Exotics, PGRS, Foilars, "snake oil"

jondamon

jondamon

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Plant growth regulators can be defined as chemicals which signal to regulate and control growth of plants. They are also referred to as plant growth hormones or Phytohormones. Plant growth hormones are organic compounds which are eithe produced naturally within the plants or are synthesised in laboratories.

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speedwell68

speedwell68

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jondamon said:
Erm not really.

I use one organic PGR triacantonol.

ill bet the Organics you use contain more than just one naturally occurring PGR!

my argument is most people who shout about their meds and organically grown for cleaner better product etc don’t even realise that combustion is what creates the greatest risk, and the Alfalfa meal, Coconut water, Kelp and seaweed products they are using, contain naturally occurring PGR’s.

just like the 1 single naturally occurring PGR that I’ve been using during Veg that’s derived from beeswax.
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I concur, you can preach all you like about the cleanliness of your organic weed, but that all goes out the window as soon as you light it. Weed smoke is full of tar and carcinogens just the same as any other smoke.

I don't know enough about PGRs to comment really. As I have learned they occur organically and that the seaweed based nutes I use probably contain them. Whilst I am not a fully organic hippy type, some of the stuff they use is horrifically bad for the environment, I don't see the point in forcing a plant to perform, I'd rather it be as natural a process as possible using the least amount of synthetic chemicals as possible.

I will continue to follow this thread with interest as I have learned a lot, once I got past all the cock waving and handbags at dawn.
 
madvillian420

madvillian420

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OG-KGP said:
Gravity by Humboldt was a great product (ethics aside). Added density and weight to all flowers it touched. I think I still have a couple bottles laying around somewhere. It never listed the ingredients on the bottle, imagine that.

I also still use a humic / fulvic / amino acid.
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I remember being super stoked about the many sample bottles humboldt gave me several years ago, someone sent me the MSDS on some of the ingredients, nothing grows good bud like jet fuel additives i guess.
 
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OG-KGP

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madvillian420 said:
I remember being super stoked about the many sample bottles humboldt gave me several years ago, someone sent me the MSDS on some of the ingredients, nothing grows good bud like jet fuel additives i guess.
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The mystery bottle. 0-0-0.01 with no ingredients listed at all. Grew massive rock hard buds. 2 drops per gallon and not a drop more or it would fry everything in touched.

I'm curious what the MSDS listed. I wouldn't be surprised if you could dump a bottle in a gas tank boost the octane several points. I believe they banned it 10 years ago or so. Again, ethics aside, and I really didn't know what it was 15 years ago but for a snake oil, holy shit did it do what it said it would. Still never seen anything that could perform like that shit.
 
Samwell Seed Well

Samwell Seed Well

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MSDS was how the fed/epa classified chemical data sheets like 4 years ago....

since 2017 i believe its SDS


lol, no wonder yall cant deduce toxicology reports let alone interpret their data.

but yes, all the things you dont understand are really scary

and really PGRs deserve your respect and attention, but oh well.
 
madvillian420

madvillian420

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Samwell Seed Well said:
MSDS was how the fed/epa classified chemical data sheets like 4 years ago....

since 2017 i believe its SDS


lol, no wonder yall cant deduce toxicology reports let alone interpret their data.

but yes, all the things you dont understand are really scary

and really PGRs deserve your respect and attention, but oh well.
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this was years ago, as i said. "lol"

nice try though.
 
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