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Hollatchaboy

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Respectfully, to everyone involved in this post, I believe there is a tremendous miscommunication here.

OP has the same problem I have in life. I ask questions when I try to clarify information; unfortunately, asking questions can often be perceived as insubordination and insults. Silly as that sounds, that is the fact of the matter. I learn by asking questions. Others learn by doing, some by hearing. We all "learn" in different ways.

I don't believe the OP is "not listening to advice", but is seeking clarification.

I'm a little bummed that the OP is being met with such antagonistic responses; I've answered the most basic questions on here until I'm blue in the face and I have never been antagonistic, sarcastic, or cruel to anyone. This thread is just making me sad, because I truly expected more helpful responses from some of you guys. I am genuinely disappointed.




I feel people in here are reading your replies the wrong way, friend.

Look, he even says "I am lost". He is asking for clarification, not being a smart ass.

How could a beginner possibly be able to identify deficiencies like we all can? We've been growing for how long compared to OP? Of course he doesn't know! Stop busting his balls. Either answer the questions, or show some class and stay quiet.

If you have nothing productive to say, do not say it at all.

You guys see someone being antagonistic, I see someone just trying to ask questions to gain clarification.

Or, perhaps I'm the naive one here.




We do need to tell him, that is why he is here. He needs help, and pretty much no one here is giving him any help, just sarcasm and trolling. Did you know what deficiencies you had during your first grow? Of course OP doesn't know what deficiencies he has, how could he possibly know? Even if he did a Google search, he still won't know for sure, because he doesn't have the experience.

People learn in different ways. Respectfully, "your plants are telling you" is a vague statement to someone new with no experience. Try not to view OP as antagonistic, but curious and gaining clarification. I'm not trying to be a dick here either, just making an observation.

Especially you, Holla, I'd never dog on someone that had a Randy Rhoads icon.

I'm not trying to be antagonistic here either; simply trying to provide some of the people in this thread with a different perspective on things.

Why don't we just smoke some weed, and try to help this guy out? Maybe some day, he'll be helping the new people himself!

Regards.
Look, I'm not trying to be a dick either. I too, have that problem. Look thru my posts. I'm constantly asking dumb ass questions. Nobody wants to help the OP, because the same situation, same questions, are asked daily on here. Most with the same outcome, OP not wanting to listen to why it's bad, because they saw a video of Mr Canucks doing it, and figure, "the people trying to help, and tell me it's not possible, must be wrong. Mr Canucks grows such big, beautiful buds! "(Not)

It's has gotten to be like a before harvest, flushing question. You can't tell me you haven't seen people get torn up by asking that question.

And just so you know, I got the same treatment by some, when I first came on here, asking why my leaves kept turning yellow. Some helped, most did not, but I never took it personally, and eventually I learned. So will the OP. Just might take him a lil longer. Lol
 

LeastExpectedGrower

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Respectfully, to everyone involved in this post, I believe there is a tremendous miscommunication here.

OP has the same problem I have in life. I ask questions when I try to clarify information; unfortunately, asking questions can often be perceived as insubordination and insults. Silly as that sounds, that is the fact of the matter. I learn by asking questions. Others learn by doing, some by hearing. We all "learn" in different ways.

I don't believe the OP is "not listening to advice", but is seeking clarification.

I'm a little bummed that the OP is being met with such antagonistic responses; I've answered the most basic questions on here until I'm blue in the face and I have never been antagonistic, sarcastic, or cruel to anyone. This thread is just making me sad, because I truly expected more helpful responses from some of you guys. I am genuinely disappointed.




I feel people in here are reading your replies the wrong way, friend.

Look, he even says "I am lost". He is asking for clarification, not being a smart ass.

How could a beginner possibly be able to identify deficiencies like we all can? We've been growing for how long compared to OP? Of course he doesn't know! Stop busting his balls. Either answer the questions, or show some class and stay quiet.

If you have nothing productive to say, do not say it at all.

You guys see someone being antagonistic, I see someone just trying to ask questions to gain clarification.

Or, perhaps I'm the naive one here.




We do need to tell him, that is why he is here. He needs help, and pretty much no one here is giving him any help, just sarcasm and trolling. Did you know what deficiencies you had during your first grow? Of course OP doesn't know what deficiencies he has, how could he possibly know? Even if he did a Google search, he still won't know for sure, because he doesn't have the experience.

People learn in different ways. Respectfully, "your plants are telling you" is a vague statement to someone new with no experience. Try not to view OP as antagonistic, but curious and gaining clarification. I'm not trying to be a dick here either, just making an observation.

Especially you, Holla, I'd never dog on someone that had a Randy Rhoads icon.

I'm not trying to be antagonistic here either; simply trying to provide some of the people in this thread with a different perspective on things.

