Kassiopeija
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isn'i it there are many PGR's hidden unlabeled in organic plant-food/additives even household stuff like coconut water there's hormones in....
Exotics, PGRS, Foilars, "snake oil"
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jondamon
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@DesperateFarmer fyi derived from coconut
Cytokinin is a plant hormone that induces growth and development.
Cytokinin is a plant hormone that induces growth and development.
jondamon
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DesperateFarmer
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Forchlorfenuron is one those exotic cytokinins it causes rapid growth. Some guy exploded melons with it in China. It will absolutely buy time in melons. Apply after fruit set but very early like if fruits bigger than your fingers it's gonna probably split. If no rain won't so anything. Melons like high potash and starve out N late like tobacco. As to harsh smoke while I'm on tobacco, if you can use very little chloride or chlorines you will massively improve smoke quality probably as that is the entire reason the Carolinas and a chunk of Massachusetts and Georgia can grow flue and wrapper tobacco, low soil chlorides. If your hydro is harsh maybe potassium source is chloride based or chlorinated water possibly. Less than will stunt plant will ruin quality of tobacco. Sorry way way off topic. Farming, expensive lessons. Maybe you can take em use em and be a tad bit less angry...
DesperateFarmer
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Lol it's kinda related. Kinda. I mean I'm interested in anything and everything. Experiences. Sure I can read a paper on it, but who knows maybe sts dosent work as well with a CO2 generator throwing off ethylene in exhaust. More tobacco knowledge. Who knows. That's what I wanna know. I wanna know how it worked for some of y'all. Not an ethics war. I love growing stuff and y'all must too.
GarageGardener69
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This is very interesting.. I have only recently heard of PRGs and didn’t know they where used in so many foods too!
could one argue that if introduced early on; perhaps 2/3rd’s of initial growth and then not used on the last 1/3 of the grow would it have an ill affect?
could one argue that if introduced early on; perhaps 2/3rd’s of initial growth and then not used on the last 1/3 of the grow would it have an ill affect?
NanoGadget
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Ethics should ALWAYS be at the forefront in any discussion about consumable crops. Any time someone starts a conversation by stating that ethics should be omitted from it my fuckery detector starts going off.
DesperateFarmer
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Yea well feel free to go all Walden pond cause there's plenty of fuckery at the grocery store. The point was I wanted to see what people were doing and results etc, but like my wonderful ethics professor would say everyone wants to insert ethos into every conversation about science. I get it. You don't like Pgr. Go make a thread called I don't like Pgr.
Lordhooha
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All I know is anything synthetic pgr wise will light up testing resulting in me having to destroy 100’s of lbs. @Locktopus dude Im organic and don’t seem to have any issue hitting 27+% last hit 31% and some change from my slurricane #7 run . Honestly I focus on terpenes more than thc anyways. But with a good terpene profile and percentage comes good thc numbers. of course I should have known you’re a pro flush person too…….with coconut water of all things. Sad there’s nothing flushing does for your plants to start with. Also a properly setup room can keep up with a hydro run.
I'm not an expert, but eating and smoking are different things... I didn't read the complete post so maybe someone mentioned it before, and you should probably know this already.. But food and smoke should never be considered the same thing when it comes to consumption.
When you burn a food chemical it becomes a different chemical that was not meant to be, and goes directly into lungs where it's not meant to go. And then it quickly goes to the bloodstream, heart and brain.. The company that made the chemicals for grape and kiwi consider it safe for eating, but they don't mention smoking.. Alcohol is considered safe for consumption when you drink it, but try burning it and inhaling the fumes directly to your lungs and brain, or try putting alcohol in the eyes.. And also sugar is safe for consumption, but if you would smoke sugar fumes you would probably have caramelized lungs or something.. Eating fruit with toxic chemicals may take years to cause an illness, but smoking toxic chemicals can be dangerous immediately.. Chemicals on fruit was tested for years by professionals, experts, scientists, doctors, biologists, chemists etc. they used lab-animals and other experiments.. They created a standard for maximum allowed toxicity so it's considered safe to consume..
But how are you gonna test it all by yourself? Are you just going to sell toxic weed to customers and wait to see if they get ill? Or will you smoke it yourself for years until something happens to you? This is not about ethics either, just a serious question..
