bamboofarmer
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NPK too. Its a travesty.
I have a mate that is a Chemist. We have discussed at length the idea of making a cheap calmag type product for use at home. He agreed with the concept of a 2:1 cal to mag ratio. I have seen some light cal def in a couple of plants in my current run. Next time I am going to give 10ml of powdered Calcium Nitrate with 5ml of Epsom Salt, in 5L of water, along with my regular nutrient, once a week from week two of flower, just as a precautionary measure.In the human body calcium is properly uptaken when magnesium is present in proper levels. Supposed to be a 2/1 ratio of cal to mag.
I dont know if it is the same for plants. I just grow weed and then smoke it or turn it into hash.
have him make some calcium chloride. cutting edge solutions makes a ca only and a ca/mg product. why add more n and mg if all you need is ca?I have a mate that is a Chemist. We have discussed at length the idea of making a cheap calmag type product for use at home. He agreed with the concept of a 2:1 cal to mag ratio. I have seen some light cal def in a couple of plants in my current run. Next time I am going to give 10ml of powdered Calcium Nitrate with 5ml of Epsom Salt, in 5L of water, along with my regular nutrient, once a week from week two of flower, just as a precautionary measure.
For the price of a bottle of prepared CalMag I should be able to make my own Calmag for years.
Your current nutrient line doesn't contain Calcium or Magnesium? Your tap water doesn't either?I have a mate that is a Chemist. We have discussed at length the idea of making a cheap calmag type product for use at home. He agreed with the concept of a 2:1 cal to mag ratio. I have seen some light cal def in a couple of plants in my current run. Next time I am going to give 10ml of powdered Calcium Nitrate with 5ml of Epsom Salt, in 5L of water, along with my regular nutrient, once a week from week two of flower, just as a precautionary measure.
For the price of a bottle of prepared CalMag I should be able to make my own Calmag for years.
He did suggest using food grade Calcium Chloride it is readily available in a water soluble form on Amazon. I was worried about the extra N too. I might give Calcium Chloride a go instead. I might yet do nothing as I am not convinced that my very slight Ca def isn't being caused by another factor, i.e too much Potassium, I have been using organic PK48 as a booster. My mate took some for analysis and at the given concentration he reckons it is actually NPK 4-8-16, even though the label suggests it is NPK 0-4-8. So at 2ml per Litre, along with my base nutrient I have been giving them NPK 6-9.5-19. It is a miracle that they didn't burn TBH. I will never believe "cannabis feed charts ever again". I was stupid to use it TBH, I had all of this dialled in until I changed my lights.have him make some calcium chloride. cutting edge solutions makes a ca only and a ca/mg product. why add more n and mg if all you need is ca?
This is my problem, my nutrients should contain plenty of Ca, it is made from calcified seaweed. I always add a little Epsom Salt anyway, 1ml per litre, every other feed. Which is why I am convinced it is being locked out due to over feeding on my part.Your current nutrient line doesn't contain Calcium or Magnesium? Your tap water doesn't either?
Too much Mg locks out Ca. Cut back off the Epsom.This is my problem, my nutrients should contain plenty of Ca, it is made from calcified seaweed. I always add a little Epsom Salt anyway, 1ml per litre, every other feed. Which is why I am convinced it is being locked out due to over feeding on my part.
My tap water is 18mg Ca per litre, or 45 ppm, which I am led to believe is fuck all.
what is proper ca;mg ratio you reckon?Too much Mg locks out Ca. Cut back on the Epsom.
I'm not sure exactly. I've heard mixed stuff. But it looks like 3:1 is the average Ca:Mg ratio I see. My well water has Ca in it so I'm careful about adding certain dry amendments. No gypsum or OSF, except rarely when I add some Craft Blend that has that stuff in it. But I use Craft Blend rarely since it has so much Ca.what is proper ca;mg ratio you reckon?
I have. Next grow I am just going to go with my base nutes and see how it goes. I have a real suspicion that it has all been caused by me.Too much Mg locks out Ca. Cut back on the Epsom.
You're convinced you already have more than enough Ca and Mg and yet you want to add more?This is my problem, my nutrients should contain plenty of Ca, it is made from calcified seaweed. I always add a little Epsom Salt anyway, 1ml per litre, every other feed. Which is why I am convinced it is being locked out due to over feeding on my part.
My tap water is 18mg Ca per litre, or 45 ppm, which I am led to believe is fuck all.
Next time I am going to give 10ml of powdered Calcium Nitrate with 5ml of Epsom Salt, in 5L of water, along with my regular nutrient, once a week from week two of flower, just as a precautionary measure.
magcal would be more uniqueI'm naming my next pollen chuck CALMAG
What nutrients do u use in hydro?I've never once used calmag in decades of growing. That includes soil, hydro, coco, peat, etc... I don't get calcium or magnesium deficiencies because I feed the plants what they need. And not with a dozen bottles either. Just a simple inexpensive nutrient that contains what the plant needs. There are many of them out there.
I always get a chuckle when I see growers paying expensive prices for fancy nutrients that don't contain enough Ca or Mg and are using calmag. The marketing geniuses behind many of the overpriced nutrients could sell cat piss as lemonade and have people lined up around the block waiting to get a drink. And they'd come back for more.
I've used this for years with tap water. I'm using GH MaxiBloom right now with plants in coco. No calmag and no Ca or Mg deficiencies.What nutrients do u use in hydro?
TBH I don't know which way to go. I only had Ca def in 2 out of 9 plants.You're convinced you already have more than enough Ca and Mg and yet you want to add more?
Plants don't need massive amounts of Ca and Mg. If your nutrients already contain them then it's not an issue of insufficient amounts given. It's a lockout issue and adding more is only going to worsen the problem.TBH I don't know which way to go. I only had Ca def in 2 out of 9 plants.
I suspect K.Plants don't need massive amounts of Ca and Mg. If your nutrients already contain them then it's not an issue of insufficient amounts given. It's a lockout issue and adding more is only going to worsen the problem.
An excess of magnesium or potassium can cause lockout as well as pH issues.