Mars Hydro SP-3000 vs Dutch Passion - Orange Hill Special (Supersoil)

BioBuds

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My seedlings are in coco & 2 weeks old I feed 1gr. megacrop per gal I have a journal started the title is in my signature on my avatar I'm at the slowest part of the grow right now the strain I'll be running is superlemonhaze-×- las Vegas triangle kush from esosseeds.com it's called superlemon crush the title of my thread at bottom of this post
Ah I'll check your grow!! Good luck!!!
 

horribleherk

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Ah I'll check your grow!! Good luck!!!
Come on by pretty lonely on my thread lol thanks for the kind words so far no input or comments from mars-hydro or anyone else for that matter I'm really liking the light & tent so far coming up I've gotta figure my scrog out considering buying a stretchable one that hooks to the tent poles the easy way out
 
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BioBuds

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Week 5, Vegetation

What a beautiful strain Orange Hill Special is, nice and bushy, great internodal spacing, sturdy and healthy. Happier and happier with how this grow is going. The less beautiful parts on top are my doing, my 'blind as a bat' FIM destroyed half the top of the plant. More patience next time...


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The super soil is still performing great and I´m pushing up the dimmer to get the ladies used to more light, very carefully because leaves are folding every time.

Some of you might be happy to find my European recipe/shopping list in above posts for super soil. I tried to make it with widely offered products throughout Europe. Feel free to use it and elaborate on it.

If one product is not available in your country, please check the brands at the bottom, which might be available in your country, and substitute.
The only thing one could add to the recipe (which I did but forgot in the shopping list) is some Epsom salt.

Fed them again with my permaculture tea, all seem to flourish and smells are starting to come from the plant, with that same distinct dankiness I had in earlier grows with this tea. See the first post and other diaries for more info on my Perma tea.

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Now they were big enough, some might even say too big, to start the real training. I always love to give them a little bed the week before, to get used to the idea. With some sterilized bamboo sticks I pushed the plants down to expose their sexy undersides. Let them become forests of buddy bush.

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That's it for this week! Thanks for following and happy growing!!
 
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horribleherk

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Looking good slow but sure I'm getting progress on mine as well good job on the orange this is gonna really take off soon
 

BioBuds

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Yes had a couple of weeks delay because of stress, the seeding soil I used was not very good for them... But they are catching up, was planning a longer veg anyway.
 

horribleherk

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As you've seen I'm a lot better with clones than I am at starting seeds I usually clone whatever I'm running when I flip to 12/12 then veg the clones while my grow finishes clones are generally faster to bud after flipping the light 15-21 days I've had seedlings take longer than that & all the while stretching in height
 

BioBuds

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As you've seen I'm a lot better with clones than I am at starting seeds I usually clone whatever I'm running when I flip to 12/12 then veg the clones while my grow finishes clones are generally faster to bud after flipping the light 15-21 days I've had seedlings take longer than that & all the while stretching in height
Yeah I have that too, Im still finding my way for the ideal seeding environment, a little presoak in warm water, then straight to seeding soil but leaving it in there for a 2 week period max. Then I switch to my own super rsoil recipe.

When my seedlings are stretching I put the light a little lower and fan higher, keeps them nice and bushy.
 

BioBuds

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Week 6: Vegetation

The grow has been going great! If you don't count the about a thousand fungus gnats I have been fighting.

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I'm manually manifolding and training the girls, into the desired shape, which is a bit hands-on but I see it as a collaboration more than a 50 shades approach to training.

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Some hand training, only thing holding the plant is a split bamboo stick. Rest is all daily training.​

You can't just bust out a rope and domination on girls like that. We ease it in there, going to the limit every time, making them stretch and curl underneath the touch of our tender but firm hands. And when they are used to a little groping and fixation, we might bring out a few ropes here and there to spice it up a little. Anywaaaays.... I'm getting carried away here, back to the grow.

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Former unused attic, now my slice of gardening heaven.​

I had bought some coco-peat, after leaving none for the top layer as I suggested to all of you in the previous weeks of my grow (if you missed it, click one week back for a full recipe (the yellow image) for everyone in Europe) left me with enormous amounts of fungus gnats.
Its seems to alleviate the problem already. As it did with my previous grow the Gelato 33 Golden Canopy from Heaven.

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Pretty different strains: from L to R Xtrakush (landrace), Orange Hill Special, Expert Gorrila
In the meantime I notice my temperatures going down so Im trying to fix that too. All in all it had been a good week and this Orange Hill Special is promising to become something special!



