Free speech in the politics section
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Unclebaldrick
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Yeah. I realize that. So rather than me posting sources, why don't you just use Google. Federal assistance numbers are public domain and widely publicized.
Please tell us what you find. Don't just slink away after you find the answer (which you are almost certain to do), post your results.
There are a lot of ways to look at it. You can go by absolute amount of Federal aid, i.e. how much money each state receives per dollar of tax revenue (spoiler: it looks like nine out of the top ten recipients voted for Trump). Or you could do most welfare recipients per capita by state (7 of the top ten voted for Trump and one just barely voted for Biden).
But I'm not new to this. I suspect you won't change your opinion one bit. Finding an open minded Trumper is exceedingly rare.
UncleBuck
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holy fuck youre stupid
UncleBuck
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oh you must be so offended by sexual assault! or even the thought of it!
hence why you support this guy:
UncleBuck
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do you think we dont go to the grocery store?
this happened under trump you fucking retard.
you are a terrible liar
rollupreader
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I'll take a look.
UncleBuck
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL report back with your findings captain retard
rollupreader
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I do find lots of federal aid, and you may be right about the federal aid, but aid does come in many forms and I still believe there are more unemployed dems than republicans. And I think democratic policies support more entitlements. I know people need help, I've been unemployed before. But the system rewards welfare recipients to continue to have kids and not work. I don't think that's a Trump vs Biden thing. I think its a republican vs democrat thing.
hanimmal
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/02/16/the-biggest-beneficiaries-of-the-government-safety-net-working-class-whites/
Working-class whites are the biggest beneficiaries of federal poverty-reduction programs, even though blacks and Hispanics have substantially higher rates of poverty, according to a new study to be released Thursday by the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.
Government assistance and tax credits lifted 6.2 million working-class whites out of poverty in 2014, more than any other racial or ethnic demographic. Half of all working-age adults without college degrees lifted out of poverty by safety-net programs are white; nearly a quarter are black and a fifth are Hispanic.
The result does not simply reflect the fact that there are more white people in the country. The percentage of otherwise poor whites lifted from poverty by government safety-net programs is higher, at 44 percent, compared to 35 percent of otherwise poor minorities, the study concluded.
Among working-class minorities, blacks also benefit significantly from government programs, with 43 percent of otherwise poor blacks being lifted from poverty by the safety net. Only 28 percent of otherwise poor Hispanics were lifted from poverty by these programs.
“There is a perception out there that the safety net is only for minorities. While it’s very important to minorities because they have higher poverty rates and face barriers that lead to lower earnings, it’s also quite important to whites, particularly the white working class,” said Isaac Shapiro, a senior fellow at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities and one of the report’s authors.
The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a left-leaning think tank in Washington, analyzed working-age, non-college educated adult beneficiaries of more than a dozen government benefits, including food stamps, welfare, housing subsidies, tax credits, home energy assistance, school lunch programs, and Social Security.
Without the government programs, 24 percent of whites were poor, compared to 43 percent of blacks and 36 percent of Hispanics. After the programs, 13 percent of whites were poor, compared to 24 percent of blacks and 26 percent of Hispanics.
The researchers did not draw a conclusion from their study as to why working class whites are disproportionately helped by government poverty reduction programs. One possibility is that white Americans are better positioned to know all the government benefits that are available to them, Shapiro said. Whites also benefit more from the Social Security system than minorities, both because they may have paid more into it and they are an older population, he said.
Shapiro said that the low percentage of Hispanic beneficiaries reflects that the Census Bureau counts unauthorized immigrants in the poverty rate, but they are not eligible to receive most government benefits aimed at the poor.
Working-class whites drawn to President Trump’s campaign may be particularly hard hit by the policies of the Trump administration and congressional Republicans, Shapiro said, including the push to dismantle President Obama's health-care reform law and changing the way food stamps and other programs for the poor are administered. The safety net appears to be even more critical, he said, in states with a large share of working-class whites, including the previously blue states of Wisconsin, Iowa and Ohio that flipped to Trump in 2016.
“A missing element of the political conversation has been the degree to which government programs are important to the working class in general, and the white working class in particular,” Shapiro said. “Many of these programs could be the subject of dramatic cuts over the next year. Rather than helping the working class address their basic needs and escape from poverty, the potential political agenda is going to push precisely in the opposite direction.”
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CunningCanuk
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lol. thanks for showing me where I was wrong but I’m gonna believe whatever I want anyway.
Unclebaldrick called it.
xtsho
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CunningCanuk
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xtsho
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It didn't make it into the picture. But they got bacon. Stacks of it. That's an older picture but I was just there the other day and it's just as stocked. I sure do like Chef'Store formerly Cash & Carry. But you have to be prepared to buy in bulk. Gotta be careful in the meat section though. It's easy for a carnivore like me to end up with $300-500 worth of meat at the checkout. I'm still finishing stuff I froze last May.
