Will You Take The Vaccine?

[DurumGallico]

What kind of scare shitty asshole does someone have to be to not care about sick kids and helping our hospital workers and spread propaganda by using cherry picked data from prior to the Omicron strain?

Situation in US with kids is special, no other country has this kind of rate, and is primarly due to obesity amongst children we don't find anywhere else.
In my country i'm not killing little children by not being vaccinated, so stop your flow of childish insults against me, thanks

*And you're out of point since we were talking about adults.

 

[OG-KGP]

Maybe you are wrong about vaccines and got lucky with omicron, many are not so lucky. You had no valid reason to refuse vaccination other than fear and bullshit. Maybe your one of the 18 to 34 year old's who are vaccine resistant, it doesn't really matter, you put yourself before your neighbors and community. What do heroes have in common and why are they universally admired? They put others before themselves and when people do the opposite, they get the opposite reaction.

I am a hero to my wife and kids. Not the world, and I'm fine with that. Myself, my wife, and kids will always be put before anyone being neighbors or community.

I don't fear the vaccine, hell, they are just finding out how long immunity lasts. But they are 100% positive that there are no long term effects? Oh the hypocrisy.

This is America. I will take the vaccine when and when I feel comfortable. I have been vaccinated before.

Polio being one. DNA vaccine. Which is 99% effective. This is totally different, an RNA vaccine that studies are still testing how efficient it is exactly. RNA viruses mutate, so it doesn't offer any level close to what a DNA vaccine would do. I will not keep sticking boosters in my arm year after year for a viruses I know I can beat with no problem. Sorry not sorry.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

And we come to the point that makes it a non sense, how do you define the easiness of the cure ? I mean stop smoking is up to you, you have medecine to help you, if you don't do so you are just an unconscious selfish undirect killer. Same bullshit logic.

Medecine is and a has always be a personal choice. Zero fallacy here, just an obvious rule applied for centuries.
Obligatory vaccines prevent from serious and dangerous diseases. Covid is not tetanos, covid is not polio, covid is not diphtérie.
There is not a single reason to force vaccination against covid since they don't prevent transmission and spread. And even, if it was, it would be a hard moral and ethic question and not an obvious thing that only fearing weak people against a jab shouldn't follow.

It has been proven that vaccinated people often do not even become sick and when they do, they have mild cases of short duration that transmit much less virus to others. You can't argue with the statistics and facts and they have been posted multiple times, you can lie and distort the information, but not argue directly with the facts. The vaccines prevent serious illness and hospitalizations in those who do get sick.

Losing weight and breaking addictions are a lot harder than getting the jab and a different standard applies. Almost everybody who is fat wants to be thin and most addicts want to be free, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. That's why people who are unvaxxed and get covid, should pay their own medical bills and insurance companies will agree, so will employers. There is a reason over 80% of people are vaccinated, they are right and you are wrong. Everybody will get omicron though, even the vaxxed eventually, as immunity wanes. Having the immune system primed though makes for an easier ride and less damage done.

 

[hanimmal]

Situation in US with kids is special, no other country has this kind of rate, and is primarly due to obesity amongst children we don't find anywhere else.
In my country i'm not killing little children by not being vaccinated, so stop your flow of childish insults against me, thanks

And you know this about America how? Or are you just going off of your 'feels'?

 

[OG-KGP]

So you are saying that U of M children's hospital is lying when they say that they are almost out of room for all the sick kids?

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/michigan-medicine-feeling-the-surge-of-omicron-covid-19-cases
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What kind of scare shitty asshole does someone have to be to not care about sick kids and helping our hospital workers and spread propaganda by using cherry picked data from prior to the Omicron strain?

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I do know for fact our justice on the supreme court lied about this at the recent hearing. Inflated the numbers that have been fact checked and it proves she is damn liar. And this is who interprets law of the land at the highest level?

WH mute on Sotomayor’s COVID misinformation after labeling lies a ‘crisis’

White House press secretary Jen Psaki declined to address Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor’s false claims about the Omicron variant of COVID-19.

nypost.com

 

[CunningCanuk]

I also know a health care worker who had 2 shots and a booster and has caught covid three times and was pretty ill. Maybe it was because she was fat, unhealthy, eats junk food, and doesn't exercise.

Maybe better life choices are better than any vaccine?

the cemeteries hold a lot of healthy people who took good care of themselves. Would you have unprotected sex with someone you knew suffered from syphilis or gonorrhoea because you eat well and are fit?

anyone with a rudimentary understanding of how infectious diseases work wouldn’t, how about you?

