M4S73R's Perpetual Organic LED Grow.

Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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m4s73r said:
Just craft blend from BAS, watered in with Saponin extract and Mikrobs from amazon. Make sure to mulch everything back into the top layer.
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Ok good, I'm glad you said that. How much do you add when reamending? I can't find any conclusive info on that.
 
m4s73r

m4s73r

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Proly not. All these organic growers just throw scoops on stuff. Like for my bed, i throw 1 scoop post harvest. Scoop is about 5 cups. I only do this once every other harvest. Honestly the mulch breaking down from harvest provides everything the plants need. I just help it along with the Mikrobs and the Saponin is to make sure there are not dry spots in the bed. Nutrients to keeps micro/macro nutrients at the proper levels. Truthfully this reamend i did 6 months ago is still breaking down.
 
Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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m4s73r said:
Proly not. All these organic growers just throw scoops on stuff. Like for my bed, i throw 1 scoop post harvest. Scoop is about 5 cups. I only do this once every other harvest. Honestly the mulch breaking down from harvest provides everything the plants need. I just help it along with the Mikrobs and the Saponin is to make sure there are not dry spots in the bed. Nutrients to keeps micro/macro nutrients at the proper levels. Truthfully this reamend i did 6 months ago is still breaking down.
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I believe it. That's a good amount of soil and organic matter to be run thru by microbes, worms, bugs. I've noticed some feedings take a lil longer than others to break down.
 
green_machine_two9er

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m4s73r said:
Proly not. All these organic growers just throw scoops on stuff. Like for my bed, i throw 1 scoop post harvest. Scoop is about 5 cups. I only do this once every other harvest. Honestly the mulch breaking down from harvest provides everything the plants need. I just help it along with the Mikrobs and the Saponin is to make sure there are not dry spots in the bed. Nutrients to keeps micro/macro nutrients at the proper levels. Truthfully this reamend i did 6 months ago is still breaking down.
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Good stuff. Exactly how I look at it. But some stuff its 6years! and still provides nourishment.
 
m4s73r

m4s73r

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The bed watering system has been changed over to a water drip system. The C sprayers were causing tent humidity to skyrocket. So we moved over to this. The last run killed off the cover crop and I have been under watering. Got to checking with the moisture meter and yep its pretty dry. So I have covered it over with plastic, added a couple min to the water timer and its gonna rest for a bit.

Here is the bed right after processing and all mulch/trim thrown back on bed.

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And here is the bed 2 weeks later.

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Coming soon, we will be picking the beds up off the floor onto dollies so i can move them around. It is my objective to create a 10x11 grow room and get out the tents. I may even insulate the whole thing to R10 and cool it down to 60F. The nice thing is there is 2 windows in the room and I can use winter to cool the room way down for hash making.
 
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Inked505

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m4s73r said:
Well yeah, but i mean you will still have to transplant it. No till in at least 30s for sure. But before you get into all that, set yourself up for success. Here is what I'm doing at my inlaws place. Hes got a 4x4 tent. Hes got 4 27 gallon totes. View attachment 4848162 Then we filled 2 of them 3/4 full with handmade soil and a mulch layer. We then planted 2 girls in each pot. When he harvested, everything from the harvest not kept for use was then put into the top of the tote, watered, and the lid was put on it. Both of these were set to the side. Then we repeated this process for the other one. They were stacked and put in the corner. With the 2 empty one we filled them. He is now on a rotation 2 in, 2 out. No holes in the totes. He hand waters and only waters 1 gallon at a time. So in a couple of years he will then dump those into 45gallon ones. And do that for awhile. This allows him to build up over time and not have to drop 350 bucks filling 4x4 bed.
If you need any help setting that up let me know. I did this for 5 years cycle 8 25 gallon pots.
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Can I put a barrier in the middle of this tote and plant two plants? I have been looking at putting these in my 4x4 and doing 2 plants in each one. So 8 plants with around 13gallons of soil to work with in their own spaces. Sound viable?
 
m4s73r

m4s73r

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Sure, but you dont need the barrier. Just make sure that the plants stay the same size and you bloom this early
 
kratos015

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Very incredible work. I don't know why I never saw this thread.

