zeddd
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You would be a good camp guard, crack that whip louder
Will You Take The Vaccine?
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Roger A. Shrubber
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i don't understand the significance of your last sentence? it IS the same story every day, all over the world, and people do become numb to it after a lifetime of seeing it daily. they were numb to it before covid, and they'll add covid statistics to it soon enough and quit caring about those, too
i remember when 1k dead per day was huge; now it's around 1600 daily in US- they don't even talk about it anymore. the interactive map has been relegated to the bottom right (below the fold in the before at newsstands).
this week we had 780k new infections basically 1M weekly.
i would just stay home.
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zeddd
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The point is about proportionality, Medicine is triaged, every life is important.
It doesn’t matter if those uninvolved stop caring or become numb as they have no input. It matters if the medical staff become numb or demotivated (because they are being coerced in the strongest terms ie job security) as patient care will suffer. Hundreds die every day from sugar and tobacco, the numbers are going up, covid is on the wane, sorry to be the bearer of good news.
well, when it's considered that death would be preferred after contracting..?
you are correct; i pointed out the link between millions falling off PUA (they're still unemployed), Jamie Dimon's blessing of economic bliss and Bidens get a vaccine to the tone deaf who booed That Man when he revealed his booster shot.
That Man can't even control them anymore.
our economy is overheated with inflation.
Mr. Dimon, please go grocery shopping.
this is not going to end well if the gaslight doesn't stop.
Reek Romney needs to shut the fuck up.
END THE FILIBUSTER NOW SO WE CAN GET BILLS PASSED!
printer
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Manitoba is already seeing a record level of hospitalizations related to COVID-19 and hundreds more are expected in the coming weeks. The Public Health Agency of Canada released its prediction for the Omicron wave, and the forecast for close to 200 new daily COVID-19 hospitalizations has Dr. Renate Singh worried we’re headed for what she called an emerging mass casualty situation.
“It’s not like we didn’t know that, but it is shocking and sobering to see it on paper,” said Dr. Renate Singh, an anesthesiologist who works for the Winnipeg Regional Health Authority and Shared Health. “I don’t think this kind of picture was made clear enough in the explanation of our current provincial situation,” she told CTV News Friday.
“We are destined, I’m afraid, to be in quite a pickle in terms of taking care of everyone who needs us,” Singh said.
Dr. Kristjan Thompson, president of Doctors Manitoba, said on Thursday part of the anxiety doctors have is not knowing what the plan is for when the hospital system runs out of bed capacity.
“I fear for scenarios where we are in a situation where it’s a crisis standard of care,” he said.
Singh said she feels the same, as there have been recent days where the Grace Hospital ER had double the number of patients in the space than what it was designed to hold. She said she and her colleagues talk daily about what may happen if there isn’t space for people. “Where are they going to go? Do we have a field hospital somewhere we haven’t been told about yet? Are they going to be reclaiming every spare space?”
Dr. Singh said Manitobans need to do everything in their power to prevent from getting infected during this critical period, because it stretches out the pandemic and the impact on the health-care system.
A Shared Health spokesperson said on Thursday, there were 1,444 medicine beds across the heath system with 157 beds vacant.
Manitoba doctors worried about Omicron surge in hospitals
Manitoba is already seeing a record level of hospitalizations related to COVID-19 and hundreds more are expected in the coming weeks.
COVID-19 hospitalizations in Manitoba reach 517 with 18 more reported on Friday
Manitoba reported 18 new COVID-19 hospitalizations and five new deaths on Friday, according to the province's online dashboard.
The increase in hospitalizations pushes that total to 517, while the number of COVID-19 patients in intensive care units across the province decreased to 45 from 47 on Thursday.
As of midnight, there were 102 patients in Manitoba ICUs, a Shared Health spokesperson says. That is the combined total of both COVID and non-COVID patients.
The critical care program's normal, pre-COVID baseline capacity was 72 patients.
New outbreaks have been declared at:
- Grace Hospital, 3 North, in Winnipeg.
- Health Sciences Centre, unit GA3, in Winnipeg.
- Calvary Place personal care home in Winnipeg.
- Park Manor personal care home in Winnipeg.
- Charleswood Care Centre personal care home in Winnipeg.
- Victoria General Hospital, 4 South, in Winnipeg.
- Luther Home, personal care home in Winnipeg.
- Children's Hospital, unit CK5, in Winnipeg.
- St. Claude Personal Care Home in St. Claude.
- Crocus Court Personal Care Home in Roblin.