Thanks for visiting again, see you soon!
 

horribleherk

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A lot of my problems with this round of seedlings I created in my haste to create the mars hydro thread I have this portable nursery I made for an environment for seedlings & clones but neglected to use it it allows me to grow seedlings & clones to a height of about 1/4-M tall I made it out of a 40w. salvaged led counter light & a tote that accepts a humidity dome & heatmat that can be removed &6 one liter pots put in place as well by fitting it all in this tote makes me able to use it just about anywhere 20211023_125507.jpg20211023_125559.jpg20211023_125624.jpg
 

BioBuds

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You are also quite the inventor! I like to hobby my own solutions too! Im very proud of my horizontal tower oscillating fan. Easy fix to multiple problems and working like a charm!
 

horribleherk

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You are also quite the inventor! I like to hobby my own solutions too! Im very proud of my horizontal tower oscillating fan. Easy fix to multiple problems and working like a charm!
I used a tower fan mounted in one corner of the tent where its sweeping motion covered the entire canopy
 

BioBuds

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Week 7 - Vegetation

They are going slow but steady. Holding back on watering to help fight the gnats. They were with too many last week. Some yellow points because of an 'on the limit' foliar feed. Nothing to worry about.

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Still very lush greens. I'm thinking the main reason for their slower growth, is the fan that is on high. My mission from the start s to get thick stalks and branches, to facilitate larger buds.

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Also, I'm pushing the SP 3000 to its max for the age of my plants, they don't have to reach for the light, resulting in shorter, bushier plants. I don't mind, I think the flowering stretch will make up for that and fill the tent.

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Still very happy with the SP-3000 from Mars Hydro, a much more constant and manageable climate in the tent, a dream to work with. Check out the great deals on: www.mars-hydro.com

I'm thinking one or two more weeks before resetting the light schedule for flowering. I'm already late and if another week will deliver bigger and more buds, I will give them what they need.

For those living in Europe, wanting to try super soil, see my recipe in the images above!
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Thank you for following and your likes and support! It really keeps me motivated. Big Hug Bud
 

PadawanWarrior

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Come on by pretty lonely on my thread lol thanks for the kind words so far no input or comments from mars-hydro or anyone else for that matter I'm really liking the light & tent so far coming up I've gotta figure my scrog out considering buying a stretchable one that hooks to the tent poles the easy way out
Your link doesn't work. At least for me.
 

Eastownclan

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I’m following along now, just stumbled on this. I’m sitting on some Orange Hill Special seeds, probably run after my California Oranges are done. I wanted to see what the difference was between the two strains.D72ACD18-09E7-46A4-94F5-0864C5991ED9.jpeg
 

sdboltdude

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Thanks for posting
Just got a Mars Hydro sp3000
Love your soil recipe can't wait to try it

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Hi my sticky fingered friends,

A major surprise came when Mars Hydro Global Store contacted us and asked if would like to try out their new SP 3000 light. Being a fan of Mars Hydro for years, we of course accepted their offer. We are totally in love with this light. I was when I saw it in another growers setup and was in awe with its output and results.
So with much pride and thankfulness for the presents the Universe bestowed on us, in the form of MarsHydroLEDS offer and the bountiful harvest of the last grow, (which I am thouroughly enjoying btw, such a great weed to have grown ourselves) we start out on a new adventure that we can't wait to share with you.

With many lessons learned from the previous grow, a mighty producing strain in the form of Expert Seeds Gorrilla Glue #4, a.k.a Expert Gorilla's and a tweaked supersoil mixture, we are setting out to hopefully get over a gram per watt, preferably 1.5.

The Setup

A 4.5 (140 cm) x 2(70) x 6.2 (200) growtent, giving me a .98 m2 workspace. This space is customized to my needs.
A standing fan will provide airflow trhough the whole grow, a top fan will help guide cooler air past my lights onto the grow.
3 56 ltr pots will be the home for the plants when they are 2 weeks old, up to then in smaller jars.

The Light

The leading role and star of the show, will be played by the Mars Hydro SP-3000, so kindly provided by MarsHydroLED, which we will test and review here and I might say, endorse. This light is a beast!! 300 watts, 2.8 uMol super efficient!!


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The Strain

Ooooooooh very excited about this strain from Dutch Passion, which Im a great fan of, all their previous work too Ive gotten to know when during my teens I frequented many a Ducth coffeeshop. World renowned, one of the oldest seedbanks in the world. White Widow, Skunk No 11, Blueberry and Power Plant are couple of their classics that the whole world know about.

It was a hard decission, Im a big fan of their classics, but this Orange Hill intrigued me and since I miss the good Orange Buds of old, I wanted to see for myself what this baby can do.

Orange Hill Special®️
Orange Bud X Californian Orange Regular Feminized

Plant size: XXL
Flowering time: 8 weeks
Species: HybridOrange Family
Prize Winner
Indoor
THC: Extremely High

This variety offers unsurpassed quality in terms of aroma, taste and effect. A small percentage of the plants can develop male flowers, which is expressed most heavily when plants suffer from severe stress. It is advised to check your plants thoroughly during flowering and act immediately before the male flowers open and pollinate the other plants.

We have two kinds, with the Expert Gorillas aswell, prone go hermie on me here... So they might grow to love each other. It seems that having many of the same sex in one enclosed space leading to romance is not a phenomenon restricted to Ships and prisons. I must keep a close eye on it though, although personally not preud or conservative, NO FUNNY BUSINESS or hanky panky in this growroom... Ladies...

