Will You Take The Vaccine?

Are you going to take the corona virus vaccine?

  • No.

  • Yes.


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zeddd

Well-Known Member
Which differences do we have regarding the facts? I have no disagreement with your assertion that the current vaccines are not great to protect people against infection. Your extrapolation of that fact to say vaccines are ineffective is false.

Mandating vaccines as a requirement to work is legal. The rest of your confused post has nothing to do with that.

The vaccines are safe and effective. End of story.
End of story? If so there should be no need for further vaccine development for new variants. Imo we need to keep up with the emerging story and keep developing better biotech. The efficacy question is moot depending on whether you mean infection transmission or morbidity/mortality.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
like i just sentenced one argument here.
All i said was facts just deal with it.

And vaccine mandatory is against the law. Except on a few specific places and that might be comprehensible, against covid in the whole population it's absolute nonsense and will never be, in France at least. And since vaccines only prevent severe forms and not spreading it should not be used as a restrictive tool to stop the spread.
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Which differences do we have regarding the facts? I have no disagreement with your assertion that the current vaccines are not great to protect people against infection. Your extrapolation of that fact to say vaccines are ineffective is false.

Mandating vaccines as a requirement to work is legal. The rest of your confused post has nothing to do with that.

The vaccines are safe and effective. End of story.
Other than the percentage of them the new Death Cult troll seems to ignore?
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
From the reports I've seen omicron is going to change more than the conversation about vaccines. It is pretty well established that vaccinations offer protection from severe illness in most people and a booster does even better. The gross protection with vaccines wanes over a few months, but with natural infection there is residual immunity targeting another part of the virus. We will probably see a different approach to vaccines and different or multiple targets, other than the spike protein.

Omicron is as infectious as measles according to some experts and while vaccines offer some protection and boosters even more, most people will become infected with omicron as immunity wanes. Being vaccinated makes a difference and can save many people from the worst outcomes. Apparently omicron is one third as virulent as delta and about 4X more contagious. Virulence is measured by hospitalizations, length of illness and severity. This does not speak to potential long term effects of omicron or long covid, more time will have to pass for that to be known.

The governments are changing policy based on a new emerging scientific consensus about omicron based on it's virulence and contagiousness. There might not be as much heat on the unvaxxed soon, since they will all be naturally immunized and many of the vaxxed will be naturally boosted by spring. Unless it mutates into a more contagious and virulent strain that evades previous immunity, it is gonna join the other four common cold coronaviruses.

We will be dealing with covid and it's after effects for awhile to come, but the pandemic as we have known it will be largely gone by summer. You never know though, covid has thrown us a few curve balls, but pandemics do end naturally, without vaccines. It is contagiousness, not virulence that wins the viral race and other viruses can attenuate.
 

printer

Well-Known Member
Glenn Beck says he has COVID-19 for second time
Speaking to Mark Levin on Levin's radio show, Beck said he's had the virus for about a week. He told Levin he was "great, except having COVID and seeing the destruction of our country."

Beck said this was a "lighter case, but it's now starting to go into my lungs today, which is a little disturbing," adding, "I'm on all the medications and treatments and everything else, so we'll see."

Beck told Tucker Carlson in April that he previously had COVID-19 and because of that he would not be getting vaccinated.

Beck told Levin he was not being treated with monoclonal antibodies, some of which are less effective against the omicron strain of the virus, but was instead taking ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, fluvoxamine — none of which are approved coronavirus treatments — and that his doctors were "hitting it really hard."

The two went on to discuss unproven medical claims about the drugs, with Beck claiming that it was "basic science."

Beck posted about his second positive test on his Instagram as well, calling it "just the worst ‘cold’ I have ever had," and lamenting the lack of accessibility to unapproved treatments, some of which were heavily touted by former President Trump and his allies.

Beck told Levin he is "not concerned," about his infection, adding that he is "so done with this whole COVID thing," and that "we have got to move on with our lives."

He also joked that he was "a fatty-fat-fatso," and said "that's probably not the best thing," while also noting "I've got some other issues."
 

