Pandemic 2020

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C. Nesbitt

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Oh there may be a percentage of the population that covid may not affect through a genetic difference, I just believe they are a minority.
That would not be surprising. I recall reading an article about HIV resistance in a percentage of people tied to a genetic difference. That same genetic difference was theorized to also confer immunity to bubonic plague.
 

captainmorgan

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Yes, there is even a difference in fatality rates by sex, 63% are men and 37% are women, and another difference by blood type. The sex difference is probably tied to the immune system, females have a different immune system because of child birth, the body usually attacks foreign DNA but in pregnancy it accepts and protects it.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Oh there may be a percentage of the population that covid may not affect through a genetic difference, I just believe they are a minority.
it may be wishful thinking on my part, but i suspect i may be one of those people...i've been exposed so many times i can't even count them anymore, and still haven't had more than a very light cold in the past two years...i have been vaccinated for quite a while, but people would come to work infected, wouldn't tell anyone, they'd come to work and talk about how their kids or spouses or w/e had it, and here they are, to pass it along, and i walk among 14,000,000 ( yes, 14,000,000) tourist a year that come here...i HAVE been exposed, and if i got it, it was completely asymptomatic..
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Go fund me up to 6.2 mil :( ...... the worlds gone mad.
no, that's fine, that's 6.2 mill that a republican piece of shit won't get their hands on and use to further damage our country...that's one of the few good things trump is doing, the magats are doing, and antivaxxers are doing, they're all taking donations and keeping that money out of the hands of the republican party...
oh, wait, this is going on in Canada, isn't it? well, i'm sure you have at least a few assholes that won't be getting their hands on that money.
 

captainmorgan

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Dr's and nurses are saying hospitals are running out of basic supplies like syringes and oxygen lines not just beds and meds. Health care is basically shut down and the ER without supplies is the only option.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/i-m-willing-to-die-nc-man-refuses-life-saving-kidney-transplant-over-vaccine-requirement/20106699/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/denial-of-heart-transplant-to-unvaccinated-patient-has-anti-vaxx-community-up-in-arms/vi-AAThOJw

first, FUCK BOTH OF THESE FUCKING MORONS...they are stupid and made their choices.
second, hospitals have long had rules you had to follow, and conditions you had to meet to be eligible for an organ transplant. why on earth would they suspend those rules and conditions now? why shouldn't they be allowed to make their own rules? and why would they waste a rare and valuable human organ on a fucktard dumbass who refuses to protect themselves, when they have multiple people who can use that organ, and many who have no problems following the rules?
rules, mind you, that are in place for exactly this reason, so that rare and valuable medical resourcs aren't wasted on people who don't take the situation seriously.
so, in summary, FUCK BOTH OF THESE FUCKING MORONS, AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T FUCKING LIKE IT.
thank you
 

CunningCanuk

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Sure doesn’t seem mild :o! Think I’ll bunker down a bit longer ........ not that that’s a struggle, I don’t like people much lol.
Unfortunately our provincial government has given up the fight. Top doctors in the health ministry say we should learn to live with Covid, so buckle up.

I’d go back to getting groceries delivered if my daughter wasn’t in school.
 

injinji

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A local update. My aunt and most of her kids and grandkids have it. She hasn't had the vaccine and when we talked to her this morning, she couldn't stop coughing. (she has stayed home for over a year, so someone brought it to her)

Sister's father in law has it. He has had the jab, but was on death's door anyway, so we are really worried for him. Sister spent a few minutes with him two days ago, and then she spent time around me. I'm hoping not enough time had passed for her to be positive.
 

Budley Doright

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Unfortunately our provincial government has given up the fight. Top doctors in the health ministry say we should learn to live with Covid, so buckle up.

I’d go back to getting groceries delivered if my daughter wasn’t in school.
I hear you. Still get groceries but that’s about it. My girlfriend is a hairdresser so I’m guessing I have been/going to be, exposed at some point. It is what it is at this point. I’m just going to as careful as I can and take precautions to limit others as much as possible re wear mask, disinfect Hands and cart when entering stores, the stuff everyone who actually cares about others and themselves should do.
 

Budley Doright

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A local update. My aunt and most of her kids and grandkids have it. She hasn't had the vaccine and when we talked to her this morning, she couldn't stop coughing. (she has stayed home for over a year, so someone brought it to her)

Sister's father in law has it. He has had the jab, but was on death's door anyway, so we are really worried for him. Sister spent a few minutes with him two days ago, and then she spent time around me. I'm hoping not enough time had passed for her to be positive.
I’m thinking it’s a dice roll re a positive results. I’ve had two couples close to me where only one has been infected. Both outcomes were mild as well. I’ve also heard from people I know that felt horrible but recovered within a few days (all fully vaxxed). Wish you the best :).
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Dr's and nurses are saying hospitals are running out of basic supplies like syringes and oxygen lines not just beds and meds. Health care is basically shut down and the ER without supplies is the only option.
Guess what? There is a global shortage of supplies, as hospitals are overwhelmed everywhere and it is the unvaxxed seriously ill who are gobbling up most of the supplies. Omicron circled the globe in a couple of weeks and everyone has been hit at once. The sad part about it is this time it didn't have to be that way, we have vaccines and most of the hospitalized are unvaxxed and they tend to stay there longer and need more treatment.
 

