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Alcoholock

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Do you buy hot rod parts from NAPA or from Summit Racing if you're serious about winning?
Neither, you order China turbos that last 2-3 seasons and put them on your stock block...grab injectors, China fmic, fuel pump, charge piping, bov and wastegate and enjoy 600whp+ on your stock block...Run and WIN till it windows the block via the connecting rod.... obviously :)... and I dont want to be that guy but you can order from Summit racing directly from Napa and have it delivered to them.....

But I mean, seriously....how many examples do you need of of ilgm genetics producing quality bud? lol... Its their prices that are meh, not the genes. Anyone coming on here saying it was a runt... or seeds didnt pop... is doing it wrong...Or is shilling for another seed company. Again there are better genetics... But don't think cuz you went to meph your bruce banner is going to be WAYY better than ilgm, Because... They're almost exactly the same...Not the exact pheno, but... I mean you know he "stole" the hulk genetics to cross with the cough...right? lol

example of ilgm bruce banner with someone worth a fuck:
 

hotrodharley

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Neither, you order China turbos that last 2-3 seasons and put them on your stock block...grab injectors, China fmic, fuel pump, charge piping, bov and wastegate and enjoy 600whp+ on your stock block...Run and WIN till it windows the block via the connecting rod.... obviously :)... and I dont want to be that guy but you can order from Summit racing directly from Napa and have it delivered to them.....

But I mean, seriously....how many examples do you need of of ilgm genetics producing quality bud? lol... Its their prices that are meh, not the genes. Anyone coming on here saying it was a runt... or seeds didnt pop... is doing it wrong...Or is shilling for another seed company. Again there are better genetics... But don't think cuz you went to meph your bruce banner is going to be WAYY better than ilgm, Because... They're almost exactly the same...Not the exact pheno, but... I mean you know he "stole" the hulk genetics to cross with the cough...right? lol

example of ilgm bruce banner with someone worth a fuck:
I know quite a few guitarists that can pick up a Wal Mart guitar and make it sound great. Most guys can't however. They need all the help they can get. But I know what you're saying. My question with these places is not only age of the seeds but how they were stored from plant to you.
 

Alcoholock

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I know quite a few guitarists that can pick up a Wal Mart guitar and make it sound great. Most guys can't however. They need all the help they can get. But I know what you're saying. My question with these places is not only age of the seeds but how they were stored from plant to you.
Yeah i can dig it, . im just saying at 100 for 20 BB autos...and knowing its as legit as you can get it outside of meph and dark... etc.... Truly is a pretty good deal, I think off deal I paid 100 for 10 GG#4s...which was... not great....But I dig it.. I agree there is 100% better genetics out there... But the way ppl pummel ilgm on here... with bs like "I got 20 seeds and only 2 germed" how does that happen to these fools but i can plant 12 in a row of two diff strains and have zero issues, 100% germ rate, I just feel like its.. attention.. and skill...and trust me I'm no BOG. So Idk. But yeah, I get what you're saying... I remember switching from my Les paul special II shitter guitar to my Fender strat than ibanez....the finer things in life are ....finer :)
 

VAhomegrown

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Yeah i can dig it, . im just saying at 100 for 20 BB autos...and knowing its as legit as you can get it outside of meph and dark... etc.... Truly is a pretty good deal, I think off deal I paid 100 for 10 GG#4s...which was... not great....But I dig it.. I agree there is 100% better genetics out there... But the way ppl pummel ilgm on here... with bs like "I got 20 seeds and only 2 germed" how does that happen to these fools but i can plant 12 in a row of two diff strains and have zero issues, 100% germ rate, I just feel like its.. attention.. and skill...and trust me I'm no BOG. So Idk. But yeah, I get what you're saying... I remember switching from my Les paul special II shitter guitar to my Fender strat than ibanez....the finer things in life are ....finer :)
I'd totally recommend ILGM to someone who wants a lot of seeds on the cheap. Agreed that a lot of complaints about germing are probably user error. My buddy got some BG Grimm Glue and C99 a couple months ago. A bunch of them popped but didn't grow when he transplanted them from the paper towel to the pot, and a couple didn't pop at all. He went off about how BG sucks etc. Didn't help he was transplanting them into water only soil that was too hot for them.

I'm also not a fan of the paper towel method either. I much prefer planting direct in Root Riot cubes in a prop tray on a heat mat because you don't have to handle them after they sprout. Just wait for the roots to grow out of the plug and transplant. Had 100% germ rates when I switched to Root Riot cubes. Point being, he didn't bother to look at how he was doing things and eliminate his methods as the possible problem first.

What guitars do you have? I love Ibanez lol. I've got an Iron Label strat that has a super fast silky neck. Used to have a 540pii "Skolnick" years ago that I regret selling.
 

