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twentyeight.threefive said:
Can I borrow yours?
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It's a poor mechanic who thinks his hammer can cure everything. People buy pH pens repeatedly. Yet they won't spend less than $150 for a meter that tells you immediately whether to increase power, decrease it or leave it where it is. Apps on smartphones? Lol. I'll measure mine against theirs anytime.
 
hotrodharley said:
It's a poor mechanic who thinks his hammer can cure everything. People buy pH pens repeatedly. Yet they won't spend less than $150 for a meter that tells you immediately whether to increase power, decrease it or leave it where it is. Apps on smartphones? Lol. I'll measure mine against theirs anytime.
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I only have one pH pen. It's a poor mechanic who doesn't take care of his tools also.

I don't use an app on my smartphone, I just guess.
 
hotrodharley said:
Yet they won't spend less than $150 for a meter that tells you immediately whether to increase power, decrease it or leave it where it is.
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Kind of a waste of cash for something you only need to use once. Unless you are frequently trying out new lights
 
twentyeight.threefive said:
I only have one pH pen. It's a poor mechanic who doesn't take care of his tools also.

I don't use an app on my smartphone, I just guess.
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hotrodharley said:
We see the results of guessing. Regularly.
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Boatguy said:
Kind of a waste of cash for something you only need to use once. Unless you are frequently trying out new lights
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So MIGRO posted a video on YouTube that I’ll post the link for …I’ll screenshot the part where it compares the apogee meter to this Photone smartphone app, the results they post are almost identical… the app is free and the full spectrum LED option is $5.99

 

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Speaking from personal experience and a few grows under my belt I'm definitely glad I have it. Like a bulletproof vest eh? Or an AR.
 
"The three Android Apps were inaccurate but the Photone App on IOS was very close right through the range of PAR intensity. As per the instructions the Photone App was used with a piece of 80gms paper over the front camera as a diffuser and the light source selection was set to ‘LED full spectrum’."

www.migrolight.com

PAR meter APPs tested

What is the best par meter app for grow lighting? For iPhone owners the PPFD App is the most accurate PAR meter with the most features including making your own PAR map. The PPFD app also has the most free features. Android users should use the Photone app or pair the PPFD app with the Uni-T lux...
www.migrolight.com www.migrolight.com
 
hotrodharley said:
"The three Android Apps were inaccurate but the Photone App on IOS was very close right through the range of PAR intensity. As per the instructions the Photone App was used with a piece of 80gms paper over the front camera as a diffuser and the light source selection was set to ‘LED full spectrum’."

www.migrolight.com

PAR meter APPs tested

What is the best par meter app for grow lighting? For iPhone owners the PPFD App is the most accurate PAR meter with the most features including making your own PAR map. The PPFD app also has the most free features. Android users should use the Photone app or pair the PPFD app with the Uni-T lux...
www.migrolight.com www.migrolight.com
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Yes that’s exactly what I did to determine this reading
 

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hotrodharley said:
Or if your plants are growing. Or if you want maximum production or a variety of other reasons. Don't buy one. I don't give a flying fuck.
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No need to get your undies in a twist.
Just sayin, if you know what the power of the light is at a set distance, you no longer need a meter. I considered at one point buying just the sensor and hooking it up to my multimeter.
 
Bullshit to phone apps for most of you but definitely do it your way. Lol. And my $150 meter measured 755 compared to a calibrated Apogee reading 750. Immediate reading. No math conversion or filter paper. But I'm done arguing about it.
 
I run 30 watts/sqft and it’s full coverage. I run the light from 16” down to a minimum of 8” on top of colas - there is some bleaching but generally the canopy is down around 12-14”.
If you know your wattage you could figure it out. Or just go ahead and lower it progressively until you see the plant being stressed.
 
SteakBags said:
Multiple people including HLG tell you to run calmag when under LED, the plants seem to not uptake it as much because they’re leaves aren’t getting as warm under the LED compared to a HPS

What’s your medium? I don’t plan on using nutes unless I need them in flower which I’ll brew terp teas for

I’m growing in a sealed room, I control the humidity and it stays between 60-70%
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I run soil. HLG is incorrect about calmag in soil and so is anyone that says otherwise. Unless using RO, as previously described.

Your plants will need food bro, they will eat everything in the soil before you get into flower. Tea is to feed microbes to facilitate food to the roots; but if no food in the soil, this wont have desired results.

Little late for top dressing, adding dry ingredients to soil takes time to breakdown and be available to plant.

Consider dry salts. You can add them to the soil if you want to go that route, or mix with water and feed if you need to inject some food. (I use Maxigro/Maxibloom)

Lack of food is only weakness in the grow I see here, everything else looks good, nice job. Best of luck to you
 
visajoe1 said:
I run soil. HLG is incorrect about calmag in soil and so is anyone that says otherwise. Unless using RO, as previously described.

Your plants will need food bro, they will eat everything in the soil before you get into flower. Tea is to feed microbes to facilitate food to the roots; but if no food in the soil, this wont have desired results.

Little late for top dressing, adding dry ingredients to soil takes time to breakdown and be available to plant.

Consider dry salts. You can add them to the soil if you want to go that route, or mix with water and feed if you need to inject some food. (I use Maxigro/Maxibloom)

Lack of food is only weakness in the grow I see here, everything else looks good, nice job. Best of luck to you
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The leaves are so dark green they’re not far from nitrogen burn, what kind of food could they need based off how the leaves look? And roots organics terp teas have npk ratings
 
hotrodharley said:
This total aversion to quantum PAR meters here is quite ridiculous.
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There just really expensive man I want one though. My Lux meter gives me one Metric but that’s it.
Rip those poor fucks who use there phones. I wouldn’t be able to trust it. I barley trust my shit meter.
 
SteakBags said:
The leaves are so dark green they’re not far from nitrogen burn, what kind of food could they need based off how the leaves look? And roots organics terp teas have npk ratings
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Pretty sure NPK ratings is required for fertilizer products?

Gave my advice. Best of luck bro!
 
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