Diagnose my misfits plz. I'm a bit confused.

[stawawager]

What’s the temperature and humidity?

76° / 54%. It's cooled off recently here otherwise I was running 83°. I can up the humidity if I should.

 

[PadawanWarrior]

Update. These pics are very close color matches.

Haven't been adding nutes. Using test strips for pH. Adding 1.5 ml hcl / gal. of well water hitting between 6.4 & 6.8 pH. Undergrowth yellowing looks normal & natural upper half leaves are skinny, light green / yellowy and droopy. Very few brown spots. Lights >12" above. On a 3 day drying cycle but still registering some moisture in lower third of pot. Nothing really looks different after the 3 days.

Only thing I can think of is adding magnesium and calcium?
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I'd cut out the HCl and see how they respond.

 

[stawawager]

I'd cut out the HCl and see how they respond.

I start with 7.6 ph, add 1.5 ml hcl to get 6.4 ph. You think kick it up to 7.6 because the soil will buffer uptake?

 

[LeastExpectedGrower]

They're still droopy, which seems like an ongoing watering issue. The FFOF is was probably out of juice, so feeding was probably the right move, but looks like a bit of nutrient burn on the leaves down low? Maybe just back off the nutrient strength a little bit?

 

[stawawager]

Update: Entered flowering 1 week ago. I should have bent them over 4 weeks ago. Too late?

Notice the plastic cups - both are skinny but shot way up to the canopy. I kept them for an experiment.

In the 4 big bean plants - I can find no signs of male genes. PRETTY LUCKY so far!

 

[OneMoreRip]

ph and ec of medium must be good for good plants, with calibrated meters.

also seems like over watered drastically, unless you know for sure underwatered, id let the medium dry a till pot lightens quite a bit because roots not alive in lower part of pot to ever use the water

 

[Dape Green]

Sure see a lot of ugly plants grown in ffoh. When I have friends with grows looking like that I do my best to convince them to go to coco. No one has gone back.

 

[stawawager]

Sure see a lot of ugly plants grown in ffoh. When I have friends with grows looking like that I do my best to convince them to go to coco. No one has gone back.

Will do! They're not bushy but budding out pretty good. Going to rejuvenate some nutes and add some new ones, see below...

 

[Dape Green]

You should consider cleaning up the bottom third of that plant. You won’t get good bud at the bottom and those dying leaves will waste plant energy and attract bugs. Best of luck brother.

 

[hotrodharley]

You should consider cleaning up the bottom third of that plant. You won’t get good bud at the bottom and those dying leaves will waste plant energy and attract bugs. Best of luck brother.

Agree

 

[stawawager]

ph and ec of medium must be good for good plants, with calibrated meters.

also seems like over watered drastically, unless you know for sure underwatered, id let the medium dry a till pot lightens quite a bit because roots not alive in lower part of pot to ever use the water

I've never measured ec - I'll read up on it.

Was over watering over 1 month ago, now letting the pot dry out from top to bottom. Having more yellowing leafs than I feel is normal. Going to modify nutes next watering - see below.

 

[hotrodharley]

I've never measured ec - I'll read up on it.

Was over watering over 1 month ago, now letting the pot dry out from top to bottom. Having more yellowing leafs than I feel is normal. Going to modify nutes next watering - see below.

Do not bother. Do not listen to that fool. He's a parrot and only knows a few things to say.

Do not let medium dry out. Not even mostly.

 

[stawawager]

You should consider cleaning up the bottom third of that plant. You won’t get good bud at the bottom and those dying leaves will waste plant energy and attract bugs. Best of luck brother.

Done. THX n much appreciated! Got a couple update pictures coming, going to see what a nute change does.

 

[stawawager]

Do not bother. Do not listen to that fool. He's a parrot and only knows a few things to say.

Do not let medium dry out. Not even mostly.

Because it will shock them?

 

[hotrodharley]

Because it will shock them?

Checking runoff EC is unnecessary. Maybe if you're in coco and overfeeding. Otherwise unnecessary and runoff pH is not even worth checking.

 

[hotrodharley]

76° / 54%. It's cooled off recently here otherwise I was running 83°. I can up the humidity if I should.

Up the temperature. With LED surface leaf temps at the canopy should be 80 at least.

 

[Dape Green]

Up the temperature. With LED surface leaf temps at the canopy should be 80 at least.

I agree with this 100%, good advice. I run 83f and 70%rh in veg and first two weeks of flower. After that start dropping it weekly.

 

[stawawager]

Up the temperature. With LED surface leaf temps at the canopy should be 80 at least.

How about as high as 90f?

 

[stawawager]

I agree with this 100%, good advice. I run 83f and 70%rh in veg and first two weeks of flower. After that start dropping it weekly.

That's where I was at vegging. Then I dropped it like that also, now averaging in-between 65 & 70, dark & light respectively.

Sometimes it's dumb luck LOL.

 

[Dape Green]

80° in flower??? With low humidity (<50%) right?

Here’s a great guide. If no CO2 go with the lower range. This schedule was a game changer for me as I made the switch from HID to LED.