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Boatguy

Boatguy

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rollupreader said:
The FBI was weaponized. Name one that was indicted for ANYTHING INVOLVING COLLUSION. There weren't any.

He didn't just lie about who he worked for: https://www.justice.gov/sco/pr/grand-jury-indicts-dc-attorney-making-false-statements-fbi-2016-regarding-alleged
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Directly quoted from the link you provided. He is being indicted with lying for not being honest about his clients.

"Sussmann, who had previously represented the Democratic National Committee in connection with a cyber hack, falsely stated to the General Counsel that he was not bringing these allegations to the FBI on behalf of any client. This false representation led the General Counsel to understand that Sussmann was providing information as a good citizen rather than a paid advocate or political operative"
 
CatHedral

CatHedral

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Boatguy said:
Directly quoted from the link you provided. He is being indicted with lying for not being honest about his clients.

"Sussmann, who had previously represented the Democratic National Committee in connection with a cyber hack, falsely stated to the General Counsel that he was not bringing these allegations to the FBI on behalf of any client. This false representation led the General Counsel to understand that Sussmann was providing information as a good citizen rather than a paid advocate or political operative"
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Do you know the man in the boat? Can you arrange an introduction?
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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rollupreader said:
That's what I thought... The idiots are the ones that still believe in collusion by Trump. Reality is Hillary's campaign started all this with that lawyer and the Steele dossier, then rogue FBI Mccabe got to work. Wasted millions and smeared the dude. Trump's no angel, but he's been persecuted for a long time. Dem's fear him because half the country likes him.
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Except there is massive and overwhelming evidence that he did - but so far no definitive proof. That wouldn't stop people like you who don't require such things. The idiots are the ones that deny all the evidence of Trump colluding with Russia while believing things like the election was stolen despite no good evidence whatsoever. Dumb people are not encumbered by such things as proof or facts.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Boatguy said:
Directly quoted from the link you provided. He is being indicted with lying for not being honest about his clients.

"Sussmann, who had previously represented the Democratic National Committee in connection with a cyber hack, falsely stated to the General Counsel that he was not bringing these allegations to the FBI on behalf of any client. This false representation led the General Counsel to understand that Sussmann was providing information as a good citizen rather than a paid advocate or political operative"
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But there were lots of big words so he has an excuse not to understand.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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UncleBuck said:
i already did but you will try to ignore it because youre a bitch

your own family hates you and your fat sickly wife does not respect you
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Well there is certainly proof that Trump lied about his connections with Russia over and over and over. So far I have not seen any actual concrete evidence that he committed treason - its a pretty high bar.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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UncleBuck said:
trump's campaign manager paul manafort was sentenced to prison. in his sentencing memo, the judge gave him a harsher sentence for lying about giving the trump campaigns internal polling data to russian spy konstant kilimnik.

youll pretend i never wrote this because youre a little bitch
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There is concrete evidence that he is a bitch.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Unclebaldrick said:
Well there is certainly proof that Trump lied about his connections with Russia over and over and over. So far I have not seen any actual concrete evidence that he committed treason - its a pretty high bar.
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apnews.com

US says Russia was given Trump campaign polling data in 2016

WASHINGTON (AP) — It was one of the more tantalizing, yet unresolved, questions of the investigation into possible connections between Russia and Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign: Why was a business associate of campaign chairman Paul Manafort given internal polling data — and what did he d
apnews.com apnews.com
 
Boatguy

Boatguy

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Unclebaldrick said:
Well there is certainly proof that Trump lied about his connections with Russia over and over and over. So far I have not seen any actual concrete evidence that he committed treason - its a pretty high bar.
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If egging on his supporters till they breached the capital, isnt. Watching it unfold on tv in the white house and doing nothing, isnt.
You are correct... The bar is quite high
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Boatguy said:
If egging on his supporters till they breached the capital, isnt. Watching it unfold on tv in the white house and doing nothing, isnt.
You are correct... The bar is quite high
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Without a shadow of a doubt he committed sedition. Treason is a different story. You would have to prove he did it to benefit a foreign state.

Fortunately for him, enough Congressmen have sold their country out to further their own ambition that successfully impeached him for sedition was impossible.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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UncleBuck said:
apnews.com

US says Russia was given Trump campaign polling data in 2016

WASHINGTON (AP) — It was one of the more tantalizing, yet unresolved, questions of the investigation into possible connections between Russia and Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign: Why was a business associate of campaign chairman Paul Manafort given internal polling data — and what did he d
apnews.com apnews.com
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I stand corrected. He clearly did collude and certainly lied about it. Direct evidence of treason is a bit more iffy.

Lucky for him, his supporters are ok with that.
 
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rollupreader

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Unclebaldrick said:
Without a shadow of a doubt he committed sedition. Treason is a different story. You would have to prove he did it to benefit a foreign state.

Fortunately for him, enough Congressmen have sold their country out to further their own ambition that successfully impeached him for sedition was impossible.
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Trump stood in front of a national audience and said peaceful. Again video doesn't lie...
 
Boatguy

Boatguy

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rollupreader said:
Trump stood in front of a national audience and said peaceful. Again video doesn't lie...
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“That was the one time, the only time, President Trump used the word ‘peaceful’ or any suggestion of non-violence,” Rep. Madeleine Dean of Pennsylvania, one of the Democratic impeachment managers, said during the trial. “President Trump used the word ‘fight’ or ‘fighting’ 20 times.”
 
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rollupreader

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Boatguy said:
“That was the one time, the only time, President Trump used the word ‘peaceful’ or any suggestion of non-violence,” Rep. Madeleine Dean of Pennsylvania, one of the Democratic impeachment managers, said during the trial. “President Trump used the word ‘fight’ or ‘fighting’ 20 times.”
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Bottom line-he used t...and it was just prior to the riot...
 
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