Stretched seedling needs support?

[zzyx]

While I do support the use of technology, as in metering, , ph/ppm’s, etc., I think it equally important to learn to read your plants. They will tell you when something is off. OP’s plant is telling him it needs more light. I don’t need a meter to deduce that.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

While I do support the use of technology, as in metering, , ph/ppm’s, etc., I think it equally important to learn to read your plants. They will tell you when something is off. OP’s plant is telling him it needs more light. I don’t need a meter to deduce that.

What were you saying about reading plants? Lmao. You having a cage match between an overfed plant and a yellow deficient one?

 

[LeastExpectedGrower]

'Reading plants' is fine, but it ends up being reactive...you're always one step behind. Might as well try to start with best practices so that there's less chance of your plants telling you that you've screwed them up then spending a week or two trying to correct. If people truly did this, they'd wait for plants to droop before watering, or wait for deficiencies to show up before using nutrients, etc.

There've been plenty of people who have done this before us...might as well use the knowledge they've brought to the table so our growing experience is that much better rather than having to re-learn stuff that others already have figured out.

 

[zzyx]

What were you saying about reading plants? Lmao. You having a cage match between an overfed plant and a yellow deficient one?
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Good observation. Those two plants are 3 weeks difference in their 12/12 schedule, so that’s a pretty good read. This run is for selection more than purtiness. I have definitely pushed them to their limits.
One of the few disadvantages of running interconnected hydro systems.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Good observation. Those two plants are 3 weeks difference in their 12/12 schedule, so that’s a pretty good read. This run is for selection more than purtiness. I have definitely pushed them to their limits.
One of the few disadvantages of running interconnected hydro systems.

I'm not the one that's supposed to be reading their plants. I mean they are your's. Might want to trash them all then if they look like that.

 

[zzyx]

I'm not the one that's supposed to be reading their plants. I mean they are your's. Might want to trash them all then if they look like that.

He without sin, cast the first stone!
you got pics of your grow somewhere for an example of perfection?

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

He without sin, cast the first stone!

No I'm pointing out the fact that you're giving advice saying certain things don't matter when they do, and your plants look like that.

Maybe focus on getting your plants right before telling others how to do so.

 

[zzyx]

I’ll wait.

 

[simpleleaf]

The reason I grow in a vertical doughnut. Even distribution of light is very beneficial.

Vertical doughnut?


Photo by Kobby Mendez on Unsplash.

 

[thefullspectrum]

I find even the Photone App is super valuable to me. Getting a good read on exactly how bright things *really are* rather than the whole x-inches from canopy thing is a really big help in giving your plants what they want. The other thought is if you're doing it in a tent...take your readings with the tent as zipped up as possible... the reflective difference was definitely more than I thought it would be.

I also put my phone/meter down at pot-level and watch the numbers as I dial in the dimmer or raise/lower the LED boards. While I measure at canopy top, if I know that I can adjust up or down by 50 or 100umol and get it pretty spot on for what I want at the canopy.

Migro did a video where he tested photone and a few other [android] apps against his apogee quantum meter. Photone run on a modern iphone with the simple paper filter was within 5% of his apogee meter over all of his testing. Impressive. The others were rubbish

 

[LeastExpectedGrower]

Migro did a video where he tested photone and a few other [android] apps against his apogee quantum meter. Photone run on a modern iphone with the simple paper filter was within 5% of his apogee meter over all of his testing. Impressive. The others were rubbish

Yep. Those kind of results were what made it worth it to me...but again, I have the iPhone (XS), and the profile was about 6$...pretty good to be within 5%. I also find the DLI calculator on the Photone website to be valuable. Drop in your week of cultivation, your light-time and your PPFD and it tells you if you're on, or if you need to adjust, how to do it (PPFD up or down and/or amount of light time).

 

[speedwell68]

I use them in my vegetable gardens to secure the permeable black plastic weed-guard I put down, and have piles of them.

I also use them as tie-down anchors when I'm doing LST and the plants aren't quite big enough to tie to the edges of the 5g cloth pots. This is a shot of one from this past summer, but you can see that most of the ties are hooked onto the staples rather than to the bag.

I pin the plant directly down with them.

 

[Don't Bogart]

Replant it and bury it a little deeper.

Then either lower light or increase it. If it's fluorescent you can get within 4 inches. BUT you will need to pull back and increase.
Your squeezing this. Sorry you can't cheap out. You gotta weigh cost vs. buying from the Bro. You spend more for the first oz. and maybe the second and the third. Then the payout.

 

[Don't Bogart]

What were you saying about reading plants? Lmao. You having a cage match between an overfed plant and a yellow deficient one?
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No shadow on the right. You using other lights?