Flower 24 on 12 off

Horselover fat

Horselover fat

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Horselover fat said:
That's my thinking too. It's pretty easy to reach highest reasonable DLI in 12 hours. Does it make sense to drop light levels and have longer days? Dunno. Probably not.
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That said I'm all for trying shit out. What we do is not natural. At all. We are not trying to reproduce nature. The plant is a bunch of chemical reactions. It has no will. It has no plan. Only chemical reactions. Adjust materials and conditions in your chemical reaction and you get a different end product. There is definitely room for hacking the plants.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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F_T_P! said:
This will be control pic taken at day 34, two days into the 24/12 cycle. I will post another pic at day 41, which would be 9 days of 24/12. I guess we will see what happens.
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The plant is already 34 days into flowering. You need to do a side by side with plant taken from veg and then put into flower. One side 24/12 and the other 12/12. Starting 34 days into flowering isn't going to prove anything. That plants are already well into flowering.


"Most likely safe to assume that my 24/12 cycle will NOT flower plants... "

flowering 24/12

Got some 5 week old feminized plants that were just put into flower. Ive wondered if i maintained 12 hours of darkness, if i cud increase the lights on period. Well i already had a bunch of 7-day timers and set em up so lights are on 24 hrs then off 12 except sat and sun which are 12/12 (so that...
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ttystikk

ttystikk

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I keep running across people who swear by SHORT days and long nights, so as little as 8 hours on and 16 hours of darkness. They say they don't lose much yield but they sure like the power bill.

I think that direction might offer more interesting results, if you're willing to experiment.
 
mudballs

mudballs

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Just thought of another test @F_T_P!
veg 24hrs on, then after sexing start reducing the hours to 23, then to 22, then to 21, then to 20...see if it starts flowering. If it does ur slamming light into that sucker beyond what she was designed to do but staying in flower cuz of nights getting longer.
Wonder if i just dominated mother nature? Any guesses?
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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ttystikk said:
I keep running across people who swear by SHORT days and long nights, so as little as 8 hours on and 16 hours of darkness. They say they don't lose much yield but they sure like the power bill.

I think that direction might offer more interesting results, if you're willing to experiment.
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They likely have very high intensity lighting and CO2, so they can still get away with it by having enough DLI.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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mudballs said:
Just thought of another test @F_T_P!
veg 24hrs on, then after sexing start reducing the hours to 23, then to 22, then to 21, then to 20...see if it starts flowering. If it does ur slamming light into that sucker beyond what she was designed to do but staying in flower cuz of nights getting longer.
Wonder if i just dominated mother nature? Any guesses?
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I think the big issue is escaping the 24-hr circadian rhythm which all life forms have evolved with over thousands of years.
 
mudballs

mudballs

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PJ Diaz said:
I think the big issue is escaping the 24-hr circadian rhythm which all life forms have evolved with over thousands of years.
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It's still a train that can't get off the track. I think the inflorescence trigger system is not overridden by circadian.
 
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Livingblacksoil

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Remember when Goldblum said '...they forgot to ask if they should'.

Greed.

It's not fast enough, it's not big enough, it's not good enough. I'ma figure out how to get more faster because my mom told me a story about a lil choo choo train.

It does have a plan dumbass, it's in the word plant.

These guys are members of the newest religion sweeping adult swim. Don't believe the hype. You ain't smart. Just greedy.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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Livingblacksoil said:
Remember when Goldblum said '...they forgot to ask if they should'.

Greed.

It's not fast enough, it's not big enough, it's not good enough. I'ma figure out how to get more faster because my mom told me a story about a lil choo choo train.

It does have a plan dumbass, it's in the word plant.

These guys are members of the newest religion sweeping adult swim. Don't believe the hype. You ain't smart. Just greedy.
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Yeah, we should just throw a seed in the dirt, walk away, and come back a few months later to the best crop ever. Why bother with the rest. We're just messing up the plan. t
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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mudballs said:
You think it wont flower until less than 14hrs or thereabouts?
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That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that I think daily cycles, outside of 24-hours, will confuse the plant. I think 14/10 would be fine for the right cultivars, and especially with far red end of day treatment.
 
mudballs

mudballs

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Oh yeah far red...always forget about that. This thing is such a fun complicated puzzle. I read you can do some weird pulse with far red and it instantly reverses some cycle with day/night. Idk i cant keep track of all the technicals anymore honestly.
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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mudballs said:
Oh yeah far red...always forget about that. This thing is such a fun complicated puzzle. I read you can do some weird pulse with far red and it instantly reverses some cycle with day/night. Idk i cant keep track of all the technicals anymore honestly.
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The specific interval is debatable. I start my far red about 5 minutes before main lights off, and the keep far red on for 10 minutes after dark. I'm running 12/12.
 
mudballs

mudballs

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Idk the guy intrigued me, he's super into it, thought he could try that for us too. Maybe the plant can be driven more than we are aware of. Im lazy af grower i have evidence of that, i hired the sun to come out every day.
 
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