Anyone else watching the Kyle Rittenhouse trial?

[PopAndSonGrows]

I’m saying it comes down to if they can prove it wasn’t self defense. Our emotional feelings about his age, if he should be there or not, or if those other guys were criminals doesn’t matter.

My post wasn't emotional. It was bare fact.

 

[doublejj]

Totally different case

pointing guns at pedestrians like these 2 yahoos did is a deadly threat. Anyone on this street would be in fear for their life. Using deadly force to defend would be justified in shooting them. Not much different.

 

[BodegaBud]

My post wasn't emotional. It was bare fact.

You’re emotional right now. They’ve already dropped the minor with the firearm so that is a moot point. It comes down to whether he was reasonable to fear for his life and use deadly force in that situation. I’ll be damn surprised if they convict him. We will have to wait and see

 

[mooray]

I’m not agreeing with everything that he did but I do believe it was self defense. I just think it’s funny how upset people are over this and taking sides most without knowing all the details.

That’s not how the law works. The prosecutors had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn’t self defense. Everything else about how I feel, you feel, or the media, the judge, the public feels is irrelevant. It’s not a popularity contest. And though I don’t think he should of been there I will say the same about the rest of the people there that night. This was a political shit show from the gate

Can you tell me how the law works in regard to provocation and self-defense in a reckless homicide charge?

 

[Fogdog]

Can you prove that without a reasonable doubt he didn’t fear that his life was in danger after being chased towards the cars? Remember this isn’t about anything but that. People tend to back the side they agree with more even before knowing the facts.

There is a trial going on for that. Your post is just another of a string of browbeating people because you can't convince them that what they say was not murder. People can form opinions without applying legal standards. For example, Rittenhouse acted guilty as all hell the night he shot three people. Didn't offer aid, didn't turn himself in to the police, he just ran like he was a guilty of murder. He sure seems guilty to me, be that's my opinion. It is based upon facts but nobody is going to have their liberty deprived because of my opinion.

Did he in fact commit murder and will he get punished for it? That's what the trial is for.

 

[Kerowacked]

Actually that would be brandishing a weapon but in the case of self defense it doesn’t apply

“Assault is the threat of bodily harm”

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[BodegaBud]

pointing guns at pedestrians like these 2 yahoos did is a deadly threat. Using deadly force to defend would be justified in shooting them. Not much different.

I don’t know all the facts in that case but correct me if I’m wrong. The people that surrounded their home broke down a gate to a private community? Also did any of them get on their property? To be honest with something like this I would have to know more facts to develop an opinion. Were the people just walking by or were they aggressive and antagonizing people? All that comes into play.

 

[schuylaar]

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i think we need a check for bamboo fibers on those jurors chosen..

Kyle Rittenhouse conducts random draw, seating 7 women and 5 men for his jury

The nearly all-white panel will decide whether the Illinois teen should be held criminally responsible for killing two men and seriously wounding a third in Kenosha last year.

www.nbcnews.com

oh! and..sure seems like he's done this once or twice before..isn't he a Medic?



this^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^is not self defense.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

Isn't he walking right now? Did his legs fall off since last we saw him? Asking for a friend

hope he can walk, he ain't got a license

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

That’s not how the law works. The prosecutors had to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn’t self defense. Everything else about how I feel, you feel, or the media, the judge, the public feels is irrelevant. It’s not a popularity contest. And though I don’t think he should of been there I will say the same about the rest of the people there that night. This was a political shit show from the gate

oh...now you know how the law works...when it works to let a murderer off because he has an ancient racist asshole for a judge...

 

[BodegaBud]

There is a trial going on for that. Your post is just another of a string of browbeating people because you can't convince them that what they say was not murder. People can form opinions without applying legal standards. For example, Rittenhouse acted guilty as all hell the night he shot three people. Didn't offer aid, didn't turn himself in to the police, he just ran like he was a guilty of murder. He sure seems guilty to me, be that's my opinion. It is based upon facts but nobody is going to have their liberty deprived because of my opinion.

Did he in fact commit murder and will he get punished for it? That's what the trial is for.

Once again that’s your opinion just like mine is mine.

 

[hanimmal]

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You mean 'OJ innocent'?

 

[BodegaBud]

oh...now you know how the law works...when it works to let a murderer off because he has an ancient racist asshole for a judge...

He’s racist how? Because he didn’t go along with the prosecution? Because he has a patriotic song on his phone? What did he do that is racist? Make a comment about food being stuck on cargo ships?

 

[BodegaBud]

You mean 'OJ innocent'?

That was a long time ago I forgot all the facts. One thing I know is I was waiting in line and to show you just how uninformed people are a woman was talking about it saying “ Everybody knows that he shot her.” But the facts were a knife was used

 

[doublejj]

I don’t know all the facts in that case but correct me if I’m wrong. The people that surrounded their home broke down a gate to a private community? Also did any of them get on their property? To be honest with something like this I would have to know more facts to develop an opinion. Were the people just walking by or were they aggressive and antagonizing people? All that comes into play.

no the pedestrians were just walking by their home. They were walking on a public sidewalk. These 2 were lucky nobody was armed in the crowd, self defense would be justified.

 

[Kerowacked]

oh...now you know how the law works...when it works to let a murderer off because he has an ancient racist asshole for a judge...

Shrubbster, the judge has been steering the prosecution away from mistrials and appeals. He’s a sharp old duck and probably pissed the DA passed the case off to these two as a slam dunk.

 

[Herb & Suds]

He’s racist how? Because he didn’t go along with the prosecution? Because he has a patriotic song on his phone? What did he do that is racist? Make a comment about food being stuck on cargo ships?

He sounds like Archie Bunker nuff said

 

[hanimmal]

Kenosha's Killer Kyle pointing a gun that got a response that ended up with him killing 2 people and disabling a third.

This really is open and shut case, it is just down to if there is a juror that lets him off or not.

 

[BodegaBud]

Kenosha's Killer Kyle pointing a gun that got a response that ended up with him killing 2 people and disabling a third.

This really is open and shut case, it is just down to if there is a juror that lets him off or not.

I couldn’t vote guilty on a grainy image even if that was the defining factor. Even say he did point his rifle what was the reason? I’m not saying he did or didn’t but I don’t see this as proof that Kyle The Commie Killer (or whatever you called him )is guilty of anything

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

He’s racist how? Because he didn’t go along with the prosecution? Because he has a patriotic song on his phone? What did he do that is racist? Make a comment about food being stuck on cargo ships?

yes....