Is Biden really that bad?

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Roger A. Shrubber

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Hey...i didn't used to carry all the time, actually i went years with out ever carrying, but shit's too fucking crazy right now, and i do NOT trust trumptards to act like adults, or even human beings. When our fucked up society goes back to the same appalling heap of shit it was 2 years ago, i'll start leaving it in the safe when i go out again, until then...
 

Fogdog

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The 73 million who voted for That Man when so much evidence of his crimes against the republic was out there suggest a ratio of 3 lost ones to every 1 in the moderate camp. It’s 25 to 1 or worse in Congress.
Anybody who voted for Trump voted for a white supremacist/right wing radical. To me, people who voted for Trump are no different than he is. Hard to say if they reflect the sentiment of the same fraction of non-voters. So, a generous assumption is 73 million right wing radicals out of 360 million total population -- 20% or 1 in five. Less generous assumption is slightly less than half the US population are right wing assholes.

Between the House and Senate there are 264 Republicans holding a seat. 17 of them either voted to impeach or remove him from office after Jan 6.

So, I'd make it, 17/264 or 6% or 6 out of a hundred moderate Republicans currently hold office in Congress.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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The MAGA crowd do seem to go after non threatening soft targets when in large numbers.

they do, and i do not intend to be fucked with by the redneck cocksuckers...
i have no intention of displaying it until i think there is no alternative. i don't walk around with it showing, it's always under my shirt.
i'm not trying to scare anyone, i'd rather surprise them...
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Anybody who voted for Trump voted for a white supremacist/right wing radical. To me, people who voted for Trump are no different than he is. Hard to say if they reflect the sentiment of the same fraction of non-voters. So, a generous assumption is 73 million right wing radicals out of 360 million total population -- 20% or 1 in five. Less generous assumption is slightly less than half the US population are right wing assholes.

Between the House and Senate there are 264 Republicans holding a seat. 17 of them either voted to impeach or remove him from office after Jan 6.

So, I'd make it, 17/264 or 6% or 6 out of a hundred moderate Republicans currently hold office in Congress.
i think so much of this is being orchestrated by Putin and his team of hackers....we really need to do something about them...i personally would just blow up the fucking building in moscow they operate out of...but apparently that is "murder" and could lead to "retaliation"....fucking snowflakes.
so why doesn't the U.S. have it's own team of hackers? we should recruit the best available, and set them up with the best systems and all the red hot cheetos and monster drinks they can swill down, and turn them loose on russia...shut down their power plants, send false withdraw orders to their troops, send misinformation to all their official state run websites, just cause as much havoc as possible in as short a time as possible, and don't let up for a few days, just fuck with everything it is possible to fuck with, while at the same time, doing everything we can to lock our own critical systems down.
 

Fogdog

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Hey...i didn't used to carry all the time, actually i went years with out ever carrying, but shit's too fucking crazy right now, and i do NOT trust trumptards to act like adults, or even human beings. When our fucked up society goes back to the same appalling heap of shit it was 2 years ago, i'll start leaving it in the safe when i go out again, until then...
I hope it's comfortable to carry. Probably you'll be carrying that thing around for five or six more years is my guess. Longer, if Republicans manage to take control in 2024.

It's getting crazy out there.
 

Fogdog

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i think so much of this is being orchestrated by Putin and his team of hackers....we really need to do something about them...i personally would just blow up the fucking building in moscow they operate out of...but apparently that is "murder" and could lead to "retaliation"....fucking snowflakes.
so why doesn't the U.S. have it's own team of hackers? we should recruit the best available, and set them up with the best systems and all the red hot cheetos and monster drinks they can swill down, and turn them loose on russia...shut down their power plants, send false withdraw orders to their troops, send misinformation to all their official state run websites, just cause as much havoc as possible in as short a time as possible, and don't let up for a few days, just fuck with everything it is possible to fuck with, while at the same time, doing everything we can to lock our own critical systems down.
We do have our own set of hackers and there is evidence that the US has used them in psy ops on other countries.

I read some time ago a statement from a person living in an Eastern European country that they have been living with Soviet/Russian propaganda for so long that they have learned to spot it and write it off as nothing to pay attention to.

