 μmol/J
      Input Voltage120-277v
      PPF1650 μmol/s
      Amperage6.25A @ 120V / 3.125A @ 240V
      Power Factor0.963 @ 240v
      LIfetime>75,000 Hours
      Weight40.2 lbs
      Dimensions39.4” x 39.4” x 4.3”
      RMH (Recommended Mounting Height Above Canopy)± 12”
      Cord Type6' - 120v or 240v
      Footprint (RMH)4' x 4'
      Warranty5 Year
      CertificationsIP65, FCC
      *when paired with compatible controller
      Currently not eligible for promotions or discounts
      X² Spectrum

      X² MANUAL
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Welcome to the future of commercial LED grow lights
Developed as the perfect solution to vertical racking and overhead grow operations, the X² commercial LED grow light from Kind LED was specifically designed for close-proximity growing, capitalizing on valuable tiered growing space while maintaining a large coverage footprint and tremendously even PPFD output. This means increased harvest weight and quality, and unmatched potential for financial returns at harvest. Discover the future of commercial LED grow lights today!
WHEN YOU COMPROMISE NOTHING, YOU GAIN EVERYTHING
INTRODUCING A GAME-CHANGING INNOVATION IN COMMERCIAL LED GROW LIGHTS

Revolutionary Design
The concentric square design eliminates common shortcomings of popular LED fixtures, offering an extremely even PPFD across the canopy, ensuring maximum production and overall plant health.
Over Engineered
From over-engineered heat sinks and electronic components to a commercial-grade aluminum body, the bulletproof construction of the X2 will be the only part of your grow you never have to worry about.
Tunable Spectrum
With a 3-Channel fully customizable spectrum, the X2 is capable of providing the perfect spectral output for every stage of growth, meaning faster, healthier growth with significantly less wasted energy.
Osram SSL Diodes
Industry-leading commercial-grade diodes with a 75,000+ hour lifespan capable of withstanding the harshest conditions. You can grow with complete confidence and peace of mind knowing you are giving your plants the best the industry has to offer.
Slim Profile
At only 4.3″, the X2 takes up minimal space so you can utilize every inch of precious growing space and maximize your potential profits

BACKED BY SCIENCE, NOT TRENDS
Our PLANT FIRST Design builds on decades of light science to give your plants calculated levels of targeted light spectrum during photosynthesis.
INDUSTRY-LEADING SERVICE
Your success is our greatest achievement. Kind LED is determined to provide our growers peace of mind with best-in-class products and industry-leading service.
INCREASED YIELDS AND QUALITY
Unique concentric square design rejects dated concepts and offers uniform PPFD throughout large footprint for increased yields and quality.

GROW STRONG INDUSTRIES GSI-1 CONTROLLER
The GSI-1, Grow Strong’s digital lighting controller, connects with over 500 X² grow lights across two zones using standard telephone cables. This compact unit can control lights as far as 1,000 feet away with no start-up surge. and simulate sunrise and sunset, gradually waking up your plants. It also features brown-out/black-out detection and timing for optimal light restart, a built-in clock and 30-year rated battery backup. The GSI-1 knows when temperatures in your indoor garden are too high and can automatically respond by dimming your lamps to mitigate environmental stress and plant damage. Output power can be fine-tuned to 750W in 10% increments. Please note, this controller is not required to run the X².
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Cotyledon420

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They partnered up with guerilla grow tent


The cheap led your thinking of inst even on the website any more they up their game
 

MustGro

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That’s a real nice light @Cotyledon420. Never saw that style before, where the strips are run around in squares like that. Love the heat sink for the driver in the center. Nice Osram diodes and they have 75000 hours instead of the usual 50000. The efficacy seems low at 2.2, but I wonder if that’s due to spectrum. Do they say anyplace what spectrum and how many diodes of each?
There’s only 384 diodes though for what $1600. Scorpion Diablo has six panels with something like 648 diodes each at 660 watts for around the same cash. I guess you could think of it as 750 vs. 660 watts though.
 

Cotyledon420

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That’s a real nice light @Cotyledon420. Never saw that style before, where the strips are run around in squares like that. Love the heat sink for the driver in the center. Nice Osram diodes and they have 75000 hours instead of the usual 50000. The efficacy seems low at 2.2, but I wonder if that’s due to spectrum. Do they say anyplace what spectrum and how many diodes of each?
There’s only 384 diodes though for what $1600. Scorpion Diablo has six panels with something like 648 diodes each at 660 watts for around the same cash. I guess you could think of it as 750 vs. 660 watts though.
You got any stats I wanna check it out...