I smoked many different toxic weeds bought from the streets because it's illegal where i live and i was unfamiliar with these chemicals. The weed always looked and smelled good, and only after smoking i realized it was contaminated.. I got many health issues from it, especially the lungs and the eye, but also gums and teeth.. I still remember one day i got some really pungent smelling weed that looked incredibly frosty, it looked like the best weed in the world, but it was grown with some chemicals and i almost went blind on one eye for a month.. I still have issues in this eye from it.. Really not worth it for few extra dollars
When you burn a food chemical it becomes a different chemical that was not meant to be, and goes directly into lungs where it's not meant to go. And then it quickly goes to the bloodstream, heart and brain.. The company that made the chemicals for grape and kiwi consider it safe for eating, but they don't mention smoking.. Alcohol is considered safe for consumption when you drink it, but try burning it and inhaling the fumes directly to your lungs and brain, or try putting alcohol in the eyes.. And also sugar is safe for consumption, but if you would smoke sugar fumes you would probably have caramelized lungs or something.. Eating fruit with toxic chemicals may take years to cause an illness, but smoking toxic chemicals can be dangerous immediately.. Chemicals on fruit was tested for years by professionals, experts, scientists, doctors, biologists, chemists etc. they used lab-animals and other experiments.. They created a standard for maximum allowed toxicity so it's considered safe to consume..
But how are you gonna test it all by yourself? Are you just going to sell toxic weed to customers and wait to see if they get ill? Or will you smoke it yourself for years until something happens to you? This is not about ethics either, just a serious question..
I smoked many different toxic weeds bought from the streets because it's illegal where i live and i was unfamiliar with these chemicals. The weed always looked and smelled good, and only after smoking i realized it was contaminated.. I got many health issues from it, especially the lungs and the eye, but also gums and teeth.. I still remember one day i got some really pungent smelling weed that looked incredibly frosty, it looked like the best weed in the world, but it was grown with some chemicals and i almost went blind on one eye for a month.. I still have issues in this eye from it.. Really not worth it for few extra dollars
Lordhooha
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Where in the fuck do you weed that makes you go blind ?? You must get that shit sprinkled with crack.
NanoGadget
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You aren't nearly as clever as you seem to think you are. My objection was to the general notion of leaving ethics out of conversations involving consumable crops, not PGR specifically. Additionally, pointing to agribusiness putting potentially dangerous shit in our food as justification for you doing the same is the dumbest fucking argument I've heard in long while.
mudballs
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drug dealers and illegit substance users...talking about ethics....is there a bigger
"dumbest fucking argument I've heard in long while."
ill let you know when your credibility has been restored (ignores poster)
speedwell68
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I have done some reading on this PGR stuff over the last hour and I think I'll stay as I am. My weed is decent, my yields are ok. Whilst there is room for improvement there is no need to do it with a potential risk to health. I'll put my faith in some nice rich medium and a seaweed based fertiliser.
It has been an interesting thread though.
It has been an interesting thread though.
jondamon
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But it’s medication bro!
“I didn’t get my MMJ card to get stoned, I got it to have access to my meds”
“my meds need to be clean to be of most benefit to me and my ailments”
sure bro how do you take your meds?
“I combust them in a blunt or a bong”
Now I’m not saying MMJ isn’t a help etc but if you still combust cannabis you’re doing yourself more harm from your “meds” anyway lol.
green_machine_two9er
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Boooo!!!! Sorry but my organic will test higher higher snd be more vigorous, and be faster growing and more bad ass in every way. Just have to defend my peoples.
Edit. Also on par with yields. Cause that the arguement when all my first points are true.
NanoGadget
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what an ignorant little twat. I'm so heartbroken that he won't see all the wonderful things I post.
NanoGadget
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Let me see if I understand your reasoning via an analogy. Skydiving is for many, an inherently dangerous but immensely enjoyable and cathartic experience. Given the fact that a danger exists in choosing to participate, does that then justify the manufacturer building defects or additional hazards into the gear people use to go skydiving? Cause, you know, fuck em', shouldn't have been skydiving if they didn't want a defective chute... Sound about right?
DesperateFarmer
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Bigger issue was I started the thread to ask about what people have had success with, their experiences. Even I acknowledge some of this stuff is probably too dangerous. But once again like every one of these threads I read prior to posting this one, offering my experiences to see if anyone had done similarly, I got this. This goddamn hippie I smokie organic dope crowd. I got ha. Some kid smoked some plastic dipped weed and almost went blind. Y'all can grow some killer weed without chemicals. Cool cool. This thread aint for you. I'm not trying to cram nuclear weed down your throat. I'm asking, did a person ever try xyz, what happened. For example humic acid in res or soil and fluvic acid as a foilar. That's not a Pgr. What? Oh no cancer!!?