bodhi seeds

mawasmada

mawasmada

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@Tayloman
@TopShelftrees
Back to the topic of seedfinder having a complete (.."at least 95%..")list of Bodhi gear, I just got into my vault to send out a care package and I currently have 20 strains that aren't on the seedfinder list. 12.5% more than listed, and I'm sure there are waaay more I don't have too.
Some of mine are from his Supernatural Selections, some from his Nierika Seed Trust, freebies, small batch, limited edition, etc.
The list, not alphabetic..
Axis
Soul Axis
Congo Kashmir x Goldstar f4 (LE)
Appalachian Super Skunk
Purple Star
Mango Lotus
Lemon Lotus
Red Lotus
Rajasthani Space Probe
Laughing Lemon
Eternal Sunshine
DLA 12
DLA 15
Chem D x SSDD
Vintage Acapulco Gold
Herbaria's Bushman
Mango Biche x Kashmir
Goldstar x Snow Lotus
Chem 91 Skunk VA x SSDD
Wolfpack
I bet there's 3-4 times what I have that has not made the list.
:peace: bongsmilie
 
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Oldgoat1959

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Just part of a page of testers

88g13/hp x
nl2 #5 (nl dom) x 88g13/hp
genius thai x 88g13/hp
jalabad star 3 x 88g13/hp
pirate sweat x 88g13/hp
gg4 x 88g13/hp
congo kashmir x 88g13/hp
dreadbread x 88g13/hp
ethiopian banana x 88g13/hp
92 master kush x 88g13/hp
train wreck x 88g13/hp
wifi x 88g13/hp
honey mandarine x 88g13/hp
orgasmatron 7 x 88g13/hp
lush x 88g13/hp
lebowski x 88g13/hp
stevie wonder x 88g13/hp
cherry trance x 88g13/hp
tres fighter x 88g13/hp
mothers 31 x 88g13/hp
pure og x 88g13/hp
columbian red x 88g13/hp
mothers milk 31 (big og) x 88g13/hp
mothers milk 5 (candy heart) x 88g13/hp
mendo purps x 88g13/hp

wookie x
mendo purps
williams wonder
a11g
legend/respect
black triangle
congo black
mothers milk 31
honey mandarin
jd cambodian thai
chem 4
kush 4
nl5 pure
blue lotus
ethiopian banana
axis
skywalker
lemon thai indy
lebowski
mendo purps
congo kashmir
mango biche
ha og
cherry trance
lush
cred
master kush
dread bread
dragons blood f4

sunshine daydream x

kush 4
kashmir
3 kings og
butterscotch
mendo purps
wifi
cherry o
axis

old mother ghani x

tigermelon 2
gsc
skunk va
genius thai
chem 4
goji raz
orasmatron
kush 4
pure afghan
axis
jalabad 5
strawberry milk
tripweed
80’s Hawaiian indica
wookie 7
the white
blue lotus
gg4
pinesoul
cherry trance
ogkb
lemon diesel
bubba katsu
dragons blood f4
lemon thai indy
jd cambodian thai

orgasmatron x
fat cherry
cherry trance
pinesoul
goji raz
tk
ssh

misc new:
super silver haze x purple unicorn f3
pinesoul x orgasmatron
skunk va x purple unicorn f3
headband loompa x iraqi
jalabad 5 x strawberry milk
train wreck x kashmir
mango biche x goldstar f4
bandade haze x purple unicorn f3
oretga durian x snow lotus
cherry trance x strawberry milk
tk x iraq
purple pakistani chitral x purple unicorn f3
pure afghan x
 
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Oldgoat1959

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mawasmada said:
Where might a fella pick up some of those Vietnamese x Iraqi ?!
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I have no idea. This is a partial list of 2018 testers. Might be some sitting in a fridge somewhere.
My first Bodhi Seeds purchase in 2016/17 was two packs of Sky Lotus and the freebies was a big pack of miscellaneous long flowering testers that either didn't ever go up for sale or were dropped on floor and/or some other story.
All in one package and I loved growing them out.
Had fun trying to guess what strain they actually were. Liked everything that came from that freebie pack.
 
hillbill

hillbill

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Lemon Wookie 2 in the Vapor Genie for testing. Strong lemon smells and taste plus a sour like a Sour Diesel. Pretty strong, active weed here. Average yield of narrow longish buds, great to train and continues to grow and expand or stretch a little thru flowering. Buds are not quite as tight as I thought but will tighten during cure. Appears to be a heavy feeder.