Why don't we just smoke some weed, and try to help this guy out? Maybe some day, he'll be helping the new people himself!

Regards.
Sure totally questioning rather than rejecting answers from knowledgeable posters.

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UpInSmoke420$24

Well-Known Member
Respectfully, to everyone involved in this post, I believe there is a tremendous miscommunication here.

OP has the same problem I have in life. I ask questions when I try to clarify information; unfortunately, asking questions can often be perceived as insubordination and insults. Silly as that sounds, that is the fact of the matter. I learn by asking questions. Others learn by doing, some by hearing. We all "learn" in different ways.

I don't believe the OP is "not listening to advice", but is seeking clarification.

I'm a little bummed that the OP is being met with such antagonistic responses; I've answered the most basic questions on here until I'm blue in the face and I have never been antagonistic, sarcastic, or cruel to anyone. This thread is just making me sad, because I truly expected more helpful responses from some of you guys. I am genuinely disappointed.




I feel people in here are reading your replies the wrong way, friend.

Look, he even says "I am lost". He is asking for clarification, not being a smart ass.

How could a beginner possibly be able to identify deficiencies like we all can? We've been growing for how long compared to OP? Of course he doesn't know! Stop busting his balls. Either answer the questions, or show some class and stay quiet.

If you have nothing productive to say, do not say it at all.

You guys see someone being antagonistic, I see someone just trying to ask questions to gain clarification.

Or, perhaps I'm the naive one here.




We do need to tell him, that is why he is here. He needs help, and pretty much no one here is giving him any help, just sarcasm and trolling. Did you know what deficiencies you had during your first grow? Of course OP doesn't know what deficiencies he has, how could he possibly know? Even if he did a Google search, he still won't know for sure, because he doesn't have the experience.

People learn in different ways. Respectfully, "your plants are telling you" is a vague statement to someone new with no experience. Try not to view OP as antagonistic, but curious and gaining clarification. I'm not trying to be a dick here either, just making an observation.

Especially you, Holla, I'd never dog on someone that had a Randy Rhoads icon.

I'm not trying to be antagonistic here either; simply trying to provide some of the people in this thread with a different perspective on things.

Why don't we just smoke some weed, and try to help this guy out? Maybe some day, he'll be helping the new people himself!

Regards.
You know what...THANK YOU FOR THAT. That is exactly what im doing. Its not that I am not listening to advice, but I am challenging what your saying just like I want people to do to me. I want people to tell me there opinion, but everyone is so stuck on there own way of growing that they shoe away anyone that ask questions. I am very smart, and probably at the end of this will end up growing more and better weed than any of you. Because I am open minded and asking questions. Its sad how argumentative people on this site are. Like I said, all this shit talk, but if the way I did it DIDN'T WORK then my plants would of died and I would of ended up with nothing. BUT, I did it this same way and EVERY PLANT hit 20 % or higher in testing. SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW IT IS NOT A WAY OF GROWING. Because I have the proof that it works. I have 250 grams from a 200 watt light of some fuckin fire. SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW IT IS WRONG. It may not be YOUR WAY or the best way, but it does work. So to tell people it doesn't work is actually giving false information
 

UpInSmoke420$24

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I am not rejecting anything. Im challenging you. Ask 100 growers if 77 is high enough day time temp and your will have half yes and half no. Because everyone has opinions. But in reality, you can grow in 77 degrees and get good weed. I did it. So if I personally did it, and your telling me I can't, then I am going to reject your anwser.
 

UpInSmoke420$24

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Like bro...Some people live in very cold climates. I can't possibly get past 77 so thats what I have to work with. And alot of people are in the same boat and make it work. Type anywhere what the ideal temp for cannabis and your get in the range of 70 to 85. WOW PEOPLE HERE ARE BRUTAL
 

twentyeight.threefive

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You know what...THANK YOU FOR THAT. That is exactly what im doing. Its not that I am not listening to advice, but I am challenging what your saying just like I want people to do to me. I want people to tell me there opinion, but everyone is so stuck on there own way of growing that they shoe away anyone that ask questions. I am very smart, and probably at the end of this will end up growing more and better weed than any of you. Because I am open minded and asking questions. Its sad how argumentative people on this site are. Like I said, all this shit talk, but if the way I did it DIDN'T WORK then my plants would of died and I would of ended up with nothing. BUT, I did it this same way and EVERY PLANT hit 20 % or higher in testing. SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW IT IS NOT A WAY OF GROWING. Because I have the proof that it works. I have 250 grams from a 200 watt light of some fuckin fire. SO PLEASE TELL ME HOW IT IS WRONG. It may not be YOUR WAY or the best way, but it does work. So to tell people it doesn't work is actually giving false information
It's your grow and your plants. People are just trying to tell you that if you are using coco there are better ways to using it.

