nope it's science..the thing that scares so may people into not get vaxxed so they can die in the hospital because Democrats.
the Republicans are sure showing us
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the Republicans are sure showing us
DIY-HP-LED
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California is introducing school vaccine mandates and of course the wingnuts are out in full force! Have a quick look at the video, how seriously can you take a crowd of unmasked morons in the middle of an omicron wave. If I had to guess, I'd say few of the several hundred were vaccinated either. If they were black and protesting rights, they would be tear gassed and dispersed.
How the fuck do they think schools can be reopened in this mess without vaccine mandates? Kids are already mandatorily vaccinated against a host of diseases, so someone is either playing politics or had their heads filled with bullshit. The hospitals are filling with kids coming down with omicron, school without mandatory vaccines would be a disaster for them and their families.
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How the fuck do they think schools can be reopened in this mess without vaccine mandates? Kids are already mandatorily vaccinated against a host of diseases, so someone is either playing politics or had their heads filled with bullshit. The hospitals are filling with kids coming down with omicron, school without mandatory vaccines would be a disaster for them and their families.
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Hundreds Protest Vaccine Mandate For Children At California State Capitol
"We are completely against any kind of COVID-19 vaccine mandate for children," one activist said. "We don't think it's necessary. We think parents can make their own decisions for their children's health."
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CatHedral
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Short answer? My congressman is McCarthy.California is introducing school vaccine mandates and of course the wingnuts are out in full force! Have a quick look at the video, how seriously can you take a crowd of unmasked morons in the middle of an omicron wave. If I had to guess, I'd say few of the several hundred were vaccinated either. If they were black and protesting rights, they would be tear gassed and dispersed.
How the fuck do they think schools can be reopened in this mess without vaccine mandates? Kids are already mandatorily vaccinated against a host of diseases, so someone is either playing politics or had their heads filled with bullshit. The hospitals are filling with kids coming down with omicron, school without mandatory vaccines would be a disaster for them and their families.
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Hundreds Protest Vaccine Mandate For Children At California State Capitol
"We are completely against any kind of COVID-19 vaccine mandate for children," one activist said. "We don't think it's necessary. We think parents can make their own decisions for their children's health."
Roger A. Shrubber
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honestly, at the moment, i wouldn't even send my kid to school, i'd just home school them as well as i could, make sure they stick to some kind of lesson plan, and let them catch up next year, or the year after, if that's how long it takes, and i'd be doing it because of fucking morons like those ^California is introducing school vaccine mandates and of course the wingnuts are out in full force! Have a quick look at the video, how seriously can you take a crowd of unmasked morons in the middle of an omicron wave. If I had to guess, I'd say few of the several hundred were vaccinated either. If they were black and protesting rights, they would be tear gassed and dispersed.
How the fuck do they think schools can be reopened in this mess without vaccine mandates? Kids are already mandatorily vaccinated against a host of diseases, so someone is either playing politics or had their heads filled with bullshit. The hospitals are filling with kids coming down with omicron, school without mandatory vaccines would be a disaster for them and their families.
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Hundreds Protest Vaccine Mandate For Children At California State Capitol
"We are completely against any kind of COVID-19 vaccine mandate for children," one activist said. "We don't think it's necessary. We think parents can make their own decisions for their children's health."
i'd rather have my kid be a year behind and healthy than up to date and in the hospital, or suffering from long covid symptoms well into their adulthood...
Budley Doright
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Is there a mandate in your province re schools? I don’t think it mandated in any Canadian jurisdiction is it?California is introducing school vaccine mandates and of course the wingnuts are out in full force! Have a quick look at the video, how seriously can you take a crowd of unmasked morons in the middle of an omicron wave. If I had to guess, I'd say few of the several hundred were vaccinated either. If they were black and protesting rights, they would be tear gassed and dispersed.
How the fuck do they think schools can be reopened in this mess without vaccine mandates? Kids are already mandatorily vaccinated against a host of diseases, so someone is either playing politics or had their heads filled with bullshit. The hospitals are filling with kids coming down with omicron, school without mandatory vaccines would be a disaster for them and their families.
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Hundreds Protest Vaccine Mandate For Children At California State Capitol
"We are completely against any kind of COVID-19 vaccine mandate for children," one activist said. "We don't think it's necessary. We think parents can make their own decisions for their children's health."
DIY-HP-LED
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Not here yet, but the vaccines are still under emergency use for younger kids. I figure it's coming though, we used to have mandatory vaccinations but some politician dropped them after listening to antivaxxers. I dunno who the idiot who changed public health policy was and would like to find out. They never consulted experts and made changes to public policy based on pure disproven bullshit. Someone pandered to a miniscule (before covid) minority of idiots and put the province at risk, I'd like some accountability and perhaps hearings on why these changes were made years ago.
CunningCanuk
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That’s my knee jerk reaction too and it’s a smart one, imo.
