hello its been day 60 already and my flowers are really small

Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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There lies the problem …. “ Big Bloom “

Out of Fox Farm Trio - this is the only organic out of the 3 ….. however the name alone isnt really what it does. It is geared to keep the microbial population in medium happy and their job. Your plant needs far more than that to run bloom.

As i see it also you are in Miracle Grow - which is very nute dense - high in nitrogen ( not what plants need in bloom ) ( darkleaf color ) - bad thing about MC is that it has pelletized nutes meaning EVERYTIME you water it “ feeds “ even when you are trying to move to a “ lower nitrogen/ higher PK “ bloom feed.

High nitrogen “ can “ impact some bud formation ( smaller / malformed ) because of excess. However some growers have used this soil. Autos can at times be overwhelmed by over feeding and under preform.

I would IMO run this as a water only grow ( as needed ) so plant can work thru medium as best it can .

WITHOUT anything else added to plant.
 
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richnof

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Budzbuddha said:
There lies the problem …. “ Big Bloom “

Out of Fox Farm Trio - this is the only organic out of the 3 ….. however the name alone isnt really what it does. It is geared to keep the microbial population in medium happy and their job. Your plant needs far more than that to run bloom.

As i see it also you are in Miracle Grow - which is very nute dense - high in nitrogen ( not what plants need in bloom ) ( darkleaf color ) - bad thing about MC is that it has pelletized nutes meaning EVERYTIME you water it “ feeds “ even when you are trying to move to a “ lower nitrogen/ higher PK “ bloom feed.

High nitrogen “ can “ impact some bud formation ( smaller / malformed ) because of excess. However some growers have used this soil. Autos can at times be overwhelmed by over feeding and under preform.

I would IMO run this as a water only grow ( as needed ) so plant can work thru medium as best it can .

WITHOUT anything else added to plant.
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so ur saying just give it 1.5 l everyday
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Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Why I hate those miracle grow commercials ( pretty much any commercial) they show bountiful fruit harvests using their products with everyone smiling over picture perfect fruit and flowers - BULLSHIT.

Like those burger commercials that show a sandwich perfect and bigger than your head - go there get your shit and it looks like somebody sat on it .

Autos can be run completely from start to finish on a simple bagged potting mix with few interval “feeding / recharging “ by way of just top dressing SAME original soil and watering in.

For example :

FFOF in bottom 1/3 of container
Top fill remainder with mild potting mix
( Light Warrior / Pro mix / Sunshine 4 / Happy Frog / Kelloggs and a host of others )

Auto wont be overwhelmed by nute heavy mix initially so the time it stabs into FFOF , bottom is more charged and will bump up nutes based on plant needs. Then top dress FFOF at intervals thru out grow stages to recharge what has depleted … no magic bottles … no guessing and even on tap water.
 
farangar

farangar

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Make sure your light is not too far away, place your hand under the light and when it feels slightly warm you have found the sweet spot.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Budzbuddha said:
Why I hate those miracle grow commercials ( pretty much any commercial) they show bountiful fruit harvests using their products with everyone smiling over picture perfect fruit and flowers - BULLSHIT.

Like those burger commercials that show a sandwich perfect and bigger than your head - go there get your shit and it looks like somebody sat on it .

Autos can be run completely from start to finish on a simple bagged potting mix with few interval “feeding / recharging “ by way of just top dressing SAME original soil and watering in.

For example :

FFOF in bottom 1/3 of container
Top fill remainder with mild potting mix
( Light Warrior / Pro mix / Sunshine 4 / Happy Frog / Kelloggs and a host of others )

Auto wont be overwhelmed by nute heavy mix initially so the time it stabs into FFOF , bottom is more charged and will bump up nutes based on plant needs. Then top dress FFOF at intervals thru out grow stages to recharge what has depleted … no magic bottles … no guessing and even on tap water.
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Dank Bongula

Dank Bongula

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richnof said:
he said just stick to water bc mircle grow is dense with nutes loll
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Yes.

And you somehow interpreted that to say "add 1.5l of water everyday" loll

He also said "as needed". I am clarifying the "as needed" part for you because you somehow got something different from his statement.
 
LeastExpectedGrower

LeastExpectedGrower

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Is your soil really drying out to the point where you're doing 1.5 liters per day? MG is fairly dense when I use it around the house and in the garden. I don't use it in my tent.

-As needed does mean when the soil gets dry down to about 3" so don't go on autopilot and just water it every day. Feel the soil down 3" and if it's no longer damp down there, water it.

-Lights Download Photone or another halfway decent app and measure your lights at the canopy to make sure you're in the right zone.

-Don't worry about plant height. Autos can run short, it's the Ruderalis in them. focus less on that and more on making the best environment for what you do have. My current run, the tallest is 22 inches. Not complaining, I've done everything to correct what I did wrong and I've got at least one plant that's 22" but about 20" of that is bud.

There's a handful of MG aficionados here best to get their idea on how to make it work. Most growers won't touch it.
 
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