I don't think anyone is saying you can't do it that way or you won't harvest anything from it. But the method is subpar for the medium you are using, and it's clear from the pictures you've shown.
 

Hollatchaboy

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I am not rejecting anything. Im challenging you. Ask 100 growers if 77 is high enough day time temp and your will have half yes and half no. Because everyone has opinions. But in reality, you can grow in 77 degrees and get good weed. I did it. So if I personally did it, and your telling me I can't, then I am going to reject your anwser.
It's not that you can't grow in 77°. Temperature is one of the limiting factors. 77 ° is a lil low for optimum growth. I have moms vegging at 73° daytime temps. They're small and aren't growing very fast, because it's not optimal conditions.
 

UpInSmoke420$24

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It's your grow and your plants. People are just trying to tell you that if you are using coco there are better ways to using it.

I don't think anyone is saying you can't do it that way or you won't harvest anything from it. But the method is subpar for the medium you are using, and it's clear from the pictures you've shown.
I completely understand that. What I want to know. Is if everyone is sitting here and ragging on the way I grow, and I ask a question, no one anwsers...they just talk shit. Its crazy. And the shit they talk has not one piece of valuable info or facts. Like if there is deficiency in the pics...then what deficiency is it and why is it happening. Thats why im asking. That way I can try to come up with a way to fix it. Now like I said, I agree that the way I am doing it is not ideal in coco, but the thing is, I am having the exact same problems in soil. So I am trying to figure out what deficiencies there are and what caused them. Not, hey that grow is up in smoke. Like screw you bro, my last grow went up in smoke into my lungs with the 20 plus thc and close to 2 percent terps. Probably better weed than you ever pulled in your life. Look, now I am becoming one of these assholes
 

UpInSmoke420$24

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As a grower, I would want to help people. Not shoe them away and make it so they don't want to bother growing anymore. Horrible I can see such disgusting behavior from the people I actually look up too
 

twentyeight.threefive

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I completely understand that. What I want to know. Is if everyone is sitting here and ragging on the way I grow, and I ask a question, no one anwsers...they just talk shit. Its crazy. And the shit they talk has not one piece of valuable info or facts. Like if there is deficiency in the pics...then what deficiency is it and why is it happening. Thats why im asking. That way I can try to come up with a way to fix it. Now like I said, I agree that the way I am doing it is not ideal in coco, but the thing is, I am having the exact same problems in soil. So I am trying to figure out what deficiencies there are and what caused them. Not, hey that grow is up in smoke. Like screw you bro, my last grow went up in smoke into my lungs with the 20 plus thc and close to 2 percent terps. Probably better weed than you ever pulled in your life. Look, now I am becoming one of these assholes
Are you saying your last harvest is better than I ever pulled in my life? Or other people? Because the first one definitely isn't true.

You're asking questions about dry amendments in coco. You most likely won't get answers back that are helpful because everyone I know that's tried it has realized it's nothing but problems and has moved on to treating it as it's intended to be used, myself included.
 

UpInSmoke420$24

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So again, how did I end up with 3 different strains, 3 different phenos, all hit over 22 %, and end up with over a gram a watt? Doing exactly what I did. Yes I agree, its not the optimum way to grow if your looking for fast growth and quick turn arounds. But for someone that is busy and doesn't really have alot of time, it does work. I did it. Yes, veg took a little bit longer than usual (2 weeks more) but before I flipped into flower they all looked very good. And they were beautiful all threw flower. This is where I am lost.
 

Hollatchaboy

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I completely understand that. What I want to know. Is if everyone is sitting here and ragging on the way I grow, and I ask a question, no one anwsers...they just talk shit. Its crazy. And the shit they talk has not one piece of valuable info or facts. Like if there is deficiency in the pics...then what deficiency is it and why is it happening. Thats why im asking. That way I can try to come up with a way to fix it. Now like I said, I agree that the way I am doing it is not ideal in coco, but the thing is, I am having the exact same problems in soil. So I am trying to figure out what deficiencies there are and what caused them. Not, hey that grow is up in smoke. Like screw you bro, my last grow went up in smoke into my lungs with the 20 plus thc and close to 2 percent terps. Probably better weed than you ever pulled in your life. Look, now I am becoming one of these assholes
It sounds like you take things too personal. This is a cannabis forum, on the internet. Why put so much into people's opinions?

Everybody is reluctant to help, because it's probably at least the hundredth time, that they've heard about this same situation, and everytime, the outcome is the same.

I've not grown in coco, but I do grow in living soil, and I do dwc. I know that coco has a low cec, not the best for dry amendments. I believe it's why most use peat, when making soil, and not coco.

If you need help growing in soil, or dwc, hmu.
 
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