There is a social development issue to consider as well and why it’s tough to be a parent these days. We know nobody safer than we’ve been throughout the pandemic. Our families think we are crazy because of the precautions we’ve taken but if schools go back to in person next week, my daughter will be going. We were lucky last year in that she performed well with online school and I think it made her a better student for the future.
However, if we kept her from going back while all of her friends went, I fear the impact on her health would be worse than the virus. I don’t want her to go back to school right now but I believe, unfortunately it’s not up to me.
DIY-HP-LED
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Tough call Canuck, made easier by vaccines for her and boosters for you and your wife. There is an inevitability to this and if one is going to get sick it would be nice to do so while the hospitals are empty and there are lot's of therapeutics and testing for early detection. Antiviral drugs still work against omicron, one being 80% effective and the other 30% and by spring they should be available in some quantity. When the wave passes by spring there will be beds and drugs if ya went downhill. The problem is making it to spring for most folks, but many will have been recently boosted too, not to mention infected.
Budley Doright
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I totally understand your position and would probably do the same, but it is up to you as it’s your choice to homeschool, is it not? I’m not in the loop re schooling as it’s been 15 years since last daughter finished public school. I could not do the home schooling and know it lol. When I started to formally teach young adults my trade, it was extremely tough. I started training and designing workshops and not just on the work site around 15 years ago. That’s why I’d admire teachers, home schoolers, and the special talents “most” of them have. I also would be a tad conflicted, I don‘t envy the choices you, Fog, and others must make.
Budley Doright
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Well the reason I asked was it kind of sounded like you were making those people (California) sound like they were an outlier when in fact it’s not yet fully mandated in any schools in North America, that I’m aware of. I’m sure the reasoning, right or wrong, is the fact there is still some uncertainty with kids and the vaccine. It’s an extremely tough call to make IMO. Me getting it was an easy decision but me authorizing it for my child is not so easy.
CatHedral
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I’d like to know your cost/benefit analysis that made authorizing not easy.
DIY-HP-LED
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The vaccines are under emergency use for younger kids I believe and that is an issue. I believe mandatory vaccinations are the norm in many school jurisdictions though, covid being the exception. I find it hard to take unmasked crowds in the midst of a omicron pandemic seriously though. In this environment masks mean political affiliation and common sense most often and there wasn't a mask in the crowd and I doubt many were vaccinated. California is a bell weather state and trends often start there first. We are about to have our own fight over this in schools in Canada and some provinces may impose broader vaccine mandates. The feds are meeting with the provinces on it, it's in their power, but Alberta and Saskatchewan have already said they won't play ball. Other provinces could though and place restrictions on them.
Budley Doright
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LOL! It has nothing to do with that, but everything to do with feels, not knowing if in fact there could possibly be long term consequences, that are still unknown, it would be a tough choice for me. But I didn’t have to make that decision as their older now and make their own choices, and glad I didn’t. If you have one please feel free to share it, it may help others.
Budley Doright
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And I’m sure there will be a few large protest here as well. It, on the other hand, is Canada.
LOL
captainmorgan
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Cyprus reportedly discovers a Covid variant that combines omicron and delta
www.cnbc.com
Cyprus reportedly discovers a Covid variant that combines omicron and delta
The strain is being called "deltacron."
Budley Doright
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Just turned on the news and Ontario has 312 in ICU and over 2000 in hospitals today ........ not very good news re capacity limits and health care workers 
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DIY-HP-LED
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The trouble with burying your head in the sand, is yer asshole is stuck up in the air ready to get fucked!
zeddd
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Gray love is so 2022
C. Nesbitt
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Parent of two teens in school, one 13 and one 16. It’s a hard discussion for sure - weighing Covid risks against falling behind educationally/socially. My wife and I have discussed it quite a lot over the past two years.
Both kids much prefer to be in school, as do the majority of their friends, FWIW.
Regarding homeschooling, I will say that in our area, the people that choose to homeschool tend to all be be right wing evangelicals. By home schooling I mean choosing to do the educating at home outside of a traditional school versus choosing remote learning through a school system. Just an observation though, YMMV.
We know two families through sports that have chosen that route for their families. Both decided to homeschool because they felt their values were not reflected by the local school district. Both have recently seized on CRT and transgender acceptance in schools as further proof of why they should be homeschooling. Both of the moms doing the homeschooling have only a high school education. I have no issue with their level of education but do question why they think they are more qualified to teach their kids than actual trained educators. Both families are fully unvaccinated too, so homeschooling for them at least has nothing to do with trying to avoid COVID.
Point being, homeschooling is an option but my general experience is that those doing it are doing so because they have a right wing agenda, not a health based one.
captainmorgan
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A Record-Breaking Number Of Children Under The Age Of 5 Are Being Hospitalized With COVID-19
A startling number of children under the age of 5 are being hospitalized with COVID-19 amid the sweeping surge of the Omicron variant.
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