On the verge of giving up!!!!

Greenthumbgrower1986

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The feed amount to me seems ok for a soil grow.

how often are you feeding that strength?
Only last 2 waters as she was on dry ammendments then this problem occured and majority of people said to up the feed. The only way I could do that was by using liquid nutes as the dry ammendments take a while to break down and become available and didn't want her to starve. I'm a newbie so have to trial and error everything
 

jondamon

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Only last 2 waters as she was on dry ammendments then this problem occured and majority of people said to up the feed. The only way I could do that was by using liquid nutes as the dry ammendments take a while to break down and become available and didn't want her to starve. I'm a newbie so have to trial and error everything
I was one of them that said you needed heavier feeding with extra N.

Ok how many waters per week are you giving the plant?
 

jondamon

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Twice a week ruffly sometimes 3. She normaly take 1.5 to 2.5l to get around 10% run off
To me twice a week seems a little low.

if you’ve only been using the bottle nutes for 2 feeds i would continue on a little more and wait to see if the upper parts of the plant green up a little more.

If not increase 1 of those 2 feeds to maybe 1500ppm and keep the other feed for the week at the 1000ppm.

I would have expected you to say every other day on the watering.

what size is that fabric pot again?

3Gallon?
 

Greenthumbgrower1986

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To me twice a week seems a little low.

if you’ve only been using the bottle nutes for 2 feeds i would continue on a little more and wait to see if the upper parts of the plant green up a little more.

If not increase 1 of those 2 feeds to maybe 1500ppm and keep the other feed for the week at the 1000ppm.

I would have expected you to say every other day on the watering.

what size is that fabric pot again?

3Gallon?
12.5 litre fabric pot, should I add something to boost nitrogen levels?
 

Greenthumbgrower1986

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To me twice a week seems a little low.

if you’ve only been using the bottle nutes for 2 feeds i would continue on a little more and wait to see if the upper parts of the plant green up a little more.

If not increase 1 of those 2 feeds to maybe 1500ppm and keep the other feed for the week at the 1000ppm.

I would have expected you to say every other day on the watering.

what size is that fabric pot again?

3Gallon?
Also did a slurry test with soil around 2 inches down. I thought maybe a soil pH issue locking nutes out but the slurry was 6.6ph.
 

Markshomegrown

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How many weeks in flower(12/12) are you?
Guessing around 5-6 weeks
And you giving the plants extra nitrogen

Top dress should of worked, I use kemp meal, bone meal, potassium of sulphate

Kemp meal 3.6 4.8 1.4 , trace nutes, all in one
Bonemeal 0.16.9
potassium of sulphate 0.0.48

Good luck.
 

Greenthumbgrower1986

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How many weeks in flower(12/12) are you?
Guessing around 5-6 weeks
And you giving the plants extra nitrogen

Top dress should of worked, I use kemp meal, bone meal, potassium of sulphate

Kemp meal 3.6 4.8 1.4 , trace nutes, all in one
Bonemeal 0.16.9
potassium of sulphate 0.0.48

Good luck.
Week 5 now. On the dry ammendments I use says to change to bloom 2 around week 6. I guess it has less nitro then bloom 1
 

Markshomegrown

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Week 5 now. On the dry ammendments I use says to change to bloom 2 around week 6. I guess it has less nitro then bloom 1
your canopy is not very bushy and your week 5 in flower, so you have to be careful, not saying @jondamon is wrong about the plants needing nitrogen, but its likely to be at a low amount (6-5-6) may be too high, I would keep feeding the plants around 800ppm every water for another week and start the bloom as you said, don't stop giving the plants nitrogen, instead, you want to reduce it over over the next few weeks, you should be able to give the plants both at the same time, just keep the EC under 1000 and the PH between 6.5 and 7
 

Greenthumbgrower1986

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your canopy is not very bushy and your week 5 in flower, so you have to be careful, not saying @jondamon is wrong about the plants needing nitrogen, but its likely to be at a low amount (6-5-6) may be too high, I would keep feeding the plants around 800ppm every water for another week and start the bloom as you said, don't stop giving the plants nitrogen, instead, you want to reduce it over over the next few weeks, you should be able to give the plants both at the same time, just keep the EC under 1000 and the PH between 6.5 and 7
Sorry little confused, so plain water for the next week, then add the bloom 2 dry ammendments or bloom liquid nutes
 

Markshomegrown

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Sorry little confused, so plain water for the next week, then add the bloom 2 dry ammendments or bloom liquid nutes
Feed the plants for the next week liquid 6-5-6 and then move onto the dry amendments or bloom liquid nutes, that's up to you, just saying you will need to keep giving the plants nitrogen even if it's 3.6.7(NPK)

It's always better to slightly underfeed your plants than overfeed them at this stage in flower, its easier to spot any problems, like purple leaves or pale leaves etc
 

Greenthumbgrower1986

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Feed the plants for the next week liquid 6-5-6 and then move onto the dry amendments or bloom liquid nutes, that's up to you, just saying you will need to keep giving the plants nitrogen even if it's 3.6.7(NPK)

It's always better to slightly underfeed your plants than overfeed them at this stage in flower, its easier to spot any problems, like purple leaves or pale leaves etc
Here's a leaf that was around half way up
 

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Greenthumbgrower1986

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your canopy is not very bushy and your week 5 in flower, so you have to be careful, not saying @jondamon is wrong about the plants needing nitrogen, but its likely to be at a low amount (6-5-6) may be too high, I would keep feeding the plants around 800ppm every water for another week and start the bloom as you said, don't stop giving the plants nitrogen, instead, you want to reduce it over over the next few weeks, you should be able to give the plants both at the same time, just keep the EC under 1000 and the PH between 6.5 and 7
That's what I meant when I said development seems to be stunted, somewhere in convo. Buds don't seem to be fattening
 

MichiganGrows44

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Have a look through my thread for my Mars hydro grow which is using the 300w FCE3000

you’ll see the distance I have mine at which is not 20”.

well it was at 20” when the plants were maybe a few weeks old etc.
I have my 300w LED over top of my 2 day old seedlings, they popped up beautifully, but now most bending over to the side, they're only 3/4 inch tall.....I have it at 27" at 25% power
Too far away with light too dim?? Lower it, increase the light to 50%?
 
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