2022 elections. The steady march for sanity continues.

hanimmal

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I think they need to indict a high profile henchman. Getting a bit restless. Though donny running around being a crazy weirdo is the best thing the dems have going for them in terms of holding onto seats and such. It drives those moderates out of the rep party and can hopefully get people to the polls.

Idk, I think they would have a hard time getting a conviction anywhere other than NY. People are crazy, good luck not having a tainted juror pool, at least 1 of them is likely a piss drinker waiting for jfk to come back.
Do you mean other than Roger Stone, Bannon, Manafort, etc? Because they all got found guilty in a court of law, but then pardoned by Trump when the Republicans let him off on breaking our laws.

Everything restarted in the last year, so it is going to take some time unfortunately.

It will be hard for a cultist to 1. Hold their shit together long enough to answer some questions without doing stupid shit like interrupting while being questioned, and 2. not have outed themselves in social media by now. So while I am a bit worried, I think it is not too hard to find 12 people who are not brainwashed.
 

hanimmal

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Yikes.

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According to the former chair of the Michigan Democratic Party, a woman who became a star witness in her state for insisting the presidential election was stolen from Donald Trump -- and subsequently became an object of ridicule after Saturday Night Live mocked her unhinged rant -- has a decent shot at becoming a state lawmaker.

Melissa Carone, a contractor for Dominion Voting Systems, who ranted in a televised hearing on voter fraud that ballots were being smuggled in to be counted in food carts -- putting the number at over 100,000 -- is running for a seat representing Macomb County, which is such a deep red district that the Democrats have not even offered up a candidate.

That could help Carone if she survives a primary against multiple opponents, one of whom she is already calling a "traitor."

As Politico's Brittany Gibson reported, Carone became a national figure of fascination during her appearance accompanying Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani who felt compelled to reach over and try and reel her in as she tried to state her case about election fraud.

In one memorable exchange that went viral, she told Rep. Steven Johnson (R), "I know what I saw. And I signed something saying if I’m wrong, I can go to prison. Did you?”

After Carone testified, Dominion was forced to put out a statement saying she was “hired through a staffing agency for one day to clean glass on machines and complete other menial tasks.”

Attempting to quiet her, they also issued a cease and desist letter stating, "Without a shred of corroborating evidence, you have claimed that you witnessed several different versions of voter fraud — ranging from one story involving a van, to other accusations that votes were counted multiple times. You published these statements even though you knew all along that your attacks on Dominion have no basis in reality.”

As Politico is reporting she is using her notoriety to run for political office and could possibly be elected --without Trump's endorsement.

"The 35-year-old Carone has the support of other leading election deniers and provocateurs, including Rudy Giuliani and My Pillow Guy Mike Lindell, who claims to have spent $25 million promoting election fraud conspiracies since 2020," the report states before adding, "She also has the endorsement of the Macomb County Republican Party in her bid for a suburban Detroit-based, open state House seat. The Republican-oriented district voted forTrump in the last two presidential elections."

Political consultant Mark Brewer, who served as the head of the Democratic Party in Michigan suggested that no one count her out despite her history.

"A lot of the Republican base here, particularly in Macomb County, believes Trump should have been elected, the election was stolen, there should be an audit — I mean, the whole story. And that’ll be what Carone will play to," he explained. "A lot of Republican primary voters believe in the big lie … if she gets through a primary, she could win.”

In a hands-off statement on Carrone's chances, Gus Portela, the communications director for Michigan GOP claimed, "The Republican Party’s welcoming of any candidate and, of course, ultimately the voters decide what happens in the specific primaries. Look, we’re just excited as to the number of candidates that we’re seeing."

You can read more here.


 

hanimmal

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Election officials preparing for this year’s midterms have yet another security concern to add to an already long list that includes death threats, disinformation, ransomware and cyberattacks — threats from within.

In a handful of states, authorities are investigating whether local officials directed or aided in suspected security breaches at their own election offices. At least some have expressed doubt about the 2020 presidential election, and information gleaned from the breaches has surfaced in conspiracy theories pushed by allies of former President Donald Trump.

Adding to the concern is a wave of candidates for state and local election offices this year who parrot Trump’s false claims about his loss to Democrat Joe Biden.