- Villa Youville Inc. in Ste. Anne.
- Red River Place personal care home in Selkirk.
Looking for some good news.
he doesn't get that once he's part of our little flock, he may only leave at the pleasure of Mod God.
you're in the single digits?Manitoba is already seeing a record level of hospitalizations related to COVID-19 and hundreds more are expected in the coming weeks. The Public Health Agency of Canada released its prediction for the Omicron wave, and the forecast for close to 200 new daily COVID-19 hospitalizations has Dr. Renate Singh worried we’re headed for what she called an emerging mass casualty situation.
“It’s not like we didn’t know that, but it is shocking and sobering to see it on paper,” said Dr. Renate Singh, an anesthesiologist who works for the Winnipeg Regional Health Authority and Shared Health. “I don’t think this kind of picture was made clear enough in the explanation of our current provincial situation,” she told CTV News Friday.
“We are destined, I’m afraid, to be in quite a pickle in terms of taking care of everyone who needs us,” Singh said.
Dr. Kristjan Thompson, president of Doctors Manitoba, said on Thursday part of the anxiety doctors have is not knowing what the plan is for when the hospital system runs out of bed capacity.
“I fear for scenarios where we are in a situation where it’s a crisis standard of care,” he said.
Singh said she feels the same, as there have been recent days where the Grace Hospital ER had double the number of patients in the space than what it was designed to hold. She said she and her colleagues talk daily about what may happen if there isn’t space for people. “Where are they going to go? Do we have a field hospital somewhere we haven’t been told about yet? Are they going to be reclaiming every spare space?”
Dr. Singh said Manitobans need to do everything in their power to prevent from getting infected during this critical period, because it stretches out the pandemic and the impact on the health-care system.
A Shared Health spokesperson said on Thursday, there were 1,444 medicine beds across the heath system with 157 beds vacant.
Manitoba doctors worried about Omicron surge in hospitals
Manitoba is already seeing a record level of hospitalizations related to COVID-19 and hundreds more are expected in the coming weeks.winnipeg.ctvnews.ca
COVID-19 hospitalizations in Manitoba reach 517 with 18 more reported on Friday
Manitoba reported 18 new COVID-19 hospitalizations and five new deaths on Friday, according to the province's online dashboard.
The increase in hospitalizations pushes that total to 517, while the number of COVID-19 patients in intensive care units across the province decreased to 45 from 47 on Thursday.
As of midnight, there were 102 patients in Manitoba ICUs, a Shared Health spokesperson says. That is the combined total of both COVID and non-COVID patients.
The critical care program's normal, pre-COVID baseline capacity was 72 patients.
New outbreaks have been declared at:
- Grace Hospital, 3 North, in Winnipeg.
- Health Sciences Centre, unit GA3, in Winnipeg.
- Calvary Place personal care home in Winnipeg.
- Park Manor personal care home in Winnipeg.
- Charleswood Care Centre personal care home in Winnipeg.
- Victoria General Hospital, 4 South, in Winnipeg.
- Luther Home, personal care home in Winnipeg.
- Children's Hospital, unit CK5, in Winnipeg.
- St. Claude Personal Care Home in St. Claude.
- Crocus Court Personal Care Home in Roblin.
- Villa Youville Inc. in Ste. Anne.
- Red River Place personal care home in Selkirk.
Looking for some good news.
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printer
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Yes, wish the government data showed them better but they are on a graph with hospital admissions so they are a line in the weeds at the bottom of the chart. Found this one interesting.
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Fogdog
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printer
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CDC guidelines for antivirals give the unvaccinated the lion's share
That a significant percentage of the eligible population would reject such vaccines — too often at the cost of death to themselves or family members — seemed unfathomable. And yet that is precisely what has occurred.
Paradoxically, of the hundreds of unvaccinated patients treated in my hospital over the course of this pandemic, I have yet to see one refuse therapies such as monoclonal antibodies, all of which carry many more side effects than the vaccines they have declined.
Breakthrough cases routinely occur among the vaccinated and boosted. Twenty-five percent of our current COVID-19 hospitalizations have been in vaccinated patients, with a small percent having been boosted as well. These numbers will surely grow in the coming months as vaccine immunities continue to wane. While their prognosis will be better than their unvaccinated counterparts, vaccinated patients will still be hospitalized, suffer and potentially die, particularly if they are afflicted with comorbidities.
The use and administration of these therapies — funded by the federal government without cost to the end user — are governed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and state prioritizations. Although immunosuppressed patients are appropriately atop the list, most unvaccinated patients will be granted the next highest level of priority.