I think a lot of people in the US already do that. Not enough, but something like half or more do.
 

hanimmal

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i think so much of this is being orchestrated by Putin and his team of hackers....we really need to do something about them...i personally would just blow up the fucking building in moscow they operate out of...but apparently that is "murder" and could lead to "retaliation"....fucking snowflakes.
so why doesn't the U.S. have it's own team of hackers? we should recruit the best available, and set them up with the best systems and all the red hot cheetos and monster drinks they can swill down, and turn them loose on russia...shut down their power plants, send false withdraw orders to their troops, send misinformation to all their official state run websites, just cause as much havoc as possible in as short a time as possible, and don't let up for a few days, just fuck with everything it is possible to fuck with, while at the same time, doing everything we can to lock our own critical systems down.
Imagine if Biden did what Putin does and just announced that we can go hog wild and everyone with a computer/internet in America could just do whatever they wanted to attack the Russian government/people.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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We do have our own set of hackers and there is evidence that the US has used them in psy ops on other countries.

I read some time ago a statement from a person living in an Eastern European country that they have been living with Soviet/Russian propaganda for so long that they have learned to spot it and write it off as nothing to pay attention to.

I think a lot of people in the US already do that. Not enough, but something like half or more do.
it's pretty fucking easy to tell which half it is...
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Imagine if Biden did what Putin does and just announced that we can go hog wild and everyone with a computer/internet in America could just do whatever they wanted to attack the Russian government/people.
i want directed, orchestrated attacks designed to cripple their own efforts to carry out more cyber terrorism, and to let them know in no uncertain terms that we're fed up with their horseshit, and the next step will not be cyber anything, it'll be right in your fucking lying, cheating, fucking faces
 

mooray

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i want directed, orchestrated attacks designed to cripple their own efforts to carry out more cyber terrorism, and to let them know in no uncertain terms that we're fed up with their horseshit, and the next step will not be cyber anything, it'll be right in your fucking lying, cheating, fucking faces
Attacks kind of suck, because you're playing war games at that point. Yes, maybe they started it, but it's very dangerous ground, imo. I'd rather see isolation efforts. Not sanctions, but eliminating just about every direct connection possible, including internet.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Attacks kind of suck, because you're playing war games at that point. Yes, maybe they started it, but it's very dangerous ground, imo. I'd rather see isolation efforts. Not sanctions, but eliminating just about every direct connection possible, including internet.
how do you disconnect the internet from the internet?
or are you just talking about the voting machines? aren't they already not directly connected to the internet?
 

mooray

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how do you disconnect the internet from the internet?
or are you just talking about the voting machines? aren't they already not directly connected to the internet?
Not voting machines and I'm not savvy enough to really answer that, but I suppose you'd block all incoming/outgoing IP connections to russia. I'm not sure how you'd deal with proxy servers, but I suspect there are some ways to block a good chunk of russian connections through them.
 

hanimmal

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i want directed, orchestrated attacks designed to cripple their own efforts to carry out more cyber terrorism, and to let them know in no uncertain terms that we're fed up with their horseshit, and the next step will not be cyber anything, it'll be right in your fucking lying, cheating, fucking faces
I was thinking more of all the 330 million people with their own computers/internet access conducting their own k-pop/anonymous level online attack on any country that thinks it is ok to allow their citizens/military to do the same to us until they agree to stop.

But I understand just like with the Democrats asymmetrical battle with the insurrectionist Republicans having to follow the rules of our nation to keep our democracy safe, that our nation has to hold our own citizens to a higher standard too.

Also as I am typing this, I am also aware that I have likely watched way too many movies growing up.
 

rollupreader

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what do you mean the error of OUR WAYS?

every MAGA deserves the firing squad..those at Insurrection drawn and quartered the remains of which made into wagon wheel grease.

'oh please Mr. Twump don't primary me weweweweweweweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee'.
Ahhh, the tolerant, evolved left... Can't stand anyone that doesn't conform to their way of thinking so they have to go. Idiot.
 

rollupreader

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What is your most accurate and honest opinion, no hyperbole/optimism/pessimism, of the percentage split between the crazy maga types and the maybe-still-half-decent republicans, in both congress and of the republican voter half of the country?
I know Mitch isn't a fan. Not sure about Cotton. But based on all the books put out lately, it's probably just more liberal horse shit. Trump is Trump, polarizing figure due to his personality.
 

rollupreader

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Hey...i didn't used to carry all the time, actually i went years with out ever carrying, but shit's too fucking crazy right now, and i do NOT trust trumptards to act like adults, or even human beings. When our fucked up society goes back to the same appalling heap of shit it was 2 years ago, i'll start leaving it in the safe when i go out again, until then...
Trumptards lol. You should worry more about the crazy libs fool.
 
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