CunningCanuk
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I’d give up cable tv if I couldn’t afford Charmin.
nuskool89
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Yea they’re out of TP and paper towels here now. Also just other odd items here and there throughout the store. A couple other grocery stores are in fact empty shelved in several isles every time we go now. Meat prices have gone sky high where I live.
I can’t imagine being on a fixed income heading in to the next couple years. Been there in my youth and $10-20 was meaningful money
Unclebaldrick
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You'll believe what you want to. Facts mean nothing to Republicans today for obvious reasons - they have a leftist bias. That's why you believe the fictions that "people say".
You won't understand that - but we're laughing at you.
It isn't a joyful laugh. More of a pitying "gee, I wish these dumbfucks learned something instead of pinning their fortunes on some sort of bloody insurrection" sort of laugh.
Unclebaldrick
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And butt-licks.
CunningCanuk
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This whiney bitch thread needs a recipe. I’m making this tonight, it’s easy. It’s my daughter’s favourite.
CHICKEN ADOBO
Ingredients
CHICKEN AND MARINADE
▢ 750g / 1.5 lb chicken thigh fillets , boneless and skinless (5 - 6 pieces) (Note 1)
▢ 3 garlic cloves , minced
▢ 1/3 cup (85ml) soy sauce , ordinary all purpose or light (not dark soy sauce, Note 2)
▢ 1/3 cup + 2 tbsp white vinegar
▢ 4 bay leaves (fresh) or 3 dried
FOR COOKING
▢ 2 tbsp oil , separated (vegetable, canola or peanut)
▢ 3 garlic cloves , minced
▢ 1 small brown onion , diced
▢ 1 1/2 cups (375 ml) water
▢ 2 tbsp brown sugar
▢ 1 tbsp whole black pepper (sub 2 tsp coarse cracked pepper)
SERVING:
▢ 2 green onions/scallions , sliced (garnish)
Instructions
Combine Chicken and Marinade ingredients in a bowl. Marinate for at least 20 minutes, or up to overnight.
Heat 1 tbsp oil in a skillet over high heat. Remove chicken from marinade (reserve marinade) and place in the pan. Sear both sides until browned – about 1 minute on each side. Do not cook the chicken all the way through.
Remove chicken skillet and set aside.
Heat the remaining oil in skillet. Add garlic and onion, cook 1 1/2 minutes.
Add the reserved marinade, water, sugar and black pepper. Bring it to a simmer then turn heat down to medium high. Simmer 5 minutes.
Add chicken smooth side down. Simmer uncovered for 20 to 25 minutes (no need to stir), turning chicken at around 15 minutes, until the sauce reduces down to a thick jam-like syrup.
If the sauce isn't thick enough, remove chicken onto a plate and let the sauce simmer by itself - it will thicken much quicker - then return chicken to the skillet to coat in the glaze.
Coat chicken in glaze then serve over rice. Pictured in post as a healthy dinner plate (415 calories) with cauliflower rice and Ginger Smashed Cucumbers.
CHICKEN ADOBO
Ingredients
CHICKEN AND MARINADE
▢ 750g / 1.5 lb chicken thigh fillets , boneless and skinless (5 - 6 pieces) (Note 1)
▢ 3 garlic cloves , minced
▢ 1/3 cup (85ml) soy sauce , ordinary all purpose or light (not dark soy sauce, Note 2)
▢ 1/3 cup + 2 tbsp white vinegar
▢ 4 bay leaves (fresh) or 3 dried
FOR COOKING
▢ 2 tbsp oil , separated (vegetable, canola or peanut)
▢ 3 garlic cloves , minced
▢ 1 small brown onion , diced
▢ 1 1/2 cups (375 ml) water
▢ 2 tbsp brown sugar
▢ 1 tbsp whole black pepper (sub 2 tsp coarse cracked pepper)
SERVING:
▢ 2 green onions/scallions , sliced (garnish)
Instructions
Combine Chicken and Marinade ingredients in a bowl. Marinate for at least 20 minutes, or up to overnight.
Heat 1 tbsp oil in a skillet over high heat. Remove chicken from marinade (reserve marinade) and place in the pan. Sear both sides until browned – about 1 minute on each side. Do not cook the chicken all the way through.
Remove chicken skillet and set aside.
Heat the remaining oil in skillet. Add garlic and onion, cook 1 1/2 minutes.
Add the reserved marinade, water, sugar and black pepper. Bring it to a simmer then turn heat down to medium high. Simmer 5 minutes.
Add chicken smooth side down. Simmer uncovered for 20 to 25 minutes (no need to stir), turning chicken at around 15 minutes, until the sauce reduces down to a thick jam-like syrup.
If the sauce isn't thick enough, remove chicken onto a plate and let the sauce simmer by itself - it will thicken much quicker - then return chicken to the skillet to coat in the glaze.
Coat chicken in glaze then serve over rice. Pictured in post as a healthy dinner plate (415 calories) with cauliflower rice and Ginger Smashed Cucumbers.