Regular female mother plant, two clones from her: reverse one and pollinate the other, what to expect?

JHake

Well-Known Member
Hello RIU.

I am having my first experiences playing with breeding projects.

One of the thing i want to try is what i explained in the title.
Using a regular female plant (not feminized), getting clones from her, reversing one of those clones and breed it with the sister.

What could i expect from the offspring of that cross?
I mean, would most of the plants be similar to the mother? Or do i have the same possibilities of variation as if i would make a F2 cross between the mother and one of her brothers?
 

mudballs

Well-Known Member
Hello RIU.

I am having my first experiences playing with breeding projects.

One of the thing i want to try is what i explained in the title.
Using a regular female plant (not feminized), getting clones from her, reversing one of those clones and breed it with the sister.

What could i expect from the offspring of that cross?
I mean, would most of the plants be similar to the mother? Or do i have the same possibilities of variation as if i would make a F2 cross between the mother and one of her brothers?
I think it would just be 1 out of every 8 would be damn near genetically identical to mom. there would be little to no heterozygous variety available in the gene pool.
maybe 1 out of every 4 even, idk i didn't prepare for this pop quiz :(
 

xtsho

Well-Known Member
I do it all the time. The last reversal using 2 clones the plants all seemed pretty much identical. That was a Night Nurse. I've done it using landraces and ended up with significant variation in some plants. A stable strain should produce pretty much the same plant from all seeds. It's how it's done by breeders selling feminized seeds.
 

BlandMeow

Well-Known Member
Hello RIU.

I am having my first experiences playing with breeding projects.

One of the thing i want to try is what i explained in the title.
Using a regular female plant (not feminized), getting clones from her, reversing one of those clones and breed it with the sister.

What could i expect from the offspring of that cross?
I mean, would most of the plants be similar to the mother? Or do i have the same possibilities of variation as if i would make a F2 cross between the mother and one of her brothers?
How is the project going?
 

JHake

Well-Known Member
The regular females plants i took clones from, are on day 77 of flower. Those clones right now are growing in 3L pots. My idea is to use those clones as mothers. I want to try the idea of this thread, and i also have stored pollen from a brother of the original plant.
I also want to see how both of the original plants end their flowering.

Breeding projects in the backburner but not totally in stand-by!
 

TheWholeTruth

Well-Known Member
That would have really depended what the strain was to begin with. A ibl with one plant reversed to the other should be pretty stable. But if you use a f1 plant A and reverse that to f1 plant B from the same strain it will come out like a f2.
 

xtsho

Well-Known Member
The regular females plants i took clones from, are on day 77 of flower. Those clones right now are growing in 3L pots. My idea is to use those clones as mothers. I want to try the idea of this thread, and i also have stored pollen from a brother of the original plant.
I also want to see how both of the original plants end their flowering.

Breeding projects in the backburner but not totally in stand-by!
How did you store the pollen?
 

Livingblacksoil

Well-Known Member
The regular females plants i took clones from, are on day 77 of flower. Those clones right now are growing in 3L pots. My idea is to use those clones as mothers. I want to try the idea of this thread, and i also have stored pollen from a brother of the original plant.
I also want to see how both of the original plants end their flowering.

Breeding projects in the backburner but not totally in stand-by!
Link ?
 
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