For example, a 35-year-old unvaccinated former smoker with asthma gains priority over a 66-year-old vaccinated cancer patient. Similarly, an unvaccinated 25-year-old smoker with depression takes precedence over a 64-year-old vaccinated patient with chronic pulmonary disease. Indeed, the highest priority on the CDC list does not include a single profile of vaccinated patients other than the immunosuppressed, regardless of other comorbidities. Based on current supplies, unvaccinated patients will receive most of these lifesaving medications.
Health systems and society are benefiting greatly from a renewed focus on health equities. Underpinning it all is the question of fairness. The decision to refuse vaccination is a matter of personal choice, but with choice comes consequence. To date, the adverse consequences of such rejections have shifted from the individual to the community.
CDC guidelines for antivirals give the unvaccinated the lion’s share
Based on current supplies, unvaccinated patients will receive most of these lifesaving medications.
thehill.com
captainmorgan
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CDC guidelines for antivirals give the unvaccinated the lion's share
That a significant percentage of the eligible population would reject such vaccines — too often at the cost of death to themselves or family members — seemed unfathomable. And yet that is precisely what has occurred.
Paradoxically, of the hundreds of unvaccinated patients treated in my hospital over the course of this pandemic, I have yet to see one refuse therapies such as monoclonal antibodies, all of which carry many more side effects than the vaccines they have declined.
Breakthrough cases routinely occur among the vaccinated and boosted. Twenty-five percent of our current COVID-19 hospitalizations have been in vaccinated patients, with a small percent having been boosted as well. These numbers will surely grow in the coming months as vaccine immunities continue to wane. While their prognosis will be better than their unvaccinated counterparts, vaccinated patients will still be hospitalized, suffer and potentially die, particularly if they are afflicted with comorbidities.
The use and administration of these therapies — funded by the federal government without cost to the end user — are governed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and state prioritizations. Although immunosuppressed patients are appropriately atop the list, most unvaccinated patients will be granted the next highest level of priority.
For example, a 35-year-old unvaccinated former smoker with asthma gains priority over a 66-year-old vaccinated cancer patient. Similarly, an unvaccinated 25-year-old smoker with depression takes precedence over a 64-year-old vaccinated patient with chronic pulmonary disease. Indeed, the highest priority on the CDC list does not include a single profile of vaccinated patients other than the immunosuppressed, regardless of other comorbidities. Based on current supplies, unvaccinated patients will receive most of these lifesaving medications.
Health systems and society are benefiting greatly from a renewed focus on health equities. Underpinning it all is the question of fairness. The decision to refuse vaccination is a matter of personal choice, but with choice comes consequence. To date, the adverse consequences of such rejections have shifted from the individual to the community.
CDC guidelines for antivirals give the unvaccinated the lion’s share
Based on current supplies, unvaccinated patients will receive most of these lifesaving medications.
That's some serious bullshit giving these people priority over anything. So let me get this straight, they refuse to protect themselves but we are expedited to sacrifice our health and lives to protect them, FUCK THAT!!!!!. THESE DEPLORIBLES WOULD CELEBRATE OUR DEATHS.
printer
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That is the issue. I do not want to do my part for society but I want society there for me.
Roger A. Shrubber
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you beat me to it...fuck each and every one of them in the eye...guess it's a good thing i'm not in healthcare, because i'd tell the unvaccinated to go home and eat horse dewormer
zeddd
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How would you treat them if it was your job to help them?
Herb & Suds
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Some of us just wouldn't make good caregivers
captainmorgan
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Should be based on medical need and chances of survival, not on how stupid you are.
CunningCanuk
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I know I wouldn’t in this case. It must be so frustrating working so hard to help people that won’t help themselves.Some of us just wouldn't make good caregivers
zeddd
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Unfortunately the stupid ones need more care due to disregarding advice based on their belief in the efficacy of unproven fantastic cures. So they are filling up the beds across the board according to reports in the media. Fact is they take priority due to medical need as you stated.
Roger A. Shrubber
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why do we as a society put up with these people? they're a drain on the rest of us, and they contribute nothing of value, all they do is cost the rest of us money that could be used elsewhere, and resources that will never ever be recouped...
it goes against nature, how long can you defy natural selection before it turns around and mauls you like a giant inbred bear?...we're making our society weaker in the name of "humanity"....how humane is it to burden half of humanity with a bunch of morons that require constant supervision?