 

[CatHedral]

Lol i'm sorry for you, don't know what happened in your life to be such a dick but i feel you bro

Never mind what you think of him personally. He brings valid points. I notice you are ignoring those in favor of empty insult. Descartes weeps.

Do you have the bac?

 

[OG-KGP]

It has been proven that vaccinated people often do not even become sick and when they do, they have mild cases of short duration that transmit much less virus to others. You can't argue with the statistics and facts and they have been posted multiple times, you can lie and distort the information, but not argue directly with the facts. The vaccines prevent serious illness and hospitalizations in those who do get sick.

Losing weight and breaking addictions are a lot harder than getting the jab and a different standard applies. Almost everybody who is fat wants to be thin and most addicts want to be free, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. That's why people who are unvaxxed and get covid, should pay their own medical bills and insurance companies will agree, so will employers. There is a reason over 80% of people are vaccinated, they are right and you are wrong. Everybody will get omicron though, even the vaxxed eventually, as immunity wanes. Having the immune system primed though makes for an easier ride and less damage done.

Bunch of crap. Fats dont want to be thin, or they would do it. Junkies dont want to be clean, or they would do it.

I beat addiction decades ago and am 40 years old with less than 10% body fat at 200 lbs and ripped with muslce. I work hard everyday. Its not easy but can be done if you want to bad enough.

 

[OG-KGP]

the cemeteries hold a lot of healthy people who took good care of themselves. Would you have unprotected sex with someone you knew suffered from syphilis or gonorrhoea because you eat well and are fit?

anyone with a rudimentary understanding of how infectious diseases work wouldn’t, how about you?

No government or vaccine will keep you from death. We will all face that road whether sooner or later. It is a fact no one can deny. I choose to live my life. I'm here for a good time, not a long time.

 

[DurumGallico]

It has been proven that vaccinated people often do not even become sick and when they do, they have mild cases of short duration that transmit much less virus to others. You can't argue with the statistics and facts and they have been posted multiple times, you can lie and distort the information, but not argue directly with the facts. The vaccines prevent serious illness and hospitalizations in those who do get sick.

Losing weight and breaking addictions are a lot harder than getting the jab and a different standard applies. Almost everybody who is fat wants to be thin and most addicts want to be free, the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. That's why people who are unvaxxed and get covid, should pay their own medical bills and insurance companies will agree, so will employers. There is a reason over 80% of people are vaccinated, they are right and you are wrong. Everybody will get omicron though, even the vaxxed eventually, as immunity wanes. Having the immune system primed though makes for an easier ride and less damage done.

I'm so true that even pfizer and Israël government agree with me.
Israël changes his strategy due to the lack of efficiency against transmission, gets the pcr tests to +50yo people only and focus on high risk population.
Pfizer said two days ago the were working on a new vaccine that should be efficient against omicron transmission since the actual one has avery low efficiency.
You have vaccinated people being sick going to hospital and die also, even if it's like 10% less it makes your logic false.
And even, 90% efficiency is against severe forms, not transmission. It'estimated around 40% against delta. And it definitely makes sense to my points.
It's just your point of view why people refuse covid vaccine, there is ton others you might not have thought about, legit ones, my first obvious one being NO, not everyone needs vaccine since they are not seriously threatened by the disease. I certainly won't accept to buy something i don't want and need, it stops there it's not a matter of fear or selfishness or else, i don't need it you don't have to force me taking it, end of story. And i definitely should have access to health care as anybody else.
There's also hippocratic oath, you don't refuse patients based on their beliefs or vaccinal status it's also anobvious thing that you forget.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I am a hero to my wife and kids. Not the world, and I'm fine with that. Myself, my wife, and kids will always be put before anyone being neighbors or community.

I don't fear the vaccine, hell, they are just finding out how long immunity lasts. But they are 100% positive that there are no long term effects? Oh the hypocrisy.

This is America. I will take the vaccine when and when I feel comfortable. I have been vaccinated before.

Polio being one. DNA vaccine. Which is 99% effective. This is totally different, an RNA vaccine that studies are still testing how efficient it is exactly. RNA viruses mutate, so it doesn't offer any level close to what a DNA vaccine would do. I will not keep sticking boosters in my arm year after year for a viruses I know I can beat with no problem. Sorry not sorry.