captainmorgan

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It seems obvious the politicians are not listening to the scientists about the let it rip strategy, I don't remember seeing a single one saying it was a good strategy, quite the opposite. Makes you wonder what they are thinking, at least the ones that aren't trying to bring down democracy. Are the economies around the world nearing collapse? Are health care systems around the globe nearing collapse? Are governments worried about citizens turning on them? Seems obvious to me that covid doesn't have lasting natural immunity and neither do the current vaccines so lasting herd immunity is a fairy tale. Omicron has shattered any hope of even short term herd immunity with scientists announcing that you can catch omicron BA1 recover and catch omicron BA2 a few weeks later. Let it rip was decided upon before they new omicron broke the whole herd immunity thing. It must have been a hail mary strategy based on the false hope of herd immunity along with the it's mild lie, it's only mild if you're vaccinated compared to not. Omicrons severity is more like the original variant and is milder than delta but not mild in any general sense. Were they hoping that with omicron being so infectious and wrongly believing it was mild along with the herd immunity myth took a chance that looks like it may backfire spectacularly. They must have thought it would wash over the population with less sickness and death and they could finally reach herd immunity despite the antivaxers. At this point the antivaxers are not keeping us from herd immunity because immunity doesn't last, but they will collapse the health care system with their stupidity and maybe the economy too. The only thing that will get us out of this downward spiral is a new vaccine that takes a different approach and gives longer immunity, if it's even possible with our current level of knowledge and tech.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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It seems obvious the politicians are not listening to the scientists about the let it rip strategy, I don't remember seeing a single one saying it was a good strategy, quite the opposite. Makes you wonder what they are thinking, at least the ones that aren't trying to bring down democracy. Are the economies around the world nearing collapse? Are health care systems around the globe nearing collapse? Are governments worried about citizens turning on them? Seems obvious to me that covid doesn't have lasting natural immunity and neither do the current vaccines so lasting herd immunity is a fairy tale. Omicron has shattered any hope of even short term herd immunity with scientists announcing that you can catch omicron BA1 recover and catch omicron BA2 a few weeks later. Let it rip was decided upon before they new omicron broke the whole herd immunity thing. It must have been a hail mary strategy based on the false hope of herd immunity along with the it's mild lie, it's only mild if you're vaccinated compared to not. Omicrons severity is more like the original variant and is milder than delta but not mild in any general sense. Were they hoping that with omicron being so infectious and wrongly believing it was mild along with the herd immunity myth took a chance that looks like it may backfire spectacularly. They must have thought it would wash over the population with less sickness and death and they could finally reach herd immunity despite the antivaxers. At this point the antivaxers are not keeping us from herd immunity because immunity doesn't last, but they will collapse the health care system with their stupidity and maybe the economy too. The only thing that will get us out of this downward spiral is a new vaccine that takes a different approach and gives longer immunity, if it's even possible with our current level of knowledge and tech.
there have been countless outbreaks before this, and the world didn't curl up and go away....and it won't this time.
while i think it may be far from over, corona won't wipe out the world population, this isn't captain trips from the stand, it's a mutated form of the virus that causes the common cold and the flu...this mutation wasn't quite as beneficial as they thought it was, but it's still "milder" than delta was, and there is still just as good a chance that the next variant will indeed be the herd immunity spreader we've all been hoping for. there's a much better chance of it mutating into something less harmful than into something more harmful, but it may take it a while to get there, and if it mauls unvaccinated people getting there, so much the better as far as i'm concerned
 

captainmorgan

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I've never said it was the end of mankind, just that this is going to kill and maim a lot more people than they are saying but you keep clinging to your herd immunity that will never happen. And not all viruses get milder over time, covid-19 has gotten worse with every major variant until omicron.


 

mooray

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https://www.wral.com/coronavirus/i-m-willing-to-die-nc-man-refuses-life-saving-kidney-transplant-over-vaccine-requirement/20106699/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/denial-of-heart-transplant-to-unvaccinated-patient-has-anti-vaxx-community-up-in-arms/vi-AAThOJw

first, FUCK BOTH OF THESE FUCKING MORONS...they are stupid and made their choices.
second, hospitals have long had rules you had to follow, and conditions you had to meet to be eligible for an organ transplant. why on earth would they suspend those rules and conditions now? why shouldn't they be allowed to make their own rules? and why would they waste a rare and valuable human organ on a fucktard dumbass who refuses to protect themselves, when they have multiple people who can use that organ, and many who have no problems following the rules?
rules, mind you, that are in place for exactly this reason, so that rare and valuable medical resourcs aren't wasted on people who don't take the situation seriously.
so, in summary, FUCK BOTH OF THESE FUCKING MORONS, AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T FUCKING LIKE IT.
thank you
I'm all for personal accountability, but all these people are really guilty of is being afraid and dumb. Sad for them, but really fuck the predators that exploit it, whom are probably vaccinated.
 
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