She has germinated and will be transplanted to a small little pot with some sowing soil and some water PH 6.4 until large enough to be transfered!!


The Soil

Those who saw my Monstercropped Gelato #33 grow (you should see it if you didn't, im so proud of that grow), know about my supersoil and organic nutrients/ permaculture tea combo that starred in my previous diary.
Because of the great results we are going to use the same recipe, adjusted some more with some new ingredients that will complete the mix and give an even more sustained supersoil buffer.

View attachment 498618720% Atami Bi-grow (very similar to ocean forest)
20% Atami worm castings
20% Atami Coco Coir
10% Hydrocorn
10% Peat powder
1 cup Fossil seaweed chalk
1 cup bonemeal
1 cup bloodmeal
1 cup Microlife
3-4 teaspoons of epsom salt
3 cups of activated biochar (activated with our own permaculture tea)

I just made layers, starting with hydrocorn on the bottom to aid airflow / run-off. On this I started layering the cococoir, Bi-grow, peat, castings and amendments in a waythat the more mature the plants get, the more phosphorous and less nitrogen they will find. Every time I made three layers, I would mix them by hand. This way we simulate natural soil, which consists of humic layers, composting plant waste, fungal and microbial life and nutrients from fossilized sources.

The Nutrients

I will start with just adding 6.4 PH water, although this soil should buffer ph itself and regulate, after 4 weeks, I'll slowly be adding:

- Biobizz Grow
- Plagron Alga Grow
- Biobizz CalMag

- Biobizz Flower
- Plagron Alga Flower
- Biobizz Topmax
- Melasses

The Tea

Some of you might remember the permaculture tea from my previous grow, I have a short video in my harvestpage showing how we make it), it will star again in this grow.

- (Rain)water
- Comfrey (whole plants)
- Dandelion leaves
- Roots and leaves from the earlier grow
- Minor perriwinkle (Finca minor) this is a plant we have in our garden, it contains an alkaloid that is associated with increased brain function but also is a light toxine for wee beasties and other unwanted guests like gnats (who hate it).
- When flowering I add some woodash to this mix

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Thank you for checking in on one of my grows again!

Hug

Bud







 

sdboltdude

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Come on by pretty lonely on my thread lol thanks for the kind words so far no input or comments from mars-hydro or anyone else for that matter I'm really liking the light & tent so far coming up I've gotta figure my scrog out considering buying a stretchable one that hooks to the tent poles the easy way out
I'm here to..
 

BioBuds

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I’m following along now, just stumbled on this. I’m sitting on some Orange Hill Special seeds, probably run after my California Oranges are done. I wanted to see what the difference was between the two strains.
What I have learned from now is she really enjoys the soil/light setup. She is lush and green and takes to the environment like a dream.
She smells really orangy already! The only warning that also Dutch Passion gives and I've seen with other (pretty experienced) growers, is it is prone to hermie in stressful conditions.

If stress is only from lighting and feeding problems or also from LST.... I've seen several grows by guys that know what they are doing go to the bin cause of this.

Good luck though, so far she is a dream to grow...
 

BioBuds

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Thanks for posting
Just got a Mars Hydro sp3000
Love your soil recipe can't wait to try it
Oooh you will love the light! The SP-3000 is amazing so far! ANd the soil mix you will also like! Be stingy with the amendments, maybe even doing 2 cups where it says 3 and adding more when going to flowering.

I do just a 1 in 3 day feed. Starting with the soil wet, then just feeding from two weeks up by one to two cups, up to 3 liters at the point where I am now.I also do some foliar feeding.

Let me know when you start!! Good luck!!
 

Eastownclan

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What I have learned from now is she really enjoys the soil/light setup. She is lush and green and takes to the environment like a dream.
She smells really orangy already! The only warning that also Dutch Passion gives and I've seen with other (pretty experienced) growers, is it is prone to hermie in stressful conditions.

If stress is only from lighting and feeding problems or also from LST.... I've seen several grows by guys that know what they are doing go to the bin cause of this.

Good luck though, so far she is a dream to grow...
Thanks man, I’ll remember that.
 

sdboltdude

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Oooh you will love the light! The SP-3000 is amazing so far! ANd the soil mix you will also like! Be stingy with the amendments, maybe even doing 2 cups where it says 3 and adding more when going to flowering.

I do just a 1 in 3 day feed. Starting with the soil wet, then just feeding from two weeks up by one to two cups, up to 3 liters at the point where I am now.I also do some foliar feeding.

Let me know when you start!! Good luck!!
That's what I like about live soil less nutts.
Watering I'm hands on have to poke the soil feel it & become one with soil..
I usually use Roots Organics Lush soil then add worm castings and tea..
my hydro shop will give us a free gallon of pee every week good quality tea
 
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