I notice kind has a 5 year warranty which I'm sure adds to the price almost twice as much compared to most companies...some companies only do 1 year and yes I'm like you 2.2 is low but I feel like that's accurate compared to something spider farmer saying they have a 2.8 it just seems like the companys over shoot it to sell it....also with a 1650 PPF that's very close to the sun's PPF with is around 1700-2000 I believe according to DR.Bruce Bugbee (I could be slightly off )
You got to remember it has 12 different colored diodes replicating more of a full spectrum they actually have some science to back them up...but with half the amount of diodes could they be slightly bigger ? They do swear on the efficiency of the energy consumption as well but don't they all

Send me some stats homie I wanna compare
 
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Cotyledon420

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HLG SCORPION DIABLO
Optimized for Vertical Rack Grows

  • Full Spectrum White and Deep Red
  • Reliable passive-cooled design
  • Better canopy light penetration with diffused light
  • Dimmable power supply included
  • Auto sensing Inventronics or Meanwell power supply works on 120VAC, 240VAC, and 277VAC
  • 5 Year warranty
Specifications
Power160-650 Watts
Voltage Range120-277 VAC 50-60Hz
LEDFull Spectrum White & Deep Red
Flowering Footprint5' x 5' at 18"
Veg Footprint6' x 6' at 24”
System PPF Efficacy3.2 μmol/joule
Total output2130 PPF
Dimensions38.5" x 36" x 2.75"
Recommended Mounting Height15-24 inches above canopy
CertificationsUL 8800, UL 1598, CSA, DLC

Independent PPFD Report
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HLG Scorpion Diablo™ is designed for grows with low ceiling heights or for vertical racks. HLG Scorpion Diablo™ uses 6 Advanced Design Diablo™ Quantum Boards® for an even light spread at just 15" from the canopy. This incredibly efficient full spectrum horticulture lamp has an efficiency of 3.2 PPF/W. This lamp has a new improved spectrum with a broader blue.
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TOP FEATURES
  • Designed for low ceiling heights and vertical racks and grow tents
  • Highest efficiency full spectrum grow lamp

  • Full Spectrum White and Deep Red
  • Reliable passive-cooled design
  • Better canopy light penetration with diffused light
  • Dimmable power supply included
  • Auto sensing Inventronics or Meanwell power supply works on 120VAC, 240VAC, and 277VAC
  • 5 Year warranty
SPECIFICATIONS
Power160-650 Watts
Voltage Range120-277 VAC 50-60Hz
LEDFull Spectrum White & Deep Red
Flowering Footprint5' x 5' at 18"
Veg Footprint6' x 6' at 24”
System PPF Efficacy3.2 μmol/joule
Total output2130 PPF
Dimensions38.5" x 36" x 2.75"
Recommended Mounting Height15-24 inches above canopy
CertificationsUL 8800, UL 1598, CSA, DLC


Seems pretty high on the stats and similar price and warranty
 

Cotyledon420

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They have full spectrum white, deep red and broad blue diodes so only 3 colored diodes but the 2100 PPF and 3.2 umols is for sure got the kind beat but I'm their commercial they lied and said it was only 2.9 that's what's I mean why do they do that... companies make it hard for me to trust them...
 

Cotyledon420

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spectrum. LED grow lights are made up of many small LEDs, or light-emitting diodes, that each project one specific wavelength of the electromagnetic scale. We interpret this as the visible (although sometimes invisible) color of a diode. Plants use and absorb an array of colors from 400nm to 700nm in order to carry out photosynthesis and other developmental processes. Many LED companies only use 2-3 of the primary colors needed for photosynthesis and plant growth. While these lights provide the plant with the most readily absorbed wavelengths, they ignore crucial parts of the spectrum that the plants also utilize, albeit in smaller quantities. While plants subjected to these conditions find a way to survive and carry out photosynthesis, they are far from actually thriving. Plants that are not receiving their complete lighting spectrum needs can become leggy and produce only wispy flowers. Kind LED Grow Lights feature a complete 12-band spectrum that provides your plants every lighting component needed for robust and complete growth, throughout all stages of their life cycle.