Alcoholock

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I have a Fender Bullet(squire) right now, which is a shorterish neck which is not that silky loll, with floyd rose humbucker pickups which sound great........and the ibanez....the finer thing...if you will is an RG550 in purple with IBZ V7 neck S1 mid and V8 bridge pickups ....and just a peavy amp/head and my circa 90s DOD distortion pedal :)...I must admit I wish I played as much as I did when I was a teenager...And yeah the Ibanez neck is super silky compared to the fender...But I enjoy the Mexican made bullet as well....Is the iron label 7 or 6 string? And wow a 540pii? quite rare arent they? I've seen one, where i took guitar lessons, guy wanted several thousand for it... was yellow...Would'nt even let me take it out for a spin lol...Man I wouldve regretted selling that as well!
 

Alcoholock

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I'd totally recommend ILGM to someone who wants a lot of seeds on the cheap. Agreed that a lot of complaints about germing are probably user error. My buddy got some BG Grimm Glue and C99 a couple months ago. A bunch of them popped but didn't grow when he transplanted them from the paper towel to the pot, and a couple didn't pop at all. He went off about how BG sucks etc. Didn't help he was transplanting them into water only soil that was too hot for them.

I'm also not a fan of the paper towel method either. I much prefer planting direct in Root Riot cubes in a prop tray on a heat mat because you don't have to handle them after they sprout. Just wait for the roots to grow out of the plug and transplant. Had 100% germ rates when I switched to Root Riot cubes. Point being, he didn't bother to look at how he was doing things and eliminate his methods as the possible problem first.

What guitars do you have? I love Ibanez lol. I've got an Iron Label strat that has a super fast silky neck. Used to have a 540pii "Skolnick" years ago that I regret selling.
Also I use the paper towel method, between two paper plates... and I have Neptunes Seaweed (kelp) that has directions for mixing for germ that I've never germed without. Not sure if its making a huge diff.
 

VAhomegrown

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I have a Fender Bullet(squire) right now, which is a shorterish neck which is not that silky loll, with floyd rose humbucker pickups which sound great........and the ibanez....the finer thing...if you will is an RG550 in purple with IBZ V7 neck S1 mid and V8 bridge pickups ....and just a peavy amp/head and my circa 90s DOD distortion pedal :)...I must admit I wish I played as much as I did when I was a teenager...And yeah the Ibanez neck is super silky compared to the fender...But I enjoy the Mexican made bullet as well....Is the iron label 7 or 6 string? And wow a 540pii? quite rare arent they? I've seen one, where i took guitar lessons, guy wanted several thousand for it... was yellow...Would'nt even let me take it out for a spin lol...Man I wouldve regretted selling that as well!
Purple RG550 yes please lol :bigjoint: They are awesome guitars.

My Iron Label is a 6 string. Used to have a cheapie RG 7321 7 string, but sold it and downtuned one of my 6 strings. I dont play nearly as much as I used to either. When this covid lockdown shit started I tried to get back into it but my muscle memory isn't what it used to be. Now I think about selling a couple guitars to buy more grow gear. Been eyefucking a setup from The Bucket Company for a few weeks now lol

Also I use the paper towel method, between two paper plates... and I have Neptunes Seaweed (kelp) that has directions for mixing for germ that I've never germed without. Not sure if its making a huge diff.
I've heard a few things can help. Putting fresh tomato seeds in a small glass of water for 48h, removing them, then adding the cannabis seeds. Something about an enzyme that could be gone from older seeds, so you use tomato seeds to put that enzyme in the water. I wish I could find that post again.
 

Alcoholock

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Purple RG550 yes please lol :bigjoint: They are awesome guitars.

My Iron Label is a 6 string. Used to have a cheapie RG 7321 7 string, but sold it and downtuned one of my 6 strings. I dont play nearly as much as I used to either. When this covid lockdown shit started I tried to get back into it but my muscle memory isn't what it used to be. Now I think about selling a couple guitars to buy more grow gear. Been eyefucking a setup from The Bucket Company for a few weeks now lol



I've heard a few things can help. Putting fresh tomato seeds in a small glass of water for 48h, removing them, then adding the cannabis seeds. Something about an enzyme that could be gone from older seeds, so you use tomato seeds to put that enzyme in the water. I wish I could find that post again.
well I got 18 bruce banner auto beans... I'll give it a try...Always looking to improve the first critical 3 weeks.. and yeah I dont think I could ever sell the purple ibanez...I should play it more often since im still relatively young and I've been playing a bunch of high paced high coordination video games since Adolf I mean our govenor has been auto locking the state down for ...you know 17 deaths in 2 years in a county of 35k ppl.. :wall:, SO my hands have felt pretty good lately....But I know i'd have to play it 5 days a week till spring to be where I was.
 

hotrodharley

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I'd totally recommend ILGM to someone who wants a lot of seeds on the cheap. Agreed that a lot of complaints about germing are probably user error. My buddy got some BG Grimm Glue and C99 a couple months ago. A bunch of them popped but didn't grow when he transplanted them from the paper towel to the pot, and a couple didn't pop at all. He went off about how BG sucks etc. Didn't help he was transplanting them into water only soil that was too hot for them.

