So... I tested my pH and TDS of my water! (NEED HELP⚠️)

ShawnSunshine

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Note - Every pH instrument has difficulty accurately measuring when there's almost no TDS in the water. That makes it difficult doesn't it? I use the solution in my bluelab just to be safe.
My TDS in my tap water is about the same as when I filter it with my Brita.

75-80 ppm

But my pH is 7.75 with Filtered Water , so the Brita is lowering my pH some.

Drinking water tastes good though!

I've been using that water on my primrose plants and now I have a peace Lily and they seem to be doing just fine.

But when I start growing my cannabis what do I need to know about the parts per million values that will come out of the soil on the runoff? And also my pH?

I'm going to assume that those are the better measurements to tell how your soil is doing is the runoff water?

I have a soil test kit too and a pH soil meter, I tried to get all of the things that I would need before I started planting.

I even got to meet thermometer so I could test my soil temperatures.☺
 

changarian

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What kind of calibration does it require ?
The storage solution keeps the electrodes accurate, there's 2 of them. Glass and platinum coated ceramic usually. Using water just causes them to need constant calibration, and takes forever for the readings to stabilize vs storage solution.

Storing dry is fine, just have to soak for 15 min before use, which is why we use storage solution for everyday use.

Purified water is not what you want to use in a PH meter, tap water would be better. Purified water is for TDS electrode storage.

Thank you for the help and information!
 

ShawnSunshine

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Thank you for the help and information!
Okay I have calibration packets that came with my meters but... What is the actual storage fluid?

Is that something that I can use on my meters or is that a specific meter?

Or could I just do the dry storage and then soak it for 15 minutes like you said?
 

Rurumo

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Brita filters, most pitcher type filters, use different ion exchange resins. It's very common for them to add ppms to your water-these resins also alter the PH depending on the type used, as you noticed. Britas are notorious for dumping aluminum back into your water if you use it for too long. It's better not to use them with plants. If your goal is to reduce chlorine/chloramine, you can use regular old ascorbic acid (vitamin C). I buy 1 lb bags of bulk ascorbic acid on amazon for about $12 and you just need a tiny bit per gallon, something like 30 mg. For a 5 gallon bucket, I use about 1/4 to 1/8 teaspoon, which is more than needed but doesn't hurt anything. If you want to dechlorinate a bathtub full of water, use 1 Teaspoon. Also, the best "organic" PH down is Citric Acid, which you can also buy in bulk on Amazon and it lasts forever. I've been using the same 2 lb bag for at least the last two years and I'm maybe halfway through it. How much to use depends on the alkalinity of your water, so you need to experiment, but I would start with a small amount-I'm guessing you'll probably need somewhere around 1/8 teaspoon or less for your water, as a starting point. Just play around with it and you'll figure out the right dosage. FYI the cheap PH and TDS pens can be wildly inaccurate, and if you get them wet, they're done for. You'll probably need to spend around $40 each for accurate mid range pens, and something like $80 each for Bluelab pens. PH test kits are a good choice to verify the accuracy of your pen and don't cost much. You can also check your TDS pen against a reference solution to see if it's accurate, or buy a bottle of distilled water and check it against that.
 

ShawnSunshine

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Brita filters, most pitcher type filters, use different ion exchange resins. It's very common for them to add ppms to your water-these resins also alter the PH depending on the type used, as you noticed. Britas are notorious for dumping aluminum back into your water if you use it for too long. It's better not to use them with plants. If your goal is to reduce chlorine/chloramine, you can use regular old ascorbic acid (vitamin C). I buy 1 lb bags of bulk ascorbic acid on amazon for about $12 and you just need a tiny bit per gallon, something like 30 mg. For a 5 gallon bucket, I use about 1/4 to 1/8 teaspoon, which is more than needed but doesn't hurt anything. If you want to dechlorinate a bathtub full of water, use 1 Teaspoon. Also, the best "organic" PH down is Citric Acid, which you can also buy in bulk on Amazon and it lasts forever. I've been using the same 2 lb bag for at least the last two years and I'm maybe halfway through it. How much to use depends on the alkalinity of your water, so you need to experiment, but I would start with a small amount-I'm guessing you'll probably need somewhere around 1/8 teaspoon or less for your water, as a starting point. Just play around with it and you'll figure out the right dosage. FYI the cheap PH and TDS pens can be wildly inaccurate, and if you get them wet, they're done for. You'll probably need to spend around $40 each for accurate mid range pens, and something like $80 each for Bluelab pens. PH test kits are a good choice to verify the accuracy of your pen and don't cost much. You can also check your TDS pen against a reference solution to see if it's accurate, or buy a bottle of distilled water and check it against that.
Actually I did do that with distilled water and bottled water... The TDS meter seems to be working just fine, and the pH meter is fine too they are brand new so hopefully they'll last a little while.

I like the idea of adding citric acid but instead of powders I'm going to go for lemon juice and lime juice because I have a lot of those anyways on a regular basis and I only have three (3 gallon pots) for cannabis right now anyways.☺

Definitely appreciate the reply!
 

DrOgkush

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First of all. Why are you worried about ph? Your in soil? That’s not your ball park to worry about. Once you start worrying about ph in soil. And working with adjusting. You will swing your media outta wack. Most pre mix soil have buffer. (I use Promix, but that has buffer as well). My water ph can be as low as 3.8. But you wouldn believe it when you saw my tent. Ph adjustments are more less for coco and straight hydro.

and do what you want with your pen. It’s gonna break in 6 months. Those cheapo pens are almost built to break. Im 1000% sure your pen isn water proof. Wait till your drop it to deep. You’ll see. But the best tds and ph pen you can get. Dive a lil deeper in them pockets. And you won’t regret it. Beats replacing them every 5-6 months.
 

DCcan

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..... Im 1000% sure your pen isn water proof. Wait till your drop it to deep. You’ll see. But the best tds and ph pen you can get. Dive a lil deeper in them pockets. And you won’t regret it. Beats replacing them every 5-6 months.
I don't misplace it, roll it on concrete or drop it any more. :eyesmoke:
They just hang above the buckets out of the way, pull down in the water and stay there

Mostly, its user error from being too stoned to hold on or remember where I put them, but definitely get waterproof meters.

 

ShawnSunshine

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First of all. Why are you worried about ph? Your in soil? That’s not your ball park to worry about. Once you start worrying about ph in soil. And working with adjusting. You will swing your media outta wack. Most pre mix soil have buffer. (I use Promix, but that has buffer as well). My water ph can be as low as 3.8. But you wouldn believe it when you saw my tent. Ph adjustments are more less for coco and straight hydro.

and do what you want with your pen. It’s gonna break in 6 months. Those cheapo pens are almost built to break. Im 1000% sure your pen isn water proof. Wait till your drop it to deep. You’ll see. But the best tds and ph pen you can get. Dive a lil deeper in them pockets. And you won’t regret it. Beats replacing them every 5-6 months.
I already dove pretty deep in my pockets with all the other stuff including my grow lights, but I understand your point.

Organic Supersoil is more important than pH in my scenario for sure. ☮
 

DrOgkush

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I already dove pretty deep in my pockets with all the other stuff including my grow lights, but I understand your point.

Organic Supersoil is more important than pH in my scenario for sure. ☮
Your over top watering ph doesn’t matter at all. Good luck !!
 
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