CatHedral

Well-Known Member
Glenn Beck says he has COVID-19 for second time
Speaking to Mark Levin on Levin's radio show, Beck said he's had the virus for about a week. He told Levin he was "great, except having COVID and seeing the destruction of our country."

Beck said this was a "lighter case, but it's now starting to go into my lungs today, which is a little disturbing," adding, "I'm on all the medications and treatments and everything else, so we'll see."

Beck told Tucker Carlson in April that he previously had COVID-19 and because of that he would not be getting vaccinated.

Beck told Levin he was not being treated with monoclonal antibodies, some of which are less effective against the omicron strain of the virus, but was instead taking ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, fluvoxamine — none of which are approved coronavirus treatments — and that his doctors were "hitting it really hard."

The two went on to discuss unproven medical claims about the drugs, with Beck claiming that it was "basic science."

Beck posted about his second positive test on his Instagram as well, calling it "just the worst ‘cold’ I have ever had," and lamenting the lack of accessibility to unapproved treatments, some of which were heavily touted by former President Trump and his allies.

Beck told Levin he is "not concerned," about his infection, adding that he is "so done with this whole COVID thing," and that "we have got to move on with our lives."

He also joked that he was "a fatty-fat-fatso," and said "that's probably not the best thing," while also noting "I've got some other issues."
He is watching the destruction he daily helps happen, the hypocrite.
 

Sir Napsalot

Well-Known Member
My solution?

Let the fat be fat. Same way the vaxed be vaxed.

No camps, that was the nazi's.

When you get older, and you don't want a gut, diet and exercise. Its simple. If having a gut doesn't bother you, grow it.

I am self disciplined as I claim. I'm doing alright financially. I smoke pot. I really like it. Its a hobby of mine. I know all the negative effects and could quit if I wanted to at any time.

Everything is temporary. Thats the law of time. No getting around that. Ive been working out since about 15 years old. I am forty now.

Not bragging but here is current physic.

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Public restroom?
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
End of story? If so there should be no need for further vaccine development for new variants. Imo we need to keep up with the emerging story and keep developing better biotech. The efficacy question is moot depending on whether you mean infection transmission or morbidity/mortality.
End of that story. Somehow I managed to switch off funding for all research with a badly worded post? I'll do my best to switch it back on because I agree that much more research is needed.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
Macron is a total psycho and i'm not surprised you liked hearing he was expressing his sadistic tendencies on his new scapegoat. You seem to be as psycho as him.
Does Macron have the power to do what he says? Do most people support his actions? Have you tried to understand why he says what he does?

In this country, people like you can quit their jobs if they don't like constitutionally valid vaccine mandates. Your body, your choice.
 

Fogdog

Well-Known Member
like i just sentenced one argument here.
All i said was facts just deal with it.

And vaccine mandatory is against the law. Except on a few specific places and that might be comprehensible, against covid in the whole population it's absolute nonsense and will never be, in France at least. And since vaccines only prevent severe forms and not spreading it should not be used as a restrictive tool to stop the spread.
If you are a French citizen, then maybe you are right about laws in France. France's legal system is unimportant to me. If you don't like the laws then get them changed.

In the US, we have plenty of employers who require vaccination as a condition of employment. The armed forces have them too. This has been settled for at least two hundred years.

I agree that it's probably not something the US government can mandate to US citizens. But that is not necessary. The US Supreme Court will rule soon on whether or not Biden's mandate that employers over a certain size in workforce have a mandate in place. For many of them, they already put one in place because it make good business sense. And that's the point.
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
Glenn Beck, who said he didn’t need the vaccine – is VERY sick with Covid, I'm rooting for the virus on this one.
I think he's at least vaxxed, I had him figured for the con artist type, say he's unvaxxed when he is. However we can always hope. Too bad Tucker is vaxxed and delta is fading away...
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
Interesting when the science says two vaccines no good for current strain ( other strains have gone now) having had the disease is better but 3 shots are better still. Do you think you need to adapt the narrative in the light of this new science?
Yes its strange that it’s based on one shot. Would have like to hear that policy discussion
 
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