Bodhi May have another Winner here.
 
supershitfuck

supershitfuck

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Sqwee said:
my little bonsai mother library
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i have a bonsai library as well, but now i'm worried that bonsai-ing the plants, and for a long time, at some point, the genetic of the plant will start to change, i heard of that happening... i'm no expert. some people don't have mother rooms, they clone off the vegging plants before flower repeatedly
 
The Bud Whisperer

The Bud Whisperer

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supershitfuck said:
i have a bonsai library as well, but now i'm worried that bonsai-ing the plants, and for a long time, at some point, the genetic of the plant will start to change, i heard of that happening... i'm no expert. some people don't have mother rooms, they clone off the vegging plants before flower repeatedly
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Welcome @supershitfuck !
I’m no expert either but * “Genetic Drift” i think doesn’t apply to your situation.
Most folks i know don’t keep mothers for space-saving reasons and plant-count restrictions.
*Edited to remove some of my mis-information.
 
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Gentlemencorpse

Gentlemencorpse

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The Bud Whisperer said:
Welcome @supershitfuck ! Sounds like a good super hero name, who projectile-vomits beer as his super-power. (I have done that many times, including in the back of a police car).
I’m no expert either but you don’t need to worry about the genetic changing at all.
“Genetic Drift” is not a scientifically proven concept.
Like all living things, plants can lose vigor as they get older. But only radiation and other major dna-affecting forces will alter the actual genetics.
Most folks i know don’t keep mothers for space-saving reasons and plant-count restrictions.
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So a quick clarification, Genetic Drift is misused in the cannabis community. In science it refers to shifts in the gene pool when a portion of a population is suddenly removed, reducing genetic variation or shifting it towards certain mutations that survive the shift in lieu of the ones that disappear.

When people describe "genetic drift" in cannabis they're actually referring to epigenetics theory, which is a theory that questions whether you can force phenotypical changes to alter inheritable gene expressions without altering the actual genetic make up of an organism.

Im not a botanist so you'll have to bear with me a bit, but essentially the idea is that if a plant has a gene that isn't triggered, and then you force it to trigger so that it shows a different expression, will it's offspring show the new expression as well. The argument usually comes up in the cannabis world when discussing intersex traits due to the long held belief that if you force a plant to show intersex traits for breeding its offspring will be more likely to be intersex, but it could apply to the stress applied to trying to keep a plant alive and a certain size for an extended period. Essentially the idea is that you aren't changing the genetics, your just triggering a latent gene that was already there, changing the phenotype of the plant, and once that's done, any clone taken would obviously show the same phenotypical change.

It's all a theory at the moment, so I'm certainly not stating the above as factual, but I also think we need to keep an open mind on the discussion.

Ive been researching this a lot lately because I'm having a weird experience with my Mass Super Skunk cut. Mom underwent a really stressful period, then the next cutting I ran grew completely differently than the original. Same smell, same taste, but the structure and yield were worlds apart from the first couple runs. I attributed it to my growing so I tried again, but the same result. Now I'm flowering the mom and again, same result. The terps are the same as before, but the plants structure is completely different and the yield is immensely diminished. I'm still not sure what happened, but trying to figure it out basically taught me that I don't know half what I thought I did.

Anyways, sorry for the wall of words guys lol. Just obviously a topic I've had on my mind.

Edit: removed a couple posts I apparently stoney started and never posted lol
 
Rufus T. Firefly

Rufus T. Firefly

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Gentlemencorpse said:
So a quick clarification, Genetic Drift is misused in the cannabis community. In science it refers to shifts in the gene pool when a portion of a population is suddenly removed, reducing genetic variation or shifting it towards certain mutations that survive the shift in lieu of the ones that disappear.

When people describe "genetic drift" in cannabis they're actually referring to epigenetics theory, which is a theory that questions whether you can force phenotypical changes to alter inheritable gene expressions without altering the actual genetic make up of an organism.

Im not a botanist so you'll have to bear with me a bit, but essentially the idea is that if a plant has a gene that isn't triggered, and then you force it to trigger so that it shows a different expression, will it's offspring show the new expression as well. The argument usually comes up in the cannabis world when discussing intersex traits due to the long held belief that if you force a plant to show intersex traits for breeding its offspring will be more likely to be intersex, but it could apply to the stress applied to trying to keep a plant alive and a certain size for an extended period. Essentially the idea is that you aren't changing the genetics, your just triggering a latent gene that was already there, changing the phenotype of the plant, and once that's done, any clone taken would obviously show the same phenotypical change.

It's all a theory at the moment, so I'm certainly not stating the above as factual, but I also think we need to keep an open mind on the discussion.

Ive been researching this a lot lately because I'm having a weird experience with my Mass Super Skunk cut. Mom underwent a really stressful period, then the next cutting I ran grew completely differently than the original. Same smell, same taste, but the structure and yield were worlds apart from the first couple runs. I attributed it to my growing so I tried again, but the same result. Now I'm flowering the mom and again, same result. The terps are the same as before, but the plants structure is completely different and the yield is immensely diminished. I'm still not sure what happened, but trying to figure it out basically taught me that I don't know half what I thought I did.

Anyways, sorry for the wall of words guys lol. Just obviously a topic I've had on my mind.

