Gmo is garlic, mushroom, onion
Seems good man. Did you have original meatbreath stock? But I'm just not confident it's what I'm looking for. Meatbreath smells similar to every other polyhybrid of breath/gelato/pie/cake/runtz/zkittles that's been outcrossed to a cookie cut to me. I havent smelled true meat from it ever, not like you do in some of these landrace chemovars from paki, afghanistan, etc. I got these bags before meatbreath existed im pretty sure. Gromer's gear is a little ambiguous too. There isn't enough stability or well thought out crossing in his lines to warrant me going for meatbreath crosses on auction and getting something that kind of smells like meat, I guess. Ive reacted that way every time I've seen meatbreath lol it really is more of a BBQ meat if any meat at all to my nose. Like I was mentioned, Pie Face by archive had t h e smell.
I've heard that before, it's not raunchy or gross just savory. It's definitely in the realm of possible smells cannabis can produce. A lot of Afghanicas I've smelled have harsh phenol chemical smells, rotting meat, dead bugs. Cooked meat (chicken fingers, summer sausage). All stemming mainly from thiols and esters. The real gmo cut to me smells like deem. Not that close to what I'm describing. Chem cookies from mamiko is def thiol heavy, I get onion and sautéed mushroom a lot from theirs. But it's not super meaty at all. The meaty gas from gelato/forum/dosi is still far off but closer to the chicken noodle/beef broth notes. Pie face had the smell, but I want to find the gene pool or exaxt chemovar it stems from if it's clone only. Appreciate it though
When I smell it in cannabis it's very full and robust, fills the nose with sweet/savory meat smells. A friend of mine has always said it has more of a chicken finger/chicken noodle soup smell but I also get deep beef notes. How would you describe the smell of beef liver? It genuinely could be something like that.
I will say to you the talk about polyhibrid, breeder vs pollen chuck is big bullshit for me, plenty of pollen chuckers made some fire strain, as long as it fire , I'm good
Beef liver smells thick and iron'y not sweet. Muscle stores more sugar than the organs. So the smell of red meat is very different than liver. Chicken liver also smells different than beef liver. Calves has a weaker smell of cow liver.
They called it gmo because of the way it grows, crazy yields and hash returns, skunkmasterflex was saying the garlic mushroom onion thing came later
It's just that there's a way higher chance of getting something good from a...good...gene pool. Instead of a first filial generation of offspring that the breeder didn't even assess. Traits weren't selected. You just buy a 15 pack and take a male to a fem and sell those and that's just okay to you? That isn't even quantifiable work. If it's created just to sell then fuck it. I want real meds. If it's bullshit then you can stay rocking with Muddy, watered down f1 s1 polyhybrid garbage. I'll keep buying gene pools that were bred for a reason
IBL F7 that's been worked purposefully for effects and preservation over the course of a decade or some random F1 gelato gmo reversal some dude made in his basement. What's gonna be more stable. I'll tell you right now, one of the pools will throw balls in early flower and one will give you nothing but consistent vigor. Maybe you'll find one chemovar in 500 seeds that holds a candle to a keeper from 5 seeds of a reg landrace ibl.
Dead bugs? WTF
It's not exactly pleasant but im a fan of the obscure, raunchy, stomach churning profiles from cannabis. I forget who it was, maybe Dr green sky, but he told me his jskar and another afghan x paki cross he bred had legitimate poop notes. That's intriguing to me. Ahaha like the fact that cannabis can create these aromas is incredible
I'm all about the baby poop terps!
The things is I had more fire from pollen chuckers then certified breeder and , fireballs from @genuity is my top 1 for loud, she put new carbon filter on knee!! and fireballs is still available at breeders boutique, he's now doing is own strain but all his pollen chuck he made are still closely kept by a lot of fellow grower on rollitup look the thread chucker's paradise
Technically, true F1 hybrids will have more vigor than inbred lines. Hybrid vigor vs inbreeding depression.
Going to f7 is a waste imo (I love too much my pheno hunt) and like u said inbreeding depression gonna happen too
I wouldn’t call it a waste when it’s done right. I think the fact that nearly every production facility grows from clone means there is less emphasis on IBL seeds that produce a lot of similar plants and more interest in finding true outlier plants out of hundreds and having exclusivity.
Also true but time consuming and you need space and money also , I spoke with shantibaba back in time and it take years of breeding to stabilize a strain like you want depend on your luck
It's not all about how fire one keeper pheno is. When I'm buying 10 seeds a want a guaranteed keeper. Fire + fire doesn't always = good cannabis. I prefer breeders using punnet squares for example to match specific parents up in order to have the highest change of receiving those desirable traits in the offspring. YES I respect hype chemovars, the good ones, but not their gene pools as a whole !! I can't explain it any more in depth. The industry is ran by corporate fat cats who don't even smoke and the consumer market is full of potheads. I'm not surprised hype thats bred for a flashy name and bag appeal sells the most. I just prefer MY genes that I grow to be worked on and turned into a finished product. Im not buying a clone, but a piece of the gene pool. F1 can be good, if you want wider variance and still have baseline acceptable vigor and no herms. It just depends. F2 can be good, f3 can be good and so on. It's just up to the discretion of the breeder to decide which filial generation is best. And a lot don't even take it to the second generation to even see if it's a better gene pool or more like what they invisioned for the cross. I realize earlier generations can be better and produce a better plant. But hype wave breeders don't think about all of that, in fact they don't think about any of it. Do you know how easy it is to buy two clones and reverse one to the other? That's uninspired and weak as fuck. That's not quantifiable breeding to me, and I have no respect for the process unless it's for preservation. Posting a list of 10 strains they bought just to hit with reversed pollen and releasing first filial generation fems without testing. That's how you get disappointed with a shit 250 dollar pack of hermaphrodite plants. Enjoy. I won't fight you on this man, for real, enjoy your guavabananatangielato mint cake. I'm gonna grow some shit that smells like spiced Columbian black coffee, lime, and rosewater. Because those are the profiles you're missing out on just following the wave. Cannabis is so much bigger than cookie fam and seedjunky dude
Once you reach f6 you should take it back to the original f1 male or fem to make an IBL. You start to regress at f7 and beyond. I've seen IBL's still labeled F7 though. Like from ACE seeds. What is worked and unworked is a fine line and depends on the starting chemovar obviously. All im trying to say is, how do people not realize what's lazy work and what was bred with you, the grower, in mind. That's all I'm tryna say, don't want to derail things by having each sentence picked haha. I just want to find my cut, I've been looking for this plant for years. People keep telling me its neem oil. Thats getting old. I've smelled it in several different varieties. Cannabis can have meat smells. Idk why it's so hard.