“Putting them in positions of authority over elections is akin to putting arsonists in charge of a fire department,” said Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, a Democrat and former law school dean who serves as Michigan’s top elections official.

Experts say insider threats have always been a concern. But previously, the focus was mostly on what a volunteer poll worker or part-time employee could do to a polling place or county system, said Ryan Macias, who advises officials at the federal, state and local levels on election security. Now the potential harm extends to the very foundation of democracy — conducting fair elections.

“Since 2020, the coordinated efforts to have threat actors run for office, apply to be election officials and volunteer as a poll worker or observer should be treated as national security concerns,” Macias said.

The potential risks posed by insider attacks run from granting unauthorized access to sensitive information to planting malware within election systems.

While insider threats are the hardest to guard against, Macias said measures are in place to recover from an attack. Most of the country relies on paper ballots filled out by hand or with the use of a voting machine, so there should be a paper record of each ballot cast. In addition, post-election checks are designed to identify potential manipulation or discrepancies in the vote.

This year, voters in 25 states will elect their state’s chief election official, and several races feature candidates who dispute the outcome of the 2020 presidential contest despite no evidence of widespread fraud or a coordinated scheme to steal the election.

Some voters also will decide who will run their local elections as the next county clerk. It’s these local election offices that have experienced security breaches.

In Mesa County, Colorado, authorities are investigating whether unauthorized people were granted access to county voting equipment. State officials began investigating after the county’s voting system passwords appeared on a conservative website. Because each county has unique passwords maintained by the state, officials identified them as belonging to Mesa County, where Trump won nearly 63% of the vote.

Clerk Tina Peters — a Republican elected in 2018 — then appeared at a “cybersymposium” hosted by Trump ally Mike Lindell, the MyPillow CEO who has sought to prove that voting systems were somehow manipulated to favor Democrats.

At that event a copy of Mesa County’s election management system — which is used for designing ballots, configuring voting machines and tallying results — was distributed. Experts have described the unauthorized release as serious, potentially providing a “practice environment” to probe for vulnerabilities.

Peters, in an interview, said she made the copy of a county voting system hard drive to preserve “the evidence of how you get to the result of an election, who came in, who made changes, who did what.” She denied knowledge of how a copy came to be distributed at the Lindell event and would not say who was with her when the copy was made.

“I didn’t go in to try to address some conspiracy theory,” Peters told The Associated Press. “It’s just my responsibility to protect, and solely my responsibility to protect election records.”

A grand jury in Mesa County is reviewing the case. Meanwhile, Peters has announced plans to run for secretary of state, overseeing elections for Colorado.

Elsewhere in Colorado, state officials are investigating after the election clerk in Elbert County, southeast of Denver, indicated he made two copies of a voting system hard drive last summer.

An attorney for Dallas Schroeder said in a written response to the state that Schroeder believes he had a “statutory duty to preserve election records” and was concerned that a visit by state officials to prepare for the 2021 elections “might erase or alter electronic records of the November 2020 election.”

There has been no indication of widespread fraud or other major irregularities following the 2020 election in Colorado or elsewhere.

In Ohio, federal and state authorities are investigating after network data purportedly from the Lake County Board of Elections in suburban Cleveland was made available online along with other data by people seeking to show the 2020 election was somehow manipulated.

A state analysis determined the data wasn’t from the Board of Elections at all, but rather a network that runs other county business. Secretary of State Frank LaRose, a former Republican state lawmaker who serves as Ohio’s chief election official, said it showed only “innocuous traffic,” such as between a county computer and a printer, but was used to suggest something nefarious.

“They grabbed that and they said, ‘Oh, look, here’s evidence,’” LaRose said. “It was evidence of nothing, and they were nowhere close to the Board of Elections.”

In Michigan, the secretary of state’s office recently announced a potential security breach at an election office in Roscommon County, in the rural northern part of the state, where someone is suspected of gaining unauthorized access to voting systems. State authorities are investigating.

Experts said these types of security breaches have so far been few and most election officials are experienced, neutral professionals who follow the rules and want no part of conspiracy theories.

But, they said, any official found to be undermining elections and breaking the law must be held accountable. No charges have been brought so far in any of the breaches being investigated in Colorado, Ohio and Michigan.