You look like you're only a few cycles off of having yourself a fully self-sustaining closed loop system. Your results and photos certainly reflect that, you can practically feel and smell the life just from the photos.

How does the decaying wood interact with the roots? Does the wood just decompose so quickly that it doesn't hinder root growth? Do the roots grow into the decaying wood? What a very fascinating process, I'd like to learn more about the how and the why as to how all of that works. Any resources for study that you recommend?

Definitely seems like its nothing but benefits. It is less soil you need to make/buy to fill a hole or bed, and that entire rotting log likely turns into compost within a year or so?

My town woodchip pile has plenty of branches and stumps around too, definitely want to incorporate that into any future holes/beds.

Great thread.
 
m4s73r

m4s73r

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kratos015 said:
Very incredible work. I don't know why I never saw this thread.

You look like you're only a few cycles off of having yourself a fully self-sustaining closed loop system. Your results and photos certainly reflect that, you can practically feel and smell the life just from the photos.

How does the decaying wood interact with the roots? Does the wood just decompose so quickly that it doesn't hinder root growth? Do the roots grow into the decaying wood? What a very fascinating process, I'd like to learn more about the how and the why as to how all of that works. Any resources for study that you recommend?

Definitely seems like its nothing but benefits. It is less soil you need to make/buy to fill a hole or bed, and that entire rotting log likely turns into compost within a year or so?

My town woodchip pile has plenty of branches and stumps around too, definitely want to incorporate that into any future holes/beds.

Great thread.
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Thanks.

Yeah I am considering doing nothing to it but mulch and see how many times i can grow till i seem some deficiancy or something. If I ever do.

The roots grow right into it. After while that wood turns into a giant sponge. It breaks down really slow once this happens.

For resources on this look up Hugel Kulture. Or hill culture. This is used in place that are heavily wooded to make farm land. True Hugel Culture take a year to start if you use fresh wood. I got a jump on that part by using year old decomposing wood. Now if you go with a harder wood that is aged a year more like firewood, that shit could take years to fully break down. The smaller stuff goes pretty quick but that log will take a hot minute. Here is a link to my other thread that goes over how i built this style of bed.

Indoor HugelKultur Bed Gorrilla Cookies ChilLed Growcraft x5

I wanted to share my experiment I have going on with my grow. I have started a new bed based around HugelKultur. We will be growing the last 4 clones of Gorilla Cookies (GG#4xGSC). These are being grown under DIY ChilLed Growcraft x5 600w. This is a fresh made soil mix as well. Click Here for a...
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m4s73r

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Welp I got my first bug issue. Sow bugs/rollie pollies/pill bugs, whatever you want to call them. I been having issues regrowing my cover crop. Put out some straw and the next day when i moved it they were EVERYWHERE. So we need to resolve this issue before we plant anything in it. Got the tops off some pumpkins and are pulling them out the bed. plan on dropping in some traps later tonight. I'll take some pics of the traps I use for this issue. This is a easy fix organically. Just don't go crazy and be prepared to fix it over a couple of days.

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The first time i pulled it up, it was covered! You can also use watermelon. I just happen to have these already rotting on my front porch.
 
m4s73r

m4s73r

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Ok so we got some old plastic cups and cut them down to about 3 inches deep and buried them in the bed. Pour in some cheap beer (coors light) We will see how it goes.

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m4s73r

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Well the traps are FULL. 3 days pulling the little bastards out my bed and they still in there. I finally admitted that I needed some help and ordered some Sluggo Plus. Its for organic gardens. I was really trying to not do that, but I have to admit when im beat. I got plants coming, dont have time to be messing around.
Got some pulleys from the hardware store. Going to be switching up light hangers in the back of the tent to some pulleys. I did this already in the Hugelkulture bed. Now I can stand at the front and Adjust all 4 points with out having to walk around it to get the light level. One of these days I will have these attached to electric hoists.


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m4s73r

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So, Sluggo Plus came in, went in to apply and got to flipping over the rocks and Nothing! The beer traps worked. Took about 3 days. Went ahead and sprinkled some on for safety. But that looks to work pretty good. Ill have another update later today on this bed.
 
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