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Roger A. Shrubber

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Unclebaldrick said:
A few hours ago I dropped into a Bob Evans to pick up breakfast for our holiday crew. The place was packed. I was the only one wearing a mask. They have grown complacent. Half believe Covid doesn't exist, half believe it does but vaccinations don't help. They learned this from tv.

Anyway, the unvaccinated are letting their guard down at just the wrong time. Omicron will go through them like a hot knife through butter. When it has its way with them we might actually reach herd immunity for long enough to break the cycle.

Our workplace should be chock full of rapid tests despite their iffy results but we have none. If I took one today and tested positive, it would not surprise me. I was boosted 16 days ago so my immunity is as high as this vaccination can get me. No symptoms that are crossing over any thresholds but I have had a runny nose and mild inability to control my body temp. I have had a couple dozen close conversations with people now covid positive in the last week. I wear a mask - none of them do. It would be pretty cool if I don't have it, but would not surprise me a bit if I do. I will keep an eye on the cats as they are the only unvaccinated members of our home.
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i knew that the majority of people were stupid a long time ago, i just didn't realize how large the majority was, or just how stupid they had become...
the only good aspect to that situation is natural selection...a goodly percentage of the stupidest gene carriers are being removed from the breeding pool.
 
CunningCanuk

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
i knew that the majority of people were stupid a long time ago, i just didn't realize how large the majority was, or just how stupid they had become...
the only good aspect to that situation is natural selection...a goodly percentage of the stupidest gene carriers are being removed from the breeding pool.
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I’m thinking it’s closer to 80% are stupid. One of my 13 year old daughters friends is having a New Year’s Eve party tonight. My daughter was invited with 8 other girls to a sleepover, of all things. Needless to say she isn’t going and one of her other friends isn’t either. She was disappointed but understood we are being responsible and trying to keep her safe. Anyway, 2 out of 9 parents don’t have any worry at all. That’s 78% are stupid in this example. Do 13 year olds really need to celebrate New Years outside of their home?

So, I understand your sentiment but it’s important to remember, not everyone who is unvaccinated is unvaccinated by choice. Those are the people that I think about in this mess.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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CunningCanuk said:
Ah yes. I remember the promise of those days too. This past summer felt somewhat normal.

hopefully by this coming summer.
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We could be in for good summers and shitty winters with covid, boosters will be timed for in the fall and early winter. Maximum boost for the holidays, everybody should have some degree of immunity to it by summer, one way or another. Omicron is making the news, but delta is filling the hospitals at this point, vaccines and boosters are somewhat effective against it. For many a mild case of omicron after vaccination and boosting will further bolster their immunity. It's hard to predict the future with covid, we've been burned before, but pandemics do end naturally and vaccines help to move it along more quickly.
 
Fogdog

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Unclebaldrick said:
A few hours ago I dropped into a Bob Evans to pick up breakfast for our holiday crew. The place was packed. I was the only one wearing a mask. They have grown complacent. Half believe Covid doesn't exist, half believe it does but vaccinations don't help. They learned this from tv.

Anyway, the unvaccinated are letting their guard down at just the wrong time. Omicron will go through them like a hot knife through butter. When it has its way with them we might actually reach herd immunity for long enough to break the cycle.

Our workplace should be chock full of rapid tests despite their iffy results but we have none. If I took one today and tested positive, it would not surprise me. I was boosted 16 days ago so my immunity is as high as this vaccination can get me. No symptoms that are crossing over any thresholds but I have had a runny nose and mild inability to control my body temp. I have had a couple dozen close conversations with people now covid positive in the last week. I wear a mask - none of them do. It would be pretty cool if I don't have it, but would not surprise me a bit if I do. I will keep an eye on the cats as they are the only unvaccinated members of our home.
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We've all been exposed to the live virus by now. You are doing all you can. The symptoms you describe are consistent with what a vaccinated person who becomes infected typically reports.

Article I found interesting from an interview with the chief of infectious disease at Penn Presbyterian Medical Center describes the differences he's seeing between the two populations -- those who are vaccinated and those who aren't.

What are the symptoms of omicron in an unvaccinated person?
In the unvaccinated, omicron looks very similar to delta and all the prior variants and the original strain. It can land you in the hospital if you’re unvaccinated and can lead to ICU care or death. It should not be taken as “it’s just a cold” for everyone, because that’s not the case at all.

In an unvaccinated person, omicron is quite capable of and is actually causing pneumonia. People are coming in [the emergency department] with shortness of breath due to pneumonia, just like it has with prior waves and prior variants.

What should vaccinated people experiencing COVID symptoms know?
Vaccinated people who have cold symptoms, nasal congestion, runny noses, sore throats, but aren’t experiencing fever — if you’re vaccinated and boosted, and those are the symptoms you’re having, you may have COVID-19. It’s so prevalent across our region that it’s spreading efficiently and widely.

I’d encourage them to try to test themselves. At this point, given you’re vaccinated and boosted, this is going to be a mild illness. They should consider this great news, because they did get vaccinated and boosted, and it’s allowed them to have a COVID-19 infection that is mild. And they’ll recover in a week or so, just like with other common cold symptoms.

www.inquirer.com

What are the symptoms of omicron? Here’s how they differ in vaccinated and unvaccinated patients.

Judith O’Donnell, the chief of infectious disease at Penn Presbyterian Medical Center, spoke to The Inquirer about the latest COVID-19 surge and the symptoms of the omicron variant.
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captainmorgan

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New variant in France.


www.thailandmedical.news

BREAKING! Southern France Reports Spread Of New SARS-CoV-2 Variant B.1.640.2 With 46 Mutations And 37 Deletions Originating From Cameroon! - Thailand Medical News

French health authorities have reported the spread of a new SARS-CoV-2 variant B.1.640.2 that possess 46 mutations and 37 deletions including the N501Y and E484K mutations. As of press time, a total of 67 patients all displaying moderate and severe conditions of the disease and requiring...
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CatHedral

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captainmorgan said:
New variant in France.


www.thailandmedical.news

BREAKING! Southern France Reports Spread Of New SARS-CoV-2 Variant B.1.640.2 With 46 Mutations And 37 Deletions Originating From Cameroon! - Thailand Medical News

French health authorities have reported the spread of a new SARS-CoV-2 variant B.1.640.2 that possess 46 mutations and 37 deletions including the N501Y and E484K mutations. As of press time, a total of 67 patients all displaying moderate and severe conditions of the disease and requiring...
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Fuck Boston for just wanting a piece of Pi.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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A quiet new year's eve here in NS, no parties this year! I might have a glass of wine, I've had a 1/2 bottle in the fridge for quite a spell, it still should be good. It's been an eventful year and I've had a few sad moments and lost a few friends including one of my cat's who passed away in November. Hopefully we will see covid largely behind us in 2022 and begin to live more active and social lives again. The unvaxxed will be inoculated by spring the hard way and covid should run out of victims by summer.
 
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