I'm also not a fan of the paper towel method either. I much prefer planting direct in Root Riot cubes in a prop tray on a heat mat because you don't have to handle them after they sprout. Just wait for the roots to grow out of the plug and transplant. Had 100% germ rates when I switched to Root Riot cubes. Point being, he didn't bother to look at how he was doing things and eliminate his methods as the possible problem first.

What guitars do you have? I love Ibanez lol. I've got an Iron Label strat that has a super fast silky neck. Used to have a 540pii "Skolnick" years ago that I regret selling.
I don't know why people think seeds are different than everything else in this world - you usually get what you pay for.
 

Alcoholock

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I don't know why people think seeds are different than everything else in this world - you usually get what you pay for.
But amirite in saying... what copycat/ilgm etc etc are stocking are certainly very close copies of what you'd pay alot more for in name from dark, meph, etc etc.... I mean what would it take? the pheno from darkhorse, and what....strawberry cough? and it would be what... 99% the same? like you said its mostly quality control and handling of the seeds that is the question after that... and shelf time... But people get this attitude with me like im making some crazy statement by saying that.......like if they get meph genetics....its going to be something so much better than the aforementioned more mainstream seed banks, it would seem alien in comparison.... which is just so far from the truth its nuts, but hey, I think people that work hard snatching other ppls hard work and throwing some of theirs at it should get paid......right? :)...what was bruce banner crossed from again? :) Wait... isnt that... what.... ilgm and copycat are doing? same thing Dark did to make bruce banner? waiiiiiit :)
 

hotrodharley

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But amirite in saying... what copycat/ilgm etc etc are stocking are certainly very close copies of what you'd pay alot more for in name from dark, meph, etc etc.... I mean what would it take? the pheno from darkhorse, and what....strawberry cough? and it would be what... 99% the same? like you said its mostly quality control and handling of the seeds that is the question after that... and shelf time... But people get this attitude with me like im making some crazy statement by saying that.......like if they get meph genetics....its going to be something so much better than the aforementioned more mainstream seed banks, it would seem alien in comparison.... which is just so far from the truth its nuts, but hey, I think people that work hard snatching other ppls hard work and throwing some of theirs at it should get paid......right? :)...what was bruce banner crossed from again? :) Wait... isnt that... what.... ilgm and copycat are doing? same thing Dark did to make bruce banner? waiiiiiit :)
I maintain a true IBL Durban. Verifiable. I've seen seed places selling it and plants grown from some. I've seen stuff that doesn't resemble Durban in any way including smell and taste. That's all I can say about why I feel the way I do. Been growing since the 60's and have produced some killer stuff from brickweed seeds. You never know until you've tried.
 

Alcoholock

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I maintain a true IBL Durban. Verifiable. I've seen seed places selling it and plants grown from some. I've seen stuff that doesn't resemble Durban in any way including smell and taste. That's all I can say about why I feel the way I do. Been growing since the 60's and have produced some killer stuff from brickweed seeds. You never know until you've tried.
oh I listen to the old timers, and I agree with you, but I got turned off from Darkhorse after he made that youtube video naming several seed banks as completely fake.,..and its like... well.....did you make both the strains you used to make yours? No....Did your sell yours? Yes....so then the genetics are out there.....to take, just like you did to make your amazing strain.....Then why are you making this 45min hit piece video? Many of the sites he cited are complete dog shit..But Some... it was just straight slander, because they're pretty open about the fact they use his and other famous phenos to make theirs.. lol... makes no sense to me, No doubt the dude is talented, but this whole rules for thee thing... idk. A bit out of control on this continent imo...Now im not taking anything away from people maintaining unique strains...I think thats amazing. And i understand the premium market for it...But Don't act high and mighty when you did the same thing to create the very strain you're mad others are using... ....lol. Right? So anyways, enough bitching.... how is that durban poison btw? I've never even seen nor smoked it....only stories from my father, when he was in the service in Germany, and im talking from way back in the 70s....that he told me when he was still alive. I Don't think i've ever tried a true killer Sativa, everything Indica now a days..
 

Green Refuge

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I maintain a true IBL Durban. Verifiable. I've seen seed places selling it and plants grown from some. I've seen stuff that doesn't resemble Durban in any way including smell and taste. That's all I can say about why I feel the way I do. Been growing since the 60's and have produced some killer stuff from brickweed seeds. You never know until you've tried.
That true Durban is a gold mine. I got a South African Durban from snowhigh a couple years ago and it's the best plant I've ever grown or smoked. I've bought countless packs of high end shit from top breeders and nothing comes close.
 

Alcoholock

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That true Durban is a gold mine. I got a South African Durban from snowhigh a couple years ago and it's the best plant I've ever grown or smoked. I've bought countless packs of high end shit from top breeders and nothing comes close.
Real uppity high or? Im super interested...I can't even smoke GG during the day, just sucks to motivation from me
 

hotrodharley

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That true Durban is a gold mine. I got a South African Durban from snowhigh a couple years ago and it's the best plant I've ever grown or smoked. I've bought countless packs of high end shit from top breeders and nothing comes close.
Mine is around the USA including multiple growers on RIU. Multiple commercial operations using it. Flavor is incredible. My favorite daytime strain.
 
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