“One of the keys to combatting insider threats is that there are consequences, and we haven’t seen that yet,” said Matt Masterson, a former top election security official during the Trump administration.

In advance of this year’s midterm elections, federal officials who oversee election security say they have conducted training with officials on ways they can limit access to voting systems to reduce the chances of an insider threat.

In Ohio, state election officials credited additional cybersecurity measures put in place in 2019 with preventing the attempted breach in Lake County, which Trump won in 2016 and 2020. A state order required that election-related systems be separated from county networks to better protect them.

In Michigan, Benson said her office is “keeping a close eye — closer than ever before” on local election officials and is prepared to stop anyone who tries to jeopardize election security.

In Colorado, Secretary of State Jena Griswold recently announced a set of temporary rules she said were designed to address “emerging security risks,” specifically citing the cases in Mesa and Elbert counties.

The new rules reduce the number of county employees with access to the election management system and require that they be identified in the county’s security plan filed with the state. Proof of background checks must be provided to the state for anyone present as voting systems are prepared for an election.

“Undoubtedly, we will see more insider threats to come,” said Griswold, a Democrat. “States have to prepare themselves.”
 

printer

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Trump tears into Biden as he moves toward 2024 campaign
Former President Donald Trump inched closer on Saturday to a 2024 comeback campaign, delivering a speech at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in which he hammered President Biden and congressional Democrats on everything from the conflict in Ukraine to their handling of the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

In a sprawling tirade that stretched for over an hour, Trump repeated his false claim that the 2020 presidential election was stolen from him and railed against what he described as an inefficient federal government obsessed with political correctness and dominated by weak leadership that failed to deter the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

“We are praying for the proud people of Ukraine. God bless them all,” Trump said to a doting audience in Orlando, Fla. “They are indeed brave. As everyone understands, this horrific disaster would never have happened if our elections were not rigged and if I was the president.”

His speech was billed by CPAC’s organizers as a chance for Trump to present his vision for the U.S. ahead of a potential 2024 presidential campaign, but the former president largely stuck to his typical talking points, including railing against so-called “woke” American culture and calling for the completion of his long-promised wall along the U.S.-Mexico border

In his address, Trump also tore into Democrats over coronavirus-related mandates and praised “certain Republican governors” for their handling of the pandemic, though he didn’t mention Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) by name, despite the DeSantis’s status as the face of conservative opposition to Covid-19 restrictions.

“I can tell you that the Republican governors did quite well, thank you,” Trump said. “The emergency is over and we will submit to this left wing tyranny no longer.”

Trump has repeatedly floated the notion of a 2024 comeback bid for the presidency, though it’s unclear if he’s made up his mind on a run. Still, he’s made clear that should he mount another bid for the White House, he believes he should be the presumptive GOP nominee.

“They’re going to find out the hard way starting Nov. 8 and even more so starting November 2024,” Trump said of Democrats' chances in the elections.

“We’re going to kick the Biden crime family out of the White House in 2024,” he said
 

xtsho

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If so I would think it is likely to come from a place of ignorance of the many candidates that are up for election.
Oh I know who's up for election and I think they all suck. 330 million people in the United States. You'd think we'd have better choices. I've thought about running for a seat on the Portland City Council or Multnomah County. But I can't play the games they play. Portlands loss though. The best typically stay out of politics.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Oh I know who's up for election and I think they all suck. 330 million people in the United States. You'd think we'd have better choices. I've thought about running for a seat on the Portland City Council or Multnomah County. But I can't play the games they play. Portlands loss though. The best typically stay out of politics.
There is an inevitable calculus of effect. It’s pretty much “vote A, vote B or have no effect”.
So that established, what is your recommended way forward?
 

hanimmal

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Oh I know who's up for election and I think they all suck. 330 million people in the United States. You'd think we'd have better choices.
I think it is pretty naive stance that is borderline trying to be edgy.

Here is another that candidate that I think has done a really great job and extremely well qualified.
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I've thought about running for a seat on the Portland City Council or Multnomah County. But I can't play the games they play. Portlands loss though. The best typically stay out of politics.
You should run, play the game your own way.

Plug your nose and choose bad over worse.
So edgy.
 
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