Another gun thread

CatHedral

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Truth concedes to nothing. Whether you concede to my point or not, it remains true.

Not sure what you're asking me to concede to. If it's conceding to that which is impossible is somehow superior to that which is possible? If that's it, no thanks, I will not concede to that.

Barter is the lubrication of a peaceful soicety
But that is precisely what you do.
 

Rob Roy

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and...welcome to the club....you are about the 15th, maybe 20th person to say the exact same thing. maybe this time he'll actually hear what you're saying, and realize that his entire social construct could never exist in reality...but i fucking doubt it. happy new year.
My social construct features a default circumstance where individuals of a sound mind have the right of self determination over themselves and their justly acquired property and that people are equal (should be equal) in that situation.

Which part of that gives you a hate boner ?

Happy fucking new year to you too! :bigjoint:
 

Rob Roy

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I was precise earlier. You returned a distortion.
No, I popped your bubble and pointed out the impossibility of a coercion based entity being able to be the thing which protects people from those who might coerce them. Where's the distortion in that ? You even made a conditional concession to the veracity of that.

Anyhow, since I'm being joyous and all, Happy New Year to you. I hope we both learn alot this year.
 

CatHedral

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No, I popped your bubble and pointed out the impossibility of a coercion based entity being able to be the thing which protects people from those who might coerce them. Where's the distortion in that ? You even made a conditional concession to the veracity of that.

Anyhow, since I'm being joyous and all, Happy New Year to you. I hope we both learn alot this year.
You still have not correctly described my condition. Nor have you given a serious answer to Fogdog.
 

CatHedral

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Can the model include unicorns that poop rainbows?
It can include them being coerced into pooping rainbows, but they don’t do it voluntarily. Their plight is worse than that of veal. This awful truth is being shouted over by those who reject Crap Rainbow Theory in favor of the latest tweet from the mysterious uniQorn (who might actually be a radicalized narwhal) who retweets the fabrications of the even more mysterious ChiropTurd, who is indirectly conning tens of millions into Making Batshit Great Again while howling the lies across the blasted plains of our social media during this time of very bored isolation.
 
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Fogdog

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Post 955. Please answer it (without doing your usual weasel dance) and say which real human society with written records
most closely approached your societal vision.
I have @Rob Roy on ignore and have no regard for his baseless rants about a made up ideology. My question was to Max. He claimed to be libertarian so, as you pointed, my question moved his argument from the imaginary to the real. He never answered. When Roy tried to butt in, he didn't answer either.

My question is a trap. There is no real world example of any of their ideas. Libertarian or anarchocapitalist philosophy has no basis in how people behave or how the real world works. This is why libertarians "eschew" math and science in favor of core principles that they say are inherently true regardless of results from rigorous analysis. The only way to implement it is to drive it down people's throats through starvation or the end of a gun. This is why anarchocapitalism and the US brand of libertarianism is classified as radical authoritarian ideology. They are authoritarian, just like fascism or Stalinist communism. Any difference is in shade, not color.
 

CatHedral

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I have @Rob Roy on ignore and have no regard for his baseless rants about a made up ideology. My question was to Max. He claimed to be libertarian so, as you pointed, my question moved his argument from the imaginary to the real. He never answered. When Roy tried to butt in, he didn't answer either.

My question is a trap. There is no real world example of any of their ideas. Libertarian or anarchocapitalist philosophy has no basis in how people behave or how the real world works. This is why libertarians "eschew" math and science in favor of core principles that they say are inherently true regardless of results from rigorous analysis. The only way to implement it is to drive it down people's throats through starvation or the end of a gun. This is why anarchocapitalism and the US brand of libertarianism is classified as radical authoritarian ideology. They are authoritarian, just like fascism or Stalinist communism. Any difference is in shade, not color.
Sorry.
 
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