Edit: removed a couple posts I apparently stoney started and never posted lol
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Genetic drift versus an environmental steering kinda thing?
 
The Bud Whisperer

The Bud Whisperer

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Gentlemencorpse said:
So a quick clarification, Genetic Drift is misused in the cannabis community. In science it refers to shifts in the gene pool when a portion of a population is suddenly removed, reducing genetic variation or shifting it towards certain mutations that survive the shift in lieu of the ones that disappear.

When people describe "genetic drift" in cannabis they're actually referring to epigenetics theory, which is a theory that questions whether you can force phenotypical changes to alter inheritable gene expressions without altering the actual genetic make up of an organism.

Im not a botanist so you'll have to bear with me a bit, but essentially the idea is that if a plant has a gene that isn't triggered, and then you force it to trigger so that it shows a different expression, will it's offspring show the new expression as well. The argument usually comes up in the cannabis world when discussing intersex traits due to the long held belief that if you force a plant to show intersex traits for breeding its offspring will be more likely to be intersex, but it could apply to the stress applied to trying to keep a plant alive and a certain size for an extended period. Essentially the idea is that you aren't changing the genetics, your just triggering a latent gene that was already there, changing the phenotype of the plant, and once that's done, any clone taken would obviously show the same phenotypical change.

It's all a theory at the moment, so I'm certainly not stating the above as factual, but I also think we need to keep an open mind on the discussion.

Ive been researching this a lot lately because I'm having a weird experience with my Mass Super Skunk cut. Mom underwent a really stressful period, then the next cutting I ran grew completely differently than the original. Same smell, same taste, but the structure and yield were worlds apart from the first couple runs. I attributed it to my growing so I tried again, but the same result. Now I'm flowering the mom and again, same result. The terps are the same as before, but the plants structure is completely different and the yield is immensely diminished. I'm still not sure what happened, but trying to figure it out basically taught me that I don't know half what I thought I did.

Anyways, sorry for the wall of words guys lol. Just obviously a topic I've had on my mind.

Edit: removed a couple posts I apparently stoney started and never posted lol
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Thank you, this is an excellent clarification!
(I should have stayed in science class instead of ditching school to get drunk.)
 
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MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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I hope all are having a great Saturday. Gentle mist/sprinkle we so need. Filtered air for us allergy folks. And open the winders type temps.

Space monkeys are looking close to done here. Added a few watts of light to avoid PM that is rampant outside the greenhouse. No issues beyond my failing to rinse diatomaceous earth off way back.

They did not like heat over 98F. Humidity did not matter with adequate CFM. I maxed out my feed at 1050PPM before slight tip burn and claw.

Really close to GG4. Just tamer for growth parameters this run.

My 2 cents. I'll share what I think if needed. Peace. 003.jpg005.jpg006.jpg007.jpg008.jpg009.jpg
 
Cutkeeper

Cutkeeper

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Gentlemencorpse said:
So a quick clarification, Genetic Drift is misused in the cannabis community. In science it refers to shifts in the gene pool when a portion of a population is suddenly removed, reducing genetic variation or shifting it towards certain mutations that survive the shift in lieu of the ones that disappear.

When people describe "genetic drift" in cannabis they're actually referring to epigenetics theory, which is a theory that questions whether you can force phenotypical changes to alter inheritable gene expressions without altering the actual genetic make up of an organism.

Im not a botanist so you'll have to bear with me a bit, but essentially the idea is that if a plant has a gene that isn't triggered, and then you force it to trigger so that it shows a different expression, will it's offspring show the new expression as well. The argument usually comes up in the cannabis world when discussing intersex traits due to the long held belief that if you force a plant to show intersex traits for breeding its offspring will be more likely to be intersex, but it could apply to the stress applied to trying to keep a plant alive and a certain size for an extended period. Essentially the idea is that you aren't changing the genetics, your just triggering a latent gene that was already there, changing the phenotype of the plant, and once that's done, any clone taken would obviously show the same phenotypical change.

It's all a theory at the moment, so I'm certainly not stating the above as factual, but I also think we need to keep an open mind on the discussion.

Ive been researching this a lot lately because I'm having a weird experience with my Mass Super Skunk cut. Mom underwent a really stressful period, then the next cutting I ran grew completely differently than the original. Same smell, same taste, but the structure and yield were worlds apart from the first couple runs. I attributed it to my growing so I tried again, but the same result. Now I'm flowering the mom and again, same result. The terps are the same as before, but the plants structure is completely different and the yield is immensely diminished. I'm still not sure what happened, but trying to figure it out basically taught me that I don't know half what I thought I did.

Anyways, sorry for the wall of words guys lol. Just obviously a topic I've had on my mind.

Edit: removed a couple posts I apparently stoney started and never posted lol
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I’ve heard tissue culture can reverse epigenetic changes. hopefully cost will come down for hobby level growers soon.
 
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