They also have a customizable spectrum you can change it threwout the grow with a remote I'm sold man I'm going with kind
 

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X² Commercial LED Grow Light
$1,695.00
Default Title - $1,695.00
Quantity
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Add Ons (use checkbox):

6-Foot Power Cord for Kind X² LED Grow Light
Choose Voltage: 120v240v
$0.00


GSI1 Controller for X2 Commercial LED Grow Light
$299.95


  • Product Description
    • Spectrum3 Channel - Fully Adjustable*
      Diodes384 OSRAM OSLON SSL
      Max Wattage750w (±5%)
      Efficacy2.2 μmol/J
      Input Voltage120-277v
      PPF1650 μmol/s
      Amperage6.25A @ 120V / 3.125A @ 240V
      Power Factor0.963 @ 240v
      LIfetime>75,000 Hours
      Weight40.2 lbs
      Dimensions39.4” x 39.4” x 4.3”
      RMH (Recommended Mounting Height Above Canopy)± 12”
      Cord Type6' - 120v or 240v
      Footprint (RMH)4' x 4'
      Warranty5 Year
      CertificationsIP65, FCC
      *when paired with compatible controller
      Currently not eligible for promotions or discounts
      X² Spectrum

      X² MANUAL
Share:
Welcome to the future of commercial LED grow lights
Developed as the perfect solution to vertical racking and overhead grow operations, the X² commercial LED grow light from Kind LED was specifically designed for close-proximity growing, capitalizing on valuable tiered growing space while maintaining a large coverage footprint and tremendously even PPFD output. This means increased harvest weight and quality, and unmatched potential for financial returns at harvest. Discover the future of commercial LED grow lights today!
WHEN YOU COMPROMISE NOTHING, YOU GAIN EVERYTHING
INTRODUCING A GAME-CHANGING INNOVATION IN COMMERCIAL LED GROW LIGHTS

Revolutionary Design
The concentric square design eliminates common shortcomings of popular LED fixtures, offering an extremely even PPFD across the canopy, ensuring maximum production and overall plant health.
Over Engineered
From over-engineered heat sinks and electronic components to a commercial-grade aluminum body, the bulletproof construction of the X2 will be the only part of your grow you never have to worry about.
Tunable Spectrum
With a 3-Channel fully customizable spectrum, the X2 is capable of providing the perfect spectral output for every stage of growth, meaning faster, healthier growth with significantly less wasted energy.
Osram SSL Diodes
Industry-leading commercial-grade diodes with a 75,000+ hour lifespan capable of withstanding the harshest conditions. You can grow with complete confidence and peace of mind knowing you are giving your plants the best the industry has to offer.
Slim Profile
At only 4.3″, the X2 takes up minimal space so you can utilize every inch of precious growing space and maximize your potential profits

BACKED BY SCIENCE, NOT TRENDS
Our PLANT FIRST Design builds on decades of light science to give your plants calculated levels of targeted light spectrum during photosynthesis.
INDUSTRY-LEADING SERVICE
Your success is our greatest achievement. Kind LED is determined to provide our growers peace of mind with best-in-class products and industry-leading service.
INCREASED YIELDS AND QUALITY
Unique concentric square design rejects dated concepts and offers uniform PPFD throughout large footprint for increased yields and quality.

GROW STRONG INDUSTRIES GSI-1 CONTROLLER
The GSI-1, Grow Strong’s digital lighting controller, connects with over 500 X² grow lights across two zones using standard telephone cables. This compact unit can control lights as far as 1,000 feet away with no start-up surge. and simulate sunrise and sunset, gradually waking up your plants. It also features brown-out/black-out detection and timing for optimal light restart, a built-in clock and 30-year rated battery backup. The GSI-1 knows when temperatures in your indoor garden are too high and can automatically respond by dimming your lamps to mitigate environmental stress and plant damage. Output power can be fine-tuned to 750W in 10% increments. Please note, this controller is not required to run the X².
Commercial Grow Light Controller


Products
Menu
Contact Us
Contact Us Here

PO Box 6105
Santa Rosa, CA 95406
Tel: (855) 559–5463
Fax: (415) 285-0301
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© 2021 Kind LED Grow LightsPowered by Shopify
750w seems like overkill, but I dig the hybrid quantum / bar layout. It's also the most expensive light I've ever seen.
 
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