Why wouls it not be? F4 just means its the forth generation without back crossing as far as i know
I heard somewhere down the line the pollen goes sterile.
hmm I have NEVER heard that and dont believe that at all. I would not worry if I was you. Some bad info
Wouldn’t the sterility component be what makes the females sexually stable? That’s how I took it.
Northeastskier
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Use a 35mm film case and store it in a small container filled with rice.
mudballs
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Man that took me a minute to grasp wth you meant.
Self sterility in plants
Self sterility in plants
I need to read before i can talk about this
mudballs
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Damn dude that's deep stuff, you don't need to know that shit to play with these plants.
We dont have a species that's SI so...cannabis is SC.
For the 230 families for which breeding system information was available, 66 families were exclusively found to have species expressing SC, and 164 families were found to have at least one member with SS. In total, of the 5609 species surveyed, 3285 were found to have SC and 2324 species SS or SI, suggesting that an estimated 59 % of hermaphroditic angiosperm taxa are SC
SS(self sterility) is evolutionary shit...mechanisms put in place millinia ago and you cant affect it or use it without a genome lab in ur pocket.
We dont have a species that's SI so...cannabis is SC.
For the 230 families for which breeding system information was available, 66 families were exclusively found to have species expressing SC, and 164 families were found to have at least one member with SS. In total, of the 5609 species surveyed, 3285 were found to have SC and 2324 species SS or SI, suggesting that an estimated 59 % of hermaphroditic angiosperm taxa are SC
SS(self sterility) is evolutionary shit...mechanisms put in place millinia ago and you cant affect it or use it without a genome lab in ur pocket.
Just look at some of the work out there. Jaws has a Banana Kush worked to F10.
Im growing his FPOG right now which is his F4 and I got a male that will drop pollen in the next few days I will use to make F5s. Only thiing is that you can go too far with the line and breed out traits. You have to select carefully and obviously only select non hermies for pollen or to receive pollen.
Wastei
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I think you need to read up on selective breeding history. It took decades and many generations before anything got stable under artificial lighting.
It's still very hard to get landraces stable and everything needs to be hybridized to be of any use indoors.
xtsho
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You heard wrong. Sounds like the kind of incorrect false information you'd find on youtube.
Perhaps
I was talking about using landraces for breeding and that the pollen isnt sterile. Look at how much Bodhi puts out with landraces. And not everything is about growing indoors, the discussion is about if plants eventually have steryl pollen after too many generations, which is not the case.
I also specifically mentioned to NOT select anything that herms...sooo plants dont become sterile after whatever many generations, I would think we can agree on that point, no?
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Are you saying if a plant herms then the pollen becomes sterile down the line doing inbreeding?