First grow need advice

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Bud man 43

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Also I have a c02 bag at each location with usual 450ppm - 700ppm readings.
The veg is in an open space the finishing room is 3.5’ x 4.5 ft space- i was very careful to seal up the flowering room so no light leaks- the c02 monitor has 2 small green led’s that I should probably tape over but that would be the only light source during dark periods.
 
Mattsmith1871

Mattsmith1871

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I had a few plants herm on me, they looked fine and BAM! Around the same time too wehn pistols just really started coming through....
I had an extension lead with a small led on it which I didn't clock because I'm a tit ruined 4 nice looking plants like yours.
With photos light interruption is a sure way of asking for it, the smallest amount of light can do it, even a pin prick hole..
Is your space 100%light proof? Also is your night schedule during the day? It helps with temps but daylight can be a b**** to keep out, so just an idea.
Your set up sounds ideal and as said before they look super healthy, so I don't think you've done anything in particular to stress them out into doing it. You really have to stress a plant bad for it to do that!
It thinks its dying or something is extremely wrong and tries to fertilize itself to reproduce while it can.
If you'd done something to stress it into hermying I thought you would be able to see signs of the cause? (purple stems wierd growth yellowing leaves stuff like that)

Just my input :)
 
Mattsmith1871

Mattsmith1871

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Bud man 43 said:
Also I have a c02 bag at each location with usual 450ppm - 700ppm readings.
The veg is in an open space the finishing room is 3.5’ x 4.5 ft space- i was very careful to seal up the flowering room so no light leaks- the c02 monitor has 2 small green led’s that I should probably tape over but that would be the only light source during dark periods.
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How bright is the led? People say plants can't 'see' green but I don't know how true that Is
 
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Bud man 43

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I am going to put the next 3 in 5 gallon pots- and let them recover for a week or so-
I will mist down the room a few times and wipe everything down.
Then give it another try
 
Crumpetlicker

Crumpetlicker

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I will probably get shit hung on me for saying this but I would steer clear of feminized and auto seed.
The practices used to produce this kind of seed lead to hermies and watered-down, bottlenecked genetics.
Regular seeds give power to the grower.
You can make your own seed then and move away from handing money over.
Always start with a known seed from a reputable seed company.
Bagseed from commercial grows means that you are starting with hermie traits in the genetics, not ideal.
 
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lusidghost

lusidghost

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Crumpetlicker said:
That is the opposite of what you are doing. I was just trying to help.
I was just trying to think of ways the kid could end up with some smoke. How can it hurt to flower those plants while the next lot are coming through? Seeded bud is better than no bud. That is a fact right there for you champ.
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My apologies, and that's fair. When I first read the post it was one plant. I didn't realize all of them had hermied.
 
bk78

bk78

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Crumpetlicker said:
I will probably get shit hung on me for saying this but I would steer clear of feminized and auto seed.
The practices used to produce this kind of seed lead to hermies and watered-down, bottlenecked genetics.
Regular seeds give power to the grower.
You can make your own seed then and move away from handing money over.
Always start with a known seed from a reputable seed company.
Bagseed from commercial grows means that you are starting with hermie traits in the genetics, not ideal.
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Sounds like it’s a YOU issue here and not the genetics :D
 
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Livingblacksoil

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Bud man 43 said:
Also I have a c02 bag at each location with usual 450ppm - 700ppm readings.
The veg is in an open space the finishing room is 3.5’ x 4.5 ft space- i was very careful to seal up the flowering room so no light leaks- the c02 monitor has 2 small green led’s that I should probably tape over but that would be the only light source during dark periods.
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Ding ding ding

Tape over any/all light.

Before you posted this I was gonna suggest standing in flower room with lights off. Still a good idea though.
 
Killaki

Killaki

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Livingblacksoil said:
Ding ding ding

Tape over any/all light.

Before you posted this I was gonna suggest standing in flower room with lights off. Still a good idea though.
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I guess maybe but not in my experience. My spaces are pretty sealed but I know for a fact some light was getting into some of my grows in the past.
Initially I remember trying to seal it all out but over time and changes in grows i changed my thinking a little. I had seen an interesting point brought up about moonlight, and knowing how light it can be during a full moon, I had an epiphany of sorts.
While I still try to make sure my light leaks are minimized, I don't obsess over tiny holes or gaps like I used to. I also don't get much natural light in my house so this may be a factor but I've seriously have never had a herm, never had my plants reveg, or anything else that led me to believe they were stressing from light leaks.
My rule of thumb is if it doesn't cast any sort of visible light onto the plants it's probably fine, even if you can see it from the inside looking out.
I understand this topic is highly debated amongst growers but for me it's fairly well settled.
 
Crumpetlicker

Crumpetlicker

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bk78 said:
Sounds like it’s a YOU issue here and not the genetics :D
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Exactly what are you trying to say?
No hermies here, I employ quality seed only.
It seemed to me that alot of the responses to the OP were just rote, no real thinking just a knee-jerk response.
Rip it out and start again. Very wasteful
Kind of what is wrong with humanity in many ways IMO.
It's his first grow!
And remember 'There is something to be learned in every human experience.' Lou Reed :D

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Bud man 43

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Crumpetlicker said:
I can't be bothered trying to disentangle that statement.
Exactly what are you trying to say?
I need an interpreter to help me with youthful bombast.
No hermies here I use quality seed only and like I said I was just trying to help.
It seemed to me that alot of the responses to the OP where just rote, no real thinking just a knee jerk response.
Rip it out and start again. Very wasteful
Kind of what is wrong with humanity in many ways IMO.

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Crumpetlicker said:
I can't be bothered trying to disentangle that statement.
Exactly what are you trying to say?
I need an interpreter to help me with youthful bombast.
No hermies here I use quality seed only and like I said I was just trying to help.
It seemed to me that alot of the responses to the OP where just rote, no real thinking just a knee jerk response.
Rip it out and start again. Very wasteful
Kind of what is wrong with humanity in many ways IMO.

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He may be referring to my statement that I was wondering if I did something wrong or if it was just seed genetics.
I am thinking it was my mistake as these are 3 different varieties.
I was also reflecting a bit and I believe my biggest mistake was waiting to lollipop until week 2 in 12/12. I think I should have done it before going 12/12 to help with stress.
Second was probably not covering the LED indicator lights on the co2 monitor- done now.
Third was not flushing after every nutrient application- I would go 2 or 3 then flush.
I did have some light stress early on ( leaf spotting) when I had the lights too close but I fixed that early on and got it dialed in.
My guess is the pruning did it.
I am definitely encouraged by how they developed- they are quite sticky and definitely had good trichomes forming.
 
Crumpetlicker

Crumpetlicker

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Better luck with your next effort Budman. Its a really fun hobby and good for the soul.
It also translates into the vegetable garden.
I am being a bit defensive I know but when I see group think in action I have to say something.
All the best Budman.
 
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