Please stop using peat products

hotrodharley

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Did someone say “Sarah Palin”
Her family total dirtbags. Cops at their place all the time. The son who's a veteran pistol whipped his dad. Went to jail again. Veterans drug court again. The Anchorage police were called to a rumble in the rich part of town. Palin's had showed up in a limo at a big birthday bash for these millionaire twin brothers who were described as family friends. Cops got there and even Sarah was on someone's back beating him with her fists. A pack of real weiners. I mean winners.
 

Herb & Suds

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Her family total dirtbags. Cops at their place all the time. The son who's a veteran pistol whipped his dad. Went to jail again. Veterans drug court again. The Anchorage police were called to a rumble in the rich part of town. Palin's had showed up in a limo at a big birthday bash for these millionaire twin brothers who were described as family friends. Cops got there and even Sarah was on someone's back beating him with her fists. A pack of real weiners. I mean winners.
And yet a prelude to the latest crop of aholes
 

hotrodharley

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Sorry but l reuse and recycle. Wont give up my Promix hp m. Until l can buy a bale of coco perlite myco mix for the same price. Using promix and tapwater saves me money, no extra cost of mycorhyzae or calmag. I reuse my mix more than once too.
Sunshine 4 is good stuff. It's just a little light on the perlite. Canadian peat with the beneficials added. I've switched. PM here is $65. S4 $38. Same volume.
 

Horselover fat

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I haven't tried it yet, but biochar could be a good replacement for coco. I might try it next time incase I don't go back to DWC.
 

go go kid

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I gave it up at the start of Covid. I was using Jack's Magic, which is peat based, I couldn't get it. Now I am using composted wood and green waste with added farm manure and perlite. The UK government has since announced the imminent banning of commercial peat sales in 2023, so I am glad I got ahead of the game.

Also as well as peat bogs being a finite resource and a massive carbon soak, the digging of peat releases trapped Co2 into the atmosphere. People should use coco either as it has a massive carbon footprint. Bat Guano and Seabird Guano are bad too, not only do they have a big carbon footprint from air miles, they are decimating ancient bird and bat colonies to get it.

I have taken a big look at the environmental impact of my grow. I have invested in better lights to lower my electricity consumption, I have swapped to a electricity supplier that only offers tariffs that use renewable generation. I have also stopped growing indoors during the summer months and grow Autos in poly tunnels from April to September. I grow in a loft and I waste so much energy controlling heat and humidity in the summer it would be better to use the light and that nature provides. I did two runs of outdoor Autos this summer and the results were superb. I also veg a few photos in my conservatory so I can get going right away in september.

I am only using a locally sourced medium that is made from my garden waste. (I have enrolled in the local council's garden waste scheme, they take my garden waste and it is taken to a local processing plant and composted and I can then buy the compost at cost, a total of about 15 miles round trip, not hundreds or even thousands.) I can buy rotted manure from the local Livery Stables.

My next thing is to stop using bottled nutrients, due to the plastics used in the packaging and the potential air miles. I am looking into dry amendments, I am going to conduct experiments using Fish, Blood and Bone and work from there. I have just taken some clones of RQS Hulkberry to experiment on.
i too was useing jacks for some of my plants, was unaware of it being 80% peat, now back to useing my own compost and old potatoe soil, dry amendments too, ewc, worm liguid from worm farm, seaweed solution, fish blood n bone, chicken pelleted manure untill my own has cooled down from own chickens, and some pearlite or vamiculite
 

go go kid

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I've heard that rice hulls are bad due to the water used for paddy's, but the way i look at it is, the hulls are a byproduct of the actual consumable rice. Idk though, I could be wrong with my assumption. But I've stopped using perlite
nice one, been thinking about it myself
 

speedwell68

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i too was useing jacks for some of my plants, was unaware of it being 80% peat, now back to useing my own compost and old potatoe soil, dry amendments too, ewc, worm liguid from worm farm, seaweed solution, fish blood n bone, chicken pelleted manure untill my own has cooled down from own chickens, and some pearlite or vamiculite
Jack's Magic was some good soil, really nice. I think they have stopped making it now, the replacement seems to be New Horizon and they do various versions of it.
 

go go kid

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All sales, AFAIK. It will no longer be available to buy. A lot of UK outlets are already phasing it out. I went to my local Wickes and they have already got peat free only. I notice that Westland are now selling Jack's Magic at 150L for £10, when it's gone it's gone. At that price I was tempted to stock up, it makes no sense to let the already dug stuff go to waste.

Coco is as bad as peat, as it is all imported.
yeah thats the main problem, the carbon footprint left by the air miles its travelled, i looked into ethicly gathered peat moss, filtered out from the waters, but its expencive
 

go go kid

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Jack's Magic was some good soil, really nice. I think they have stopped making it now, the replacement seems to be New Horizon and they do various versions of it.
if you can get it, merlins magic or any soil made by your local tip works well and is certified organic. merlins magic is my local suplier
 
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