You an expert? Degrees in virology or epidemiology? Then trust the experts, there is no giant conspiracy involving millions of scientists globally. You hadve already had a half dozen or more vaccinations in childhood.

 

[CatHedral]

I do know for fact our justice on the supreme court lied about this at the recent hearing. Inflated the numbers that have been fact checked and it proves she is damn liar. And this is who interprets law of the land at the highest level?

WH mute on Sotomayor’s COVID misinformation after labeling lies a ‘crisis’

White House press secretary Jen Psaki declined to address Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor’s false claims about the Omicron variant of COVID-19.

nypost.com

No, it proves that the Post is applying its well-documented bias. Sotomayor is not a statistician and probably misspoke. Compare to a less seriously biased source.

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[CunningCanuk]

Bunch of crap. Fats dont want to be thin, or they would do it. Junkies dont want to be clean, or they would do it.

I beat addiction decades ago and am 40 years old with less than 10% body fat at 200 lbs and ripped with muslce. I work hard everyday. Its not easy but can be done if you want to bad enough.

You go girl!

 

[hanimmal]

I do know for fact our justice on the supreme court lied about this at the recent hearing. Inflated the numbers that have been fact checked and it proves she is damn liar. And this is who interprets law of the land?

WH mute on Sotomayor’s COVID misinformation after labeling lies a ‘crisis’

White House press secretary Jen Psaki declined to address Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor’s false claims about the Omicron variant of COVID-19.

nypost.com

You pushing more of that right wing propaganda rag?

Is 84k kids confirmed having Covid and recorded, and her saying over 100k, really big enough difference for you to pretend like that makes her a 'damn liar'?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/08/sotomayors-false-claim-that-over-100000-children-are-serious-condition-with-covid/

Bunch of crap. Fats dont want to be thin, or they would do it. Junkies dont want to be clean, or they would do it.

I beat addiction decades ago and am 40 years old with less than 10% body fat at 200 lbs and ripped with muslce. I work hard everyday. Its not easy but can be done if you want to bad enough.

Shame you didn't work harder at your ability to not get sucked into right wing propaganda. A couple hours a day learning math and science might go a long way.

 

[OG-KGP]

You an expert? Degrees in virology or epidemiology? Then trust the experts, there is no giant conspiracy involving millions of scientists globally. You hadve already had a half dozen or more vaccinations in childhood.

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If fauci would quit lying, it might make me feel better.

 

[CatHedral]

Situation in US with kids is special, no other country has this kind of rate, and is primarly due to obesity amongst children we don't find anywhere else.
In my country i'm not killing little children by not being vaccinated, so stop your flow of childish insults against me, thanks

*And you're out of point since we were talking about adults.

Back the bolded with a peer-reviewed reference. Until then it is presumed propaganda.

 

[DurumGallico]

And you know this about America how? Or are you just going off of your 'feels'?

CDC says it.

Prevalence of Childhood Obesity in the United States
On This Page

• Prevalence of Childhood Obesity in the United States
• Obesity and Socioeconomic Status
• Women, Infant, Children (WIC) Data

Childhood obesity is a serious problem in the United States, putting children and adolescents at risk for poor health. Obesity prevalence among children and adolescents is still too high.

For children and adolescents aged 2-19 years in 2017-20181:

• The prevalence of obesity was 19.3% and affected about 14.4 million children and adolescents.
• Obesity prevalence was 13.4% among 2- to 5-year-olds, 20.3% among 6- to 11-year-olds, and 21.2% among 12- to 19-year-olds. Childhood obesity is also more common among certain populations.
• Obesity prevalence was 25.6% among Hispanic children, 24.2% among non-Hispanic Black children, 16.1% among non-Hispanic White children, and 8.7% among non-Hispanic Asian children.

1Read CDC National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) data brief

Childhood Obesity Facts | Overweight & Obesity | CDC

Childhood obesity is a serious problem in the United States. Learn more...

www.cdc.gov

 

[CunningCanuk]

No government or vaccine will keep you from death. We will all face that road whether sooner or later. It is a fact no one can deny. I choose to live my life. I'm here for a good time, not a long time.

Conveniently, you didn’t answer my question though.

 

[CatHedral]

If fauci would quit lying, it might make me feel better.

Document even one Fauci lie in the nonMaga press.

 

[HGCC]

Document even one Fauci lie in the nonMaga press.

That's the